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18 Nov 03 - 11:48 AM (#1056268) Subject: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable From: GUEST,cookiless Lyndi-Loo I have been asked by a colleague if I can get English language (or Latin) names for the the following vegetables, which I believe are Asian. I know you are a knowledgable lot out there and I'm sure someone can help. The vegetables are Orara, Krala, Kurdo, Kinda, Raiya. I also had Methi, but I know know that's Fenugreek Thanks |
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18 Nov 03 - 12:21 PM (#1056303) Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable From: John MacKenzie Raita is an Indian dish containing cucumber, this may be the same as Raiya. Giok |
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18 Nov 03 - 01:11 PM (#1056345) Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable From: GUEST,MMario given the "methi" - I've searched quite a few glossaries and cannot find any of the above words - I *did* find quite a few ingredients in languages where "methi"= fenugreek that the words could be corruptions of (Did this list come from a printed source or verbally or what?) for example - I could see 'karela' (bitter gourd) being heard as 'krala' |
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18 Nov 03 - 01:13 PM (#1056347) Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable From: TheBigPinkLad What is the original language? |
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18 Nov 03 - 01:49 PM (#1056379) Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable From: Sorcha Orara is broomrape (http://pi.cdfa.ca.gov/weedinfo/OROBANCH2.html) Krala-Mee Krala (Lukewarm) 6.25 Soft rice noodle seasoned in special soy sauce, browned garlic and topped with hard boiled eggs, crushed peanuts, dried shrimp and peanut sauce. Kerala-vegetable stew from south India Kinda-not found Raiya-bet this is raisa, plain yogurt with a chopped veg like spinach or cucumber in it. I asked Google....orig. lang is probably Hindi. |
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18 Nov 03 - 01:51 PM (#1056380) Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable From: GUEST,cookieless Lyndi-loo Not sure of the language. I think it may be Hindi, but could equally be Urdu or any of the others. MMario I take your point about corruptions as these languages don't use Latin script they could very well be approximate spellings. Tricky isn't it? |
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18 Nov 03 - 01:53 PM (#1056382) Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable From: GUEST Thanks guys. I hear the sitars and I'm drooling at the smell of the spices! |
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18 Nov 03 - 04:36 PM (#1056477) Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable From: McGrath of Harlow Urdu and Hindi are essentially the same language (Urdu is the Pakistan version, Hindi the Indian, and they are written in different scriopts) - but if these are dishes from Kerala, the language would probably be Malayalam |
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19 Nov 03 - 10:51 AM (#1056993) Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable From: Dave Bryant Methi is specifically Fenugreek leaves as distinct from the seeds. It adds a lovely sort of caramel flavour to curries - especially dhansaks and other dishes containing lentils (dhal). |
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19 Nov 03 - 10:53 AM (#1056994) Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable From: GUEST,MMario Lyndi - if you get the answers post back, won't you? I'm curious... |
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19 Nov 03 - 05:12 PM (#1057235) Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable From: Bill D here is a page which discusses Indian vegetables and here is one more search was in AlltheWeb.. "india vegetables methi" |
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20 Nov 03 - 12:37 PM (#1057863) Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable From: Geoff the Duck One thing to bear in mind is that when Indians or Pakistanis write the names they use for vegetables, there is often NOT a standard English version of the spelling of the Urdu (or whichever other language or dialect they use). The same goes for culinary dishes, the same "meal" is spelled differently in every curry house you eat in (e.g. Korma /Kurma ). Until somebody takes the anglicised spellings of non-english vegetables and puts them in a dictionary, everyone will have to continue to invent their own spelling of how the pronounce the vegetable. Quack! GtD. |
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20 Nov 03 - 03:08 PM (#1057975) Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable From: Sorcha MMario, didn't I post all but one???? |
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20 Nov 03 - 03:21 PM (#1057979) Subject: RE: BS: Help! Exotic vegetable From: GUEST,MMario |