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05 Feb 04 - 05:43 AM (#1109807) Subject: Tony Rose Project From: Ralphie I've just received an E Mail from Tonys daughter Laura, regarding a project to create a retrospective CD of Tonys life. So, chaps....anybody got any live recordings of Mr Rose in their attics?? My breath is bated Regards Ralphie |
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05 Feb 04 - 06:22 AM (#1109820) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: The Borchester Echo I've alerted the usual suspects (wake up Kevin Sheils!) to sort through their junk...could take some time. This is wonderful news. Tony Rose's glorious voice should be available everywhere. I'm so looking forward to the results. |
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05 Feb 04 - 08:43 AM (#1109886) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Dave Hanson Tony sang with Pete and Chris Coe and Nic Jones in that great band Bandogs, Pete would be a good contact, he's on line at either Ryburn Three Step or Redshift Records, [ I think ] eric |
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05 Feb 04 - 09:02 AM (#1109904) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: The Borchester Echo How to contact Pete Coe |
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05 Feb 04 - 03:49 PM (#1110156) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Herga Kitty Laura's started her own thread... can a Joe clone combine them? |
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05 Feb 04 - 04:14 PM (#1110168) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* I didn't see yours on here earlier Ralphie, we must have started around the same time. Great minds think alike! Laura x |
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05 Feb 04 - 05:25 PM (#1110207) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Crane Driver I have a tape of Tony singing at the Triangle Folk Club, Edinburgh, sometime in the early '70s - I'll look it out. Quality of recording is no doubt poor, but the quality of the performance will surely shine through. You're welcome to use anything on it that you like. PM me with the address you'd like it sent to. Andrew |
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05 Feb 04 - 07:09 PM (#1110310) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Nemesis Don't flatter him Laura, I'm positive your mind is much greater than his. Nem |
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06 Feb 04 - 05:02 AM (#1110573) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Kevin Sheils Unfortunately Countess I was never a collector of tapes of club nights although I was at many of Tony's gigs when he lived in London. Now I wonder if Bill Leader has any outtakes of the sessions for his albums that were not part of the deal that saw them going eventually to CM. Probably not, and could possibly cause problems anyway, but may be worth exploring if anyone has contact with Bill. I lost touch with him when he moved from round the corner to me in London. |
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06 Feb 04 - 07:29 AM (#1110636) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: The Borchester Echo OK, back to what I said above....chez Pete Coe seems a good place to start asking since he was there at the time Leader was wound up. |
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06 Feb 04 - 08:16 AM (#1110662) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: pavane Good luck - I will look forward to it. Unfortunatly, when I saw Tony at Pontardawe many years ago (early 1970's), I didn't record him, but I greatly enjoyed the evening. |
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06 Feb 04 - 10:44 AM (#1110757) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: GUEST,Geoff I may have some recordings.This will require a couple of days to determine ! Can you post an address to contact please ! |
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06 Feb 04 - 06:50 PM (#1111036) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Crane Driver I've found the tape, and it's remarkably good quality, seeing it dates from 1973 or thereabouts. The songs are as follows: - Poor Man's Labours Just as the Tide was Flowing The Famous Farmer (Bruton Town) The Crafty Maid's Policy Silbury Hill Thornaby Woods The Pensioner's Complaint Sheath and Knife Limbo The Bellringing plus Tony's introductions and chat between songs. I know some of these are on his recordings, but I'll happily copy the tape for this project. Where do I send it? Andrew |
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24 Feb 04 - 03:51 PM (#1122826) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Hi - i don't know if my PM ever got to you because a whole list of 'Geoffs' came up and I sent it to one. Looking at you name (Geoff) on here again thogh the little PM sign isn't highlighted. Do you still need an address? thanks lots |
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24 Feb 04 - 04:09 PM (#1122837) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: greg stephens I have a good few reel-to-reel songs of Tony's in the mid-60's, recorded in Oxford. |
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24 Feb 04 - 04:34 PM (#1122848) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: greg stephens As well as the reasonable quality recordings I mentioned in the previous post, i have some rough cassette live club recordings, of Tony singing Shoals of Herring, Kelly the Boy from Killane, The Seeds of Love, and Come all ye Tramps and Hawkers. Probably from 1964. I also have a splendidly atrocious tape of the Chastity Belt, with verses contributed by Tony Rose, and also Mudcat's very own McGrath from Harlow and Mike of Northumbria, in their green and salad days. PM me if you are interested,Laura. |
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25 Feb 04 - 03:34 PM (#1123705) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: bazza I have some of tony,s songs recorded at" The Fighting Cocks" in Kingsston on thames in the 60,s.I will try and find them |
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28 Feb 04 - 11:11 AM (#1125708) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* hi - have PMd some of you - just renewing the thread! We are very interested in tapes and stuff! We've got one so far, and a couple that we had stored away in the attic - but thats all so far! Please keep digging! Thanks and lots of hugs Laura x |
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03 Mar 04 - 03:41 PM (#1128636) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: greg stephens Refresh. Keep these tapes coming |
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04 Mar 04 - 02:13 PM (#1129212) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Yes do! and if you need an address ask and I'll PM you! x |
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06 Mar 04 - 02:27 PM (#1130460) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* |
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10 Mar 04 - 02:32 PM (#1133233) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Just a quickie to refresh - and also big BIG hugs to everyone who has sent stuff in, and wwho are digging away for us! Very Very much appreciated! thanks Laura xx |
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20 Mar 04 - 05:20 PM (#1141920) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Hi again, hope everyone is lovely! Just to say there is now an address in the current issue of FRoots, and also my e-mail address. (pg 13 I think) Thanks hugs from Laura x |
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21 Mar 04 - 11:29 AM (#1142296) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: GUEST,pat&ken Hi Laura, I managed to find a copy of a folkweave that Tony was on in 1977 from Ipswich Folk club which is quite clear all things cosidering.I kept it because I was on the same programme. I've also got an absolutely deadful recording that I did at Adrian House in Liverpool in 1974 when I was at college. I'll send them both on & see if they are any use. Say hello to your mum from us Pat & Ken |
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25 Mar 04 - 01:17 PM (#1145977) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Thanks - will do! Laura xx |
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28 Mar 04 - 04:20 PM (#1148381) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: GUEST,Richard Mellish Apologies for taking so long before joining this thread. I'm not a Mudcat regular (don't tell me: I know I should be) but Kitty told me this was going on, so I should have put my three ha'p'orth in sooner. I have recordings from Reading University Folk Club in 1969 and from Herga in 1973, 1976 and 1978. These were all recorded on my Uher and should mostly be of fair or better quality, but I won't know until I play them. I also have one song copied from one of Edgar Ashton's recordings at Edinburgh University Folk Soc, date unknown, probably also around 1969. I have recently treated myself to a decent 24-bit sound card and a Revox, so I should be able to transfer any or all of these recordings into digital format with negligible loss of quality from whatever quality the original tapes can offer. Long term I intend to digitise ALL my recordings, if I'm spared, but I make no promise as to how much I can deal with how soon, and I've also promised to digitise my miscellaneous recordings from the Goat in St Albans, for the Tony Barratt project. Therefore please let me know if there's any of the following recordings of Tony Rose that you particularly want or definitely don't want. (Some of these may be better known by alternative titles, but they should be recognisable.) The Deserter from Kent Six Months Hard Labour Matt Highland Five Foot Flirt Blackwater Side Compliments Returned Oh Sir Oh, No Sir No Baron of Brakley Tavistock Goosey Fair Widdiecombe Fair Pleasant & Delightful German Musicianer Fatal Curse of Drink Silbury Hill Yarmouth Town Plains of Waterloo The Parson & the Clerk Thirty Foot Trailer The Piddletrenthide Jug Band Just As the Tide was Flowing George Collins The Pensioner's Lament The Bay of Biscay The Bonny Hind Drover's Dream Let Her Go, Farewell She The Grand Conversation on Napoleon Limbo The Jolly Bold Robber Hymn by Betjeman I Live Not Where I Live Sheath & Knife 'Twas on One April Morning Tarry Trousers Banks of Green Willow Composite Wassail song Lord Randall Nobby Hall Bold Archer New York Trader Broomfield Wager The Baker of Coalman (?) Fare Thee Well, My Dearest Dear January Man Shepherd of the Downs Polly Vaughn The Mallard Streams of Lovely Nancy |
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28 Mar 04 - 05:46 PM (#1148428) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Ralphie Richard...Hi! Sounds an amazing haul! I'll contact Laura and tell her to look at the list. If you used a Uher, It should all be pretty good stuff..... Omigod.....I feel a boxed set coming on. Maybe we can get Topic to finance it? Well, They've done it for the Watersons! Regards Ralphie |
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02 Apr 04 - 04:14 PM (#1153056) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: GUEST,*Laura* Hi - wow oh wow oh wow! hee hee! That's amazing! I don't know where to start or end! Any ideas anyone? Any favourites? Wow - I'm all overcome! Laura xx |
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03 Apr 04 - 12:31 PM (#1153613) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Hi everyone - npot quite sure why i came up as a guest - but it is me! xx |
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07 Apr 04 - 01:42 PM (#1156747) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Hi - i've looked through the list a bit more. My own personal favourite is The January Man, and Polly Vaughn. but i really don't know which to pick. maybe you could send a random selection! or does anyone else have any particular favourites? Hugs from Laura xx |
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10 Apr 04 - 03:58 PM (#1158746) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* refresh. and thanks to all tape-senders. much appreciated! xx |
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12 Apr 04 - 03:45 PM (#1160081) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Hi, Meg's here now too, and we've had another look at this great list! I would like to hear certian songs and Meg would like to hear some of the ones that haven't ever been recorded! But we would like to send as much as possible off to see what is good enough quality to be used, and then pick our final selection from that. So we wondered how much of the list would you be able to let us have? hugs from Laura x p.s. Meg says 'Hi' to Ralphie and Pat and Ken, and thanks to everyone for all your help!! |
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24 Apr 04 - 03:32 PM (#1169874) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* refresh - think we've squeazed all your tapes from you by now! but never mind. Laura xx |
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24 Apr 04 - 05:35 PM (#1169957) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Little Robyn I have a cassette from Laycock FF in 1972 which I was going to dig out but I think Ralphie's list includes everything and more. Robyn |
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24 Apr 04 - 05:37 PM (#1169960) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Little Robyn Sorry, I meant Richard's list. Robyn |
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10 May 04 - 02:21 PM (#1182444) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* refresh. Thanks so so much to everyone who's sent stuff - we've got a really good collection now! (but if you do find anything else.....) I think we're going to find out what can be used out of what we've got, and then make our selection from that! Robyn - you could send it anyway if you like, Richard sent about half of that stuff so... you never know. Any it might be nice to have it from a different place - it's probably slightly different anyway, or at least with a different atmosphere. If it's not too much trouble o' course! Thanks everyone hugs from Laura xxx |
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20 May 04 - 08:14 AM (#1189499) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* refresh - just in case! xx L xx |
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20 May 04 - 02:01 PM (#1189941) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Amos |
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18 Jul 04 - 07:03 PM (#1228484) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Hello everyone - heres an update - i think we've got everything we're going to get by now so we're going to find out what CAN be used from all our stuff - then make a short-list from that. Thanks so much to all of you! Hope you're all having good summers. I am working at the CD's at Sidmouth so I'll probably see some of you then. (but may not know it) Laura xx |
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18 Jul 04 - 08:17 PM (#1228540) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Folkiedave If Topic don't do the retrospective I am sure Neil Wayne could be persuaded....... Dave www.collectorsfolk.co.uk |
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19 Jul 04 - 03:49 AM (#1228753) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Kevin Sheils Hope the project goes well Laura, see you all at the stall in Sidmouth. Not long now....... |
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15 Aug 04 - 07:13 AM (#1247956) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Refresh. and Thanks to everyone who gave me stuff at Sidmouth, or asked about it. xLx |
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16 Aug 04 - 02:54 AM (#1248459) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Big Al Whittle He used to do that one In Thorneymoor wood in Nottinghamshire right falerum wack folarity Three houses stood at three square sorry I've forgotten it, but he used to have this really smooth DADGAD style accompaniment - something like Martin Simpson has on Creeping Jane nowadays. quite unique at the time when most people played DADGAD, with a sort of deranged rumpety bump rhythm - does anybody else remember, or is my memory playing tricks on me. I first saw Tony when he was a very young teacher. I think he'd been at Lukes and he came back to the area and did a spot at the folk club in Exmouth, one night when The Journeymen were doing the gig. I think he was playing an old Levin and he did Tavistock Goosey Fair. Then I saw him a few times round Exeter in the 70's when I started singing myself, and then at Cambridge. after that the trad /contemporary war hotted up and a Dylan/ McTell influenced singer like myself was pretty much persona non grata in the kind of clubs Tony got booked. Tony was a wonderful singer, a fine good humoured man and a good accompanist. I wish you well with your project. |
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16 Aug 04 - 07:02 AM (#1248552) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* I think I know the songyu mean - but I can't remember it properly either! Thanks xLx |
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16 Aug 04 - 11:14 AM (#1248676) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Crane Driver The song is normally called Thornymoor Woods, there was a thread on it last year giving several versions of the words, but I don't know how to do a clicky to a thread yet. Tony's version was called Thornaby Woods, and is on the tape I sent Laura earlier. Great version, though not being a guitarist I can't comment on the technique. It certainly fits the song brilliantly. Andrew |
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16 Aug 04 - 12:14 PM (#1248710) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Big Al Whittle I thought somebody would know about it, even though I couldn't see it in the list. I think at one time at least, he would have listed it as one of big achievements. A big song. As I remember there is one version in AL Lloyd 's folksong in england, and it also featured in Folksongs of the midlands (Roy --------) sorry I've forgotten |
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26 Aug 04 - 04:09 PM (#1257570) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: GUEST,Vinyl-wizzard Laura, I only just came across this thread, sadly I am probably too late to contribute much to any compilation, except a few tracks from a Fylde club session (1983) left for me by a friend. However, this note as well as being a "please tell me how its going" is a plea for a copy of the only LP of Tony Rose that I do NOT have "Young Hunting" I have copies of Banks of Green Willows, Greenwood tree, Poor Fellows, and Bandoggs, of course his one & only CD " Bones" But Young Hunting eludes me. Anything appreciated, Analogue tape, digital tape (DAT) CD, in audio or MP3 format, anything to complete the sound colection, if not the black vinyl. Thanks.. VW. |
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31 Aug 04 - 09:55 AM (#1260683) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Hi, Firstly - you're not yet too late! If you have anything to contribute it is still greatly apprectaited - we are still listning through everything! Unfortunately - the actual records are owned by Dave Bulmer (no immediate comment on this character... cough) so we can't release them as CD, however... I shall PM you... xLx |
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31 Aug 04 - 09:59 AM (#1260688) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Just realised I can't PM you as you're not a member. Well, we have an unofficial CD set of the records - cleaned up and put onto CD for us by a friend. So although we can't re-release them for sale on cd - I could probably do you a very unofficial copy if you like. If you'd like an address to send stuff to I'll either pm you (if you are planning to become a member) or it was in a copy of Froots a few months ago. cheers xLx |
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31 Aug 04 - 03:17 PM (#1260942) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: English Jon I recently recorded a version of Bridgwater Fair - was feeling fairly pleased with it till the producer dug out his Tony Rose album and played me Tony singing, to the accompaniment of Dolly Collins. Absolutely stunning. Jon |
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09 Sep 04 - 07:30 PM (#1268039) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: GUEST,Vinyl-wizzard Thanks Laura, Sorry, about the membership, I must look for an address for you, leave it to me. I understand about the "bulmer" problem, I did read many of the threads before settling here. Regards... VW |
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03 Oct 04 - 02:15 PM (#1287520) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* refresh - just in case!!! (but we're nearly there now I think - as far as colecting's concerned) xLx |
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05 Nov 04 - 02:21 PM (#1318057) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Refresh - please have a final dig! |
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15 Nov 04 - 03:35 AM (#1327049) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: GUEST,Vinyl wizzard News has it (if you did not find out already) that There is a FIRST official release from Bulmer & Co of a Tony Rose CD, the Greenwood tree, due out TODAY 15 Nov 2004 is this going to see a flood of previously trapped material? I doubt it, but at least its a start. Guilt? I also doubt it, more like seizing an opportunity to jump the gun, on any "Tony Rose Project" Release, more like.. VW |
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15 Nov 04 - 05:50 PM (#1327789) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Yeh probably. He offered us a 'deal' we could buy something liek 100 cds or something to speed up the process - i'm not sure without the letter in front of me but it involved us shelling out a lot of cash and still not seeing any royalties. Oh but if we want a copy we can buy it at artist royalty-free price. How generous! If it wasn't for Tone he wouldn't have the bloody Cd - so his bloody family shouldn't have to bloody buy it! artist price or otherwise! Some people have a weird idea of the world! anyway - it's not worth getting worked up about. He's just jealous that 'Tony Rose Live' is going to be a HUGE SUCCESS! ha. xLx |
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23 Nov 04 - 07:54 PM (#1337084) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: GUEST,wes.w Hi Laura, Good luck - its bound to be a biggy! love to you and Mum from all at North Cadbury .. wes PS After 30 years of hearing the tales, I can assure you that Bulmer and Sharpley are a total waste of space. Don't bother - "Keep on Kopying" as Pete Bellamy almost said! |
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16 Feb 05 - 01:14 PM (#1412002) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Refresh - Thought I'd let you all know - Diggory and I have decided on a couple of possible track lists, so we're on to the next step now of finding out if the stuff we've chosen is 'useable'. I'll let you know how it goes! love Laura xx |
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17 Feb 05 - 01:08 PM (#1413074) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Ralphie Laura Give me a call or E me your number. Seems to have got lost somewhere!! Ralphie x |
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29 Sep 05 - 11:43 AM (#1572138) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: *Laura* Just to let everyone know - we've got all the stuff we need. Every time we're about to send it to you Ralphie - we get a call from someone with more. So - this is an official 'closing date' hehe. Thanks for all your help I'll keep you posted! xLx |
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30 Sep 05 - 01:36 PM (#1572845) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: GUEST Just found this thread. I am stateside and heard of Tony Rose when I purchased a pair of his LPs on Leader"Trailer label from Bill Leader when I was ordering the early LPs of the High Level Ranters in the early to mid-1970s. (Boy, that dates me, doesn't it !) Tony's LPs were amazingly good. What a voice and presence ! I hope who ever is in charge here or reads this message can keep me abreast of the possible release of any Rose cds in the future. Also, can anyone send me a formal obit for Tony? I only heard of his death from a member of the vocal group Artisan when they sang in my area some 9 months ago. Did Tony ever perform in the US ? Would like copies of any of his LPs, but prefer to buy legit copies when they come out. I just ordered "Under the Greenwood Tree" on cd. Maybe more will come out later. Alan Prichard Albany, NY alanpr@nycap.rr.com |
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01 Oct 05 - 10:39 AM (#1573409) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: Phil Cooper I know Tony played in the States at least once, because I saw him perform in Chicago in 1982. A great concert at the now defunct Holstein's. |
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07 Jan 06 - 10:08 PM (#1643824) Subject: RE: Tony Rose Project From: GUEST I have found a wav of thronobuy woods from the Johnson hall year of the child concert in Yeovil . EM me if you would like it nfraser@cogeco.ca |