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Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme

21 Feb 04 - 12:01 AM (#1120217)
Subject: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: matai

Are their any versions of songs like 'Wild Mountain Thyme' from the woman's point of view? ie deflowering of male virgins or ruining their reputations?

matai


21 Feb 04 - 07:42 AM (#1120342)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: Dave Hanson

no


21 Feb 04 - 08:30 AM (#1120357)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: The Borchester Echo

The young man doesn't come off too well in 'The Trees They Do Grow High'. It all seems to have been a bit too much for him.

In 'The Game Of All Fours', while the man doesn't start out exactly innocent, he certainly doesn't emerge with his reputation (for card-playing ot whatever) intact.


21 Feb 04 - 09:06 AM (#1120371)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: Maryrrf

"Deflowering" male virgins didn't ruin their reputation, it enhanced it.


21 Feb 04 - 10:05 AM (#1120392)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: Dave Hanson

Wish someone would deflower me again.
eric


21 Feb 04 - 10:19 AM (#1120395)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: Bohdran Killer

Sad git


21 Feb 04 - 05:28 PM (#1120661)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: matai

yes the 'Trees grow high...' but it was the action of the father that caused the problem wasn't it marrying her off to a boy too young and we're not told how he dies (war i suppose) interesting that the most appropriate anwer is 'No' and who says there aren't gender differences!!!


21 Feb 04 - 05:44 PM (#1120677)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: Little Robyn

Some Child ballads are possibilities. The Jewess' Garden or Judy Henske's version - Love Henry or Henry's in the well, who put him in?
Robyn


17 Mar 04 - 01:26 PM (#1139264)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: GUEST,MMario

I wouldn't expect to see them because

a) the "deflowering" of a male virgin was (to some extent is) a ritual of passage rather then the "ruination" of a maiden. (The old double standard that is always being ranted about)

b) rather then ruining his reputation the seduction of a youth/lad/young man would enhance his reputation.

c) There ARE songs I've seen about men being unable to "perform" - and *those* I would suspect are the equivilant to the "ruined maiden" songs.


18 Mar 04 - 01:55 AM (#1139738)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: pavane

Like 'Nine times a night'?


18 Mar 04 - 05:19 AM (#1139803)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: jacqui.c

How about Maids When You're Young?


18 Mar 04 - 06:10 AM (#1139833)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: Davetnova

Only a boy but He's Growing


18 Mar 04 - 08:43 AM (#1139925)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: matai

yeah, that's the trees they do grow high again... its difficult isn't it...surprising how difficult...maybe future generations will get this together.

matai


18 Mar 04 - 08:45 AM (#1139926)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: Fiona

The only one I can think of is Alison Gross, but it's not what you would call seduction.


18 Mar 04 - 10:31 PM (#1140548)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: Strick

Well, there's Larry McMurtry's The Last Picture Show (the coach's wife) which is a good movie and a better book, but I suspose it's irreverent to offer up something that isn't a song.


19 Mar 04 - 02:19 AM (#1140627)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: Fiona

Wouldn't Matty groves count too?


19 Mar 04 - 11:10 AM (#1140972)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: Dave Bryant

What about "Whistle Daughter, Whistle" and all all the "Don't let me die an Old Maid" songs and although it's modern there's always "Johnny and Gertrude" which ends up "'cos mummy says as long as I've got one of these - I can get one of those ANYTIME!".


04 Sep 21 - 12:00 AM (#4118775)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: woman pulling wild mountain thyme
From: GUEST,Guest, Kevin Dolan

Hey, Dave Bryant...Any idea who wrote 'Johnny and Gertrude'?