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09 Nov 03 - 01:28 PM (#1050683) Subject: Lyr Req: John Goodluck's Robin Hood and the Fifte From: GUEST,Roberto I'd like to get the text of this ballad as sung by John Goodluck on The Suffolk Miracle, slightly different from the text in Child. I'm trying to get the words, but I'm not sure of too many verses. Can somebody help? THank you. Roberto |
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09 Nov 03 - 01:30 PM (#1050684) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: John Goodluck's Robin Hood and the Fifte From: GUEST,Roberto The ballad is: Robin Hood and the Fifteen Foresters (number 139 in Child, as Robin Hood's Progress to Nottingham). Roberto |
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10 Nov 03 - 09:29 AM (#1051043) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: John Goodluck's Robin Hood and the Fifte From: GUEST,MMario Bronson has the following text in 'The Singing Tradition of Child's Popular Ballads" Source:Creighton (1933) As Sung by Ben Henneberry Robin Hood he bent his noble good bow And his broad arrow let fly, Till fourteen of those fifteen foresters Dead on the Ground did lie. hi down, hi derrry derry down Ten men they came from brave Nottingame To take up Robin Hood, Some lost arms and some lost legs And more they lost their blood. hi down, hi derrry derry down Ten men they came from brave Nottingham To Take up robin Hood, but he picked up his noble good bow And he's off the the merry Greenwood, hi down, hi derrry derry down will post tune in a bit. |
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10 Nov 03 - 10:00 AM (#1051059) Subject: Tune Add: ROBIN HOOD'S PROGRESS TO NOTTINGHAM From: GUEST,MMario X:1 T:Robin Hood's Progress to Nottingham C:Bronson 139.1 N:Creighton 1933 N:from the singing of Ben Henneberry I:abc2nwc M:6/8 L:1/8 K:G z4zG/2 G/2|B2c d2B|A B B G2"^|"d/2 d/2| g3f/2 d/2 e/2|d3z2"^|"d|g2g e f g|d d B A G "^| "A|B2c c B A|A2"^|"G d2e|d c2A B2|G3z3|] |
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10 Nov 03 - 11:10 AM (#1051091) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: John Goodluck's Robin Hood and the Fifte From: Malcolm Douglas Mr Henneberry lived on Devil's Island. Helen Creighton, Songs and Ballads from Nova Scotia, J. M. Dent & Sons, Vancouver & Toronto, 1932: repr. Dover, New York, 1966: pp. 15-16. Several broadside editions can be seen at Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads. The 17th century copies were the basis of Child's text. Robin Hoods progresse to Nottingham The title had changed by the late 18th/early 19th century, but the text remained virtually the same: Robin Hood and the fifteen foresters In what is probably the earliest printing here (Fran. Grove, London), it will be seen that the foresters were drinking bear. Perhaps they had come over from Hull for the weekend. |
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10 Nov 03 - 12:10 PM (#1051122) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: John Goodluck's Robin Hood and the Fifte From: GUEST Thank you, MMario and Malcolm Douglas, but what I'm looking for is the text as sung by John Goodluck. The only chance is that someone, who owns the LP (or the CD, that is now available), would have the time and will to listen to it and write down the words. If no one will do that, I'll try to post my transcription. Thank you. Roberto |
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11 Nov 03 - 03:07 AM (#1051495) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: John Goodluck's Robin Hood and the Fifte From: GUEST,longarm Anyone know what happened to John Goodluck? Last I knew of him was that he had gone over to the dark side(got a job as an insurance agent! with lots of money!) Woudn't mind catching up with him. Havn't seen him since I buggered off to Oz 13 years ago. Pete Proctor(formely of Rough Justice) |
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12 Nov 03 - 03:04 AM (#1052181) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: John Goodluck's Robin Hood and the Fifte From: GUEST,Roberto I've recently bought his previous recordings, now on CD, by him, through his site: www.john.goodluck.btinternet.co.uk. Roberto |
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12 Nov 03 - 10:27 AM (#1052420) Subject: Lyr Add: ROBIN HOOD AND THE FIFTEEN FORESTERS From: GUEST,Roberto I've got the text from John Goodluck in person. Here it is: ROBIN HOOD AND THE FIFTEEN FORESTERS John Goodluck, The Suffolk Miracle Robin Hood said he would go to fair Nottingham With the General for to dine There he was aware of the Fifteen Foresters All a drinking of ale and of wine What news, what news ? - said the bold Robin Hood What news fain woulds't thou know? Our King has arranged of a shooting match And I'm ready all with my bow Well we hold it in scorn - said the Fifteen Foresters That ever a boy so young Should own him a bow before our King Not able to pull on the string Well I'll wager twenty marks - said the bold Robin Hood By the leave of Our Lady That I hit the mark at one hundred rod And cause the hart to die Well we all lay twenty marks - said the Fifteen Foresters By the leave of Our Lady That thou hittest not the mark at one hundred rod Nor cause the hart to bleed So Robin then he turned and he took up his bow With his broad arrows he let fly He hit the mark at one hundred rod And caused the hart for to die Well the hart did skip and the hart did leap And the hart fell to the ground That wager it is mine - said the bold Robin Hood How I wish it were a thousand pounds Well the wager is not thine - said the Fifteen Foresters Thou appealest all in haste Take up thy bow and get thee gone Lest we thy side abase' So Robin then he took up his noble good bow With his broad arrows all amain And Robin he has stalled and began to laugh As he wandered across the plain Then he turned him about and he took up his bow With his broad arrows he let fly Till fourteen of those Fifteen Foresters All on the cold ground they did lie Now the one who did the quarrel fist begin He went running all over the plain So Robin he has taken up his noble good bow And he's fetched him back again Well you said I was no archer - said the bold Robin Hood So say so now again With that he's sent another arrow forth Which split his head in twain Well you found me an archer - said the bold Robin Hood Who will make your lives to ring And you wish you had not spoken the word That I would not pull the string' And all the people in fair Nottingham Came running out amain Supposing to have taken the bold Robin Hood With the Foresters who were slain Well some lost arms and some lost legs And some did lose their blood Robin he has taken his noble good bow And he's gone to the merry green wood They've taken those Foresters to fair Nottingham Where many there did'st know They've taken them to their own church yard Where they've buried them all in a row |
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12 Nov 03 - 10:33 AM (#1052427) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: John Goodluck's Robin Hood and the Fifte From: GUEST,MMario Thanks for posting! |
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16 Mar 12 - 03:14 PM (#3323798) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Robin Hood and the Fifteen Foresters From: The Sandman i might point out that this song is on PADDY BUTCHER CD open ground available from paddy butcher, homewood cross street elmswell suffolk ip309dr, john goodluck learned some of his repertoire from paddy butcher.They werebothin a band called TRUNKLES Paddy credits it as from the Dransfields. |
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17 Mar 12 - 01:24 AM (#3323984) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Robin Hood and the Fifteen Foresters From: MGM·Lion You will find me singing it on my youtube channel, http://www.youtube.com/user/mgmyer ~M~ |
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17 Mar 12 - 06:13 AM (#3324021) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Robin Hood and the Fifteen Foresters From: The Sandman yes, ive listened, thanks mike. |
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17 Mar 12 - 06:40 AM (#3324030) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Robin Hood and the Fifteen Foresters From: MGM·Lion Thanks to you, Dick. For possible interest, I include, as a spoken intro, the rather odd four lines preceding the version printed in Child, about RH being 15 at the time of the incident. Whether [it only now occurs to me to wonder] we are to read any sort of symbolism into his having defeated one adversary for every year of his age, I am not sure. ~M~ |
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17 Mar 12 - 09:28 AM (#3324092) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Robin Hood and the Fifteen Foresters From: Lighter That's what they said about Billy the Kid: twenty-one years, twenty-one notches. |
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17 Mar 12 - 03:50 PM (#3324254) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Robin Hood and the Fifteen Foresters From: Anglo I thought I'd heard somewhere that Colin Cater was responsible for that arrangement. Though it does sound Dransfieldy. |
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17 Mar 12 - 04:20 PM (#3324266) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Robin Hood and the Fifteen Foresters From: theleveller I haven't sung this in years. I think it was Robin Dransfield who taught it to me, back in maybe 1965-6 |
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18 Mar 12 - 05:22 AM (#3324405) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Robin Hood and the Fifteen Foresters From: breezy Heard this sung in Catford early 1970 ish at the Rising Sun by a visiting floor singer. It was very well performed but I dont by know who. He wasnt a Dransfield. very precise guitar work too Any ideas on who it might have been? I dont think he ever visited the club again |
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18 Mar 12 - 05:35 AM (#3324411) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Robin Hood and the Fifteen Foresters From: The Sandman that visiting singer was paddy butcher who now lives in elmswell suffolk , he has recorded it on his new cd open ground , he can be contacted on face book. colin cater had nothing to do with the arrangement as far as i know it was the dransfields |
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18 Mar 12 - 05:38 PM (#3324789) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Robin Hood and the Fifteen Foresters From: GUEST Woody Wood The song was performed around the clubs in the mid 60's by Barry Dransfield. It was just superb. |
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11 Mar 13 - 04:41 PM (#3489272) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Robin Hood and the Fifteen Foresters From: GUEST,from Bards 0f the Heath try www.johngoodluck.webs.com for the music & words |
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05 Jan 19 - 03:23 PM (#3969999) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Robin Hood and the Fifteen Foresters From: The Sandman JOHN GOODLUCK learned it from PADDY BUTCHER |
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06 Jan 19 - 03:56 PM (#3970151) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Robin Hood and the Fifteen Foresters From: Lighter A nice performance by Ed McCurdy in 1957: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWI1k5RFczs I haven't investigated its source(s) or possible resemblance to Butcher/Goodluck. |