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29 Dec 03 - 04:01 AM (#1081376) Subject: Lyr Add: Valley Forge From: kendall Valley Forge is in the dt, but there is a verse missing. It is: They talk about freedom all night and all day But my ears are froze up I can't hear what they say, They give out such a line about the land of the free But the way things are going, that's a place I wont see. etc. |
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29 Dec 03 - 08:11 PM (#1081969) Subject: Add Version: Valley Forge (Bob Coltman) From: Joe Offer I don't have the booklet for Joe Hickerson's Drive Dull Care Away, so I don't know anything about the background of this song. Here's how I hear the song - a bit different from what's in the DT. Can anybody give us background information on the song? When was it written? Anybody got a tune I can post? I knew nothing about Bob coltman, but I see I know a number of his songs. His recordings are apparently available from Minstrel Records. This Google Search will bring up all sorts of good information about Bob. -Joe Offer- VALLEY FORGE^^^ (Bob Coltman) We come down here with our boots on our feet But we lost them somewhere in the snow and the sleet Pennsylvania winters are some kind of cold What's left of the body can't comfort your soul So, don't you think we should beat the drum Or raise some kind of row Ain't this glorious war Fell on hard times now Don't shake old Charlie, for he's past shaking Takes angels on high to wake his kind of bacon Haul out the meat wagon and horses to pull We've got dead enough here to fill it up full When generals die, as I've heard they do The angels line up just to pull them on through But when privates die, you know good and well They get to go straight from Valley Forge on down to Hell They talk about freedom all night and all day But my ears are froze up I can't hear what they say, They give out such a line about the land of the free But the way things are going, that's a place I won't see. To live I'm too cold, to die I'm too young This life is too short to be over and done Is this the last winter that I'll ever see Well I don't care for no God that don't care for me I'm not completely sure what I hear on that verse about Charlie, but I think I've got it. as sung by Joe Hickerson on Drive Dull Care Away |
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30 Dec 03 - 05:38 PM (#1082713) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Valley Forge From: KathWestra JoeO, I think you've got that verse very nearly right, except for the third line. JoeH sings: Haul out the meat wagon, if you've horses to pull... otherwise it's as Joe sings it. I have the booklets at home, and could send you the notes later in the week. Happy New Year! Kathy |
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26 Mar 04 - 08:22 PM (#1147167) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Valley Forge From: harpgirl I would really like the chords to this song, as well, Barbara... |
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27 Mar 04 - 02:08 PM (#1147691) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Valley Forge From: Barbara I'll tell you what. I'll post a tune, and then you can decide if you want chords. I do know one person who sings it with a 12 string, but I prefer it a capella. Or with a drum. But Joe's away from his computer right now, and the last tune I sent hasn't gone up yet. I'll look around and see if I can find who else to send tunes to. And, Kendall or whomever, where does the missing verse go? I've never heard that one. Blessings, Barbara |
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27 Mar 04 - 04:24 PM (#1147765) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Valley Forge From: Barbara Oh, never mind Kendall, I see the placement of the verse in Joe's post. Abby, if you'd like to PM me your email, I'll send you the MIDI as an attachment. I have posted it to the MIDI people here, but I'm not sure how long it will take to get it up and running. I make a link for you when we do. I was amazed to discover that Valley Forge is in waltz time, because I think of it as a strident, powerful song, sung freely but with a very hard downbeat, and I think of 3/4 as lyrical, generally. I was sure it was 4/4, but I was wrong. In my mind's eye, I see it sung as fast as a soldier would trudge. Also, for something completely different, have a look at the Middle Class Life thread I just revived. That's another Bob Coltman song. Blessings, Barbara |
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27 Mar 04 - 09:19 PM (#1147912) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Valley Forge From: Dani Wow. I would very much like to learn this song. Have you read MacKinley Kantor's "Valley Forge"? Do you think Joe Hickerson's recording is the best way to learn it? Or will one of y'all be at the Getaway to teach it to me ;) Dani |
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28 Mar 04 - 11:44 PM (#1148664) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Valley Forge From: Barbara Here ya go, Mudcat Midi added, see link at the top of the thread. I realized after I sent it off that I sing a different tune for the following verses: the first line of the subsequent verses is the same as the third line of the first verse. Clear? Blessings, Barbara |