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05 Dec 03 - 02:52 AM (#1065867) Subject: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: GUEST,Leslie Butler Sean Canon has a nice lyrical tune to a version of the Wild Rover that goes (chorus)
And I never never shall play the wild rover no more. Thanks in advance |
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05 Dec 03 - 03:28 AM (#1065879) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: DG&D Dave I heard the version, I think you're refering to with a slightly different chorus: Wild roving I'll give-over, Wild roving I'll give-o're And it's ne're will I play the wild rover no more. The verses are exactly the same as the God-Awful 'No! Nae! Never!' version, and the tune is much more lilting. Dave. |
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05 Dec 03 - 03:35 AM (#1065880) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: Malcolm Douglas Sean recorded that on his first (I think it was), The Roving Journey Man (Cottage Records, Cot 411, 1977); I don't know if it has ever been re-issued. He said he got it from Donal McGuire. The Scottish band Kentigern recorded a similar set a couple of years later (Kentigern, Topic 12TS394, 1979), in their case learned from "Glasgow fiddler Willie Beaton". A text much like Sean's was posted here five years ago, at THE WILD ROVER; in that case from Gerry Cullen, who had it from Mary-Ann Carolan. The song is closer in that form to the way it used to be sung before either the Clanceys or the Dubliners -I forget which- learned Sam Larner's Norfolk set from Ewan MacColl, and recorded it as a speeded-up drinking song, starting its decent into a (financially rewarding) but crass football-chant. |
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05 Dec 03 - 05:24 AM (#1065931) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: GUEST,Martin Ryan Malcolm Luke Kelly of the Dubliners, via Ewan mcColl, as far as I know. Regards p.s. As part of their Irish Studies course, I give an illustrated talk on Irish Song to the non-Irish students in the college where I work. I start off with the Dubliners version - which they all recognise. By the end of the talk they're not surprised to find that far from being an Irish drinking song, its a non-Irish non-drinking song! |
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05 Dec 03 - 05:29 AM (#1065933) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: McGrath of Harlow In fact it's a temperance song, if you ever listen to the words. |
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05 Dec 03 - 06:28 AM (#1065953) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: GUEST,Martin Ryan Yes, McGrath - my point exactly. Regards |
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05 Dec 03 - 09:07 AM (#1066037) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: GUEST,Leslie Butler Thanks, all! |
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05 Dec 03 - 11:50 AM (#1066126) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: radriano Leslie, if you want the melody to the alternate version of "Wild Rover" I'll be happy to send you a cd of it. I used to sing that version with my former band. A few years ago I put together a cd of excerpts of live concert performances we did. Send me a PM with your address and I'll send you a Christmas present. Radriano |
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05 Dec 03 - 02:38 PM (#1066212) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: nutty If anyone is interested .... a very different (Scottish?) version is shown on this Bodleian Broadside Click Here Unfortunately no date is given. |
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05 Dec 03 - 04:52 PM (#1066276) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: Malcolm Douglas Yes, that is a different twist to the usual story. There are a number of broadside editions at the Bodleian Library, with some variation between them; most have a chorus and the earliest dated examples are of the first part of the nineteenth century: Wild Rover It was also printed in American songsters of the mid C19, and seems to have been found in tradition mainly in England and Australia, but also in Canada, the USA, Scotland and Ireland. Number 1173 in the Roud Folk Song Index. It has been suggested that it may have been based on The Green Bed; I don't know about that, but it's certainly the case that there were a good few songs made using the same basic motifs. |
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05 Dec 03 - 05:57 PM (#1066333) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: GUEST,ClaireBear My late and lamented band, Cyderman's Fancy, released a version of this song on cassette about 20 years ago. It was what we laughingly call "my big hit" because there was a radio station in Fresno, California that got hold of the tape and gave it significant airplay -- but outside of Fresno, nobody ever heard it. The song was was in minor and rather slow -- but, I hasten to add, this was before converting things to minor and doing them slowly was trendy, so it was ok. I quite liked it, actually. (Did your lot learn your version from us, Radriano? Or is it a different one?) I learned it from a breathtakingly beautiful Kentigern recording of it (on an eponymous LP from, I think, 1976). Claire |
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05 Dec 03 - 07:11 PM (#1066388) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: radriano The version of "Wild Rover" I sing comes from a private tape made by a friend of mine at a concert at the Cecil Sharp House in England back in, I think, the late 1970s. There is no infomation given on the cassette but I'm pretty sure the singer was Sean Corcoran. |
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05 Dec 03 - 07:39 PM (#1066413) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice o From: The Borchester Echo Andy Turner of the quintessentially English band Magpie Lane sings a most beautiful version of The Wild Rover. He says he put off learning the song for years so that he could always reply truthfully to requests at sessions that he didn't know it, Then he found this version. I don't know his source, but I should imagine the Bodleian since the band is based in Oxford. |
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06 Dec 03 - 04:47 AM (#1066588) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: GUEST,Martin Ryan Radriano Very likely that it was Sean Corcoran - he collected it from Mrs. Carolan. Was also a member of the Press Gang, of course. Regards |
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23 Feb 06 - 12:28 PM (#1676914) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: Mallaidh Yes, yes, yes, all very interesting but where can I get a full set of the words. Pleeeeze! |
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23 Feb 06 - 01:31 PM (#1676950) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: Little Robyn Just click on any of those blue clickies from Malcolm Douglas - I've just been reading lots of slightly different words that are in the Bodleian. Fascinating! Robyn |
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24 Feb 06 - 01:33 AM (#1677403) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: Big Al Whittle what's the matter with these people. haven't they heard the Clover margarine advert - don't they know how it goes? |
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24 Feb 06 - 04:26 AM (#1677457) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice o From: John MacKenzie What is the one with the chorus that goes Wild Rover give over Wild Rover no more And I never will play the Wild Rover no more. I have the tune in my head to those few words but can't remember any more of it. Giok |
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24 Feb 06 - 04:45 AM (#1677465) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: GUEST There's a version on the Dransfield's "Lord of All I Behold." |
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24 Feb 06 - 10:07 AM (#1677696) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wild Rover - not that one, the nice one From: Windsinger Aww, the "other" one IS nice. :) Especially if Seamus does it. Slán, ~Fionn www.geocities.com/children_of_lir |
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