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03 Nov 03 - 06:58 PM (#1047155) Subject: BS: Terrorist Training Camp In Georgia? From: Bobert Hmmmmm, could it be? A terrorist training camp right here in America? Well, seems that the "School of the Amercias" in Ft Benning, Ga. has been turning out terrorist for a couple of decades. Their graduates have been responsible for killing tens upon thousands of Latin Americans, mostly poor. They have tortured women and children. They have raped and killed without regard. Just a few notable graduates: Manuel Noriega and Omar Torries of Panama, Leopolda Galtieri and Roberto Violo of Argentina, Juan Velosco Alvaeado of Peru, Guillermo Rodriguez of Ecuador and Hugo Suarez of Boliva... Any one of these guys would give Saddam Hussain a run fir his money when it comes to thuggery, assasination and down right mean spiritness... Your tax dollars at work!!! In 2001 the House of Reps came within 10 votes of not only shutting down this terrorist training camp but also calling for an investigation on what its garduates go on to do to their neighbors once they learn how to really mess with folks... Way past time for the US to get out of game of terrorism and start fighting it rather than conducting the "War on Terrorism" PR stunt! Bobert |
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03 Nov 03 - 10:44 PM (#1047339) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist Training Camp In Georgia? From: Bobert Jus' thought I'd keep this one fresh... Some purdy important stuff going on that folks should be concerned about... Me again... |
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04 Nov 03 - 12:04 AM (#1047374) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist Training Camp In Georgia? From: GUEST,pdc I think you should Google it, Bobert. It seems to me that it was either shut down or changed some time ago. Got a link? |
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04 Nov 03 - 02:08 AM (#1047430) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist Training Camp In Georgia? From: Metchosin also Bobert, those guys aren't terrorists, they were trained to maintain American interests and uphold and extend the Munroe Doctrine. |
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04 Nov 03 - 02:41 AM (#1047437) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist Training Camp In Georgia? From: Joe Offer This thread says a U.S. Army school trains terrorists. This thread (Terrorstis kill 18,000 in USA every year) calls Americans terrorists for failing to provide health insurance. I believe it is a shame that the U.S. does not provide adequate health care to its citizens, and that it operates a training center for soldiers supporting questionable regimes. However, I think that the way to improve these situations is to use reason and solid facts, not escalated rhetoric. If you bury your cause in exaggerated rhetoric, you'll lose. Some people tend to argue their causes to the point where they become ridiculous. That makes it hard for the rest of us to support them - even when we agree with them. -Joe Offer- |
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04 Nov 03 - 05:07 AM (#1047493) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist Training Camp In Georgia? From: Hrothgar I am a freedom fighter. You are a partisan. He is a terrorist. |
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04 Nov 03 - 06:34 AM (#1047531) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist Training Camp In Georgia? From: McGrath of Harlow Using the term "terrorist" to describe a health systemn that kills people is indeed rhetoric. But using the word to describe people who have been responsible for massacres and torture is not, because that's what terrorism means, whoever does it. "Terrorism" isn't about whether you are properly described as a regular soldier or a police officer or a partisan or a freedom fighter. It is about what you actually do. A terrorist is someone who is responsible for acts of terrorism, not someone who belongs to a particular type of organisation. ... Strictly speaking, Bobert, there is no "School of the Americas". In 2001 it ceased to exist. In its place was set up the "Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation", which is still doing exactly the same thing, usingbthe same buildings. Here is their sanitised home page. describedThis includes various interesting links, including one to this archived School of the Americas site. Including a speech headlined "The School that Will Never Die" explaining about the change of name. It also includes a lot of stuff that bears reading, such as a case study of the My Lai Massacre. Also a discussion of the criteria for a just war. (Under which it seems pretty clear that the war on Iraq would not fall within the definition of a just war supposedly accepted by the army: "Preemptive attack is also considered morally justified, if the case can be made that such an attack prevented an imminent aggression, and if other criteria can be satisfied. Military force can also be used to rescue nationals in danger in other countries, and to prevent or deter terrorist acts. However the ethics of war – as well as legal custom – do not permit attacking terrorists for purposes of punishment/retaliation." |
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04 Nov 03 - 06:36 AM (#1047534) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist Training Camp In Georgia? From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar My understanding from something I read a few months ago was that it was not closed down, just re-branded. |
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04 Nov 03 - 06:59 AM (#1047545) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist Training Camp In Georgia? From: An Pluiméir Ceolmhar Cross-post. Not for the first time, McG got in first to say what I meant to say, only better. |
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04 Nov 03 - 08:00 AM (#1047567) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist Training Camp In Georgia? From: Greg F. There's yet another one in Georgia, Bobert, featuring "Freedom Rallys" run by the Boy Scouts starring folks like convicted felon Ollie North. CLICK HERE AND HERE |
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04 Nov 03 - 08:30 AM (#1047577) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist Training Camp In Georgia? From: Bobert Thanks, McGrath and Greg F. Fir the Blue Clickies. Certainly sheds a new light on just how rediculous Bush's PR stunt (War on Terrorism) is... And how down right hypocritical... Bobert |