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20 Nov 03 - 08:35 AM (#1057708) Subject: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen From: Jerry Rasmussen So, tell me how yodeling went from Leiderhosen in the Swiss Alps to ten gallon hats and chaps on the great plains... Jerry |
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20 Nov 03 - 11:20 AM (#1057812) Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen From: GUEST,pdq Much of Texas was settled by Germans. |
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20 Nov 03 - 01:38 PM (#1057912) Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen From: mack/misophist Not to mention much of Pennsylvania. And much of Missoura. It's as American as apple strudel. |
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20 Nov 03 - 03:32 PM (#1057985) Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen From: Joe Offer Same things goes for the German influence on music in Mexico - the Germans didn't settle only in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Their influence comes up in interesting places. -Joe Offer, German/French/Irish- |
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20 Nov 03 - 03:34 PM (#1057988) Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen From: GUEST,MMario could have something to do with the open distances.... still trying to recover from the mental image of ten gallon leiderhosen. gurk! |
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20 Nov 03 - 03:57 PM (#1058002) Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen From: GUEST,pdq Worst part is ya can't get a good echo off of sagebrush or cholla cactus! |
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20 Nov 03 - 04:26 PM (#1058021) Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen From: Jerry Rasmussen Ya learn something new every day. I grew up in southern Wisconsin and wished it was impossible to yodel. I didn't realize that many Germans settled in Texas. Sure don't look like Germany down there.. Jerry |
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20 Nov 03 - 04:47 PM (#1058033) Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen From: Joybell There were very popular touring, yodeling, European singers in the 19th century. I have the names of a few somewhere. There are pictures in some of the 19th century sheet music data bases. Someone quicker than me will probably find them. |
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20 Nov 03 - 04:55 PM (#1058039) Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen From: GUEST,pdq Jerry...Go visit New Braunfels in central Texas if you ever get the chance...looks like a European village to this day. |
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20 Nov 03 - 05:08 PM (#1058051) Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen From: Uncle_DaveO It's Lederhosen, not "leiderhosen". No "i" in the word. "Leder" means "leather; hosen is "pants", more or less. Dave Oesterreich |
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20 Nov 03 - 05:21 PM (#1058056) Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen From: GUEST,pdq "as someone once remarked to Shubert 'take me to your lieder' "... |
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20 Nov 03 - 05:27 PM (#1058060) Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen From: Q (Frank Staplin) Jerry, as a student years ago in Austin, we used to sit in the beer garten outside Saangerrunde (sp?) Hall and listen to the local Sangerbund (Texas State group united nine districts in 1853, one extending to the Mexican border). German is still heard in New Braunfels, Fredericksburg, and other towns. The major colony in central Texas was brought in under the auspices of Prince Carl von Solms-Braunfels starting in the 1840s. These were not poor immigrants; they had money and experts in geology and agriculture. Most came in the 1850s and just after the Civil War. Their descendants were and are still important in Texas. There was a German-English school in San Antonio and German and English were taught together at a number of schools in Central Texas (at least as late as the 1950s to my knowledge). The Turnverein Movement had established in Galveston, Houston, San Antonio and New Braunfels and other towns and cities in the 1850s, some chapters are still operating. |
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20 Nov 03 - 05:42 PM (#1058067) Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen From: GUEST,pdq Here are some fine yodelers. Don't see a pattern in home states and none is from Texas (although Don Edwards lives there now, he was born in New Jersey!). Wilf Carter aka "Montana Slim" - Graysboro, Nova Scotia (CAN) Douglas B. Green aka "Ranger Doug" - Great Lakes, Illinois Jimmie Rodgers aka "The Singing Brakeman" - Meridian, MS Don Edwards - Boonton, New Jersey |
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24 Nov 03 - 07:37 AM (#1059807) Subject: RE: Ten Gallon Leiderhosen From: Wolfgang Since Dave has mentioned it.... 'Leiderhosen' made me smile for the unplanned sense I could read in it: 'sorry trousers/pants'. I know some Germans who would agree that actually Leiderhosen is the better word for this article of clothing. Wolfgang |