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29 Feb 04 - 07:42 PM (#1126501) Subject: BS: Claire de la lune. From: akenaton No comment on Mudcat, over the light thrown on the murky practices of the US and UK governments by Claire Short. Claire claims to have seen transcripts of telephone conversations between Kofi Annan,U.N. president ,and other heads of government, prior to the Iraq War. These calls are said to have been obtained ,by "bugging " the UN headquarters. Some observers say that any tactics are permissible to remove a tyrant from power,but given the spin and manipulation previosly used to try to obtain a second UN resolution for war,the worrying thing is the way the American and British public are being fooled. Hope Claire redeems herself and open the whole Iraq "can of worms" to Public scrutiny....Ake |
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29 Feb 04 - 07:59 PM (#1126511) Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune. From: Peace I would bet the governments involved will slap the equivalent of Top Secret on the records and seal 'em for 50 years. Simple taxpayers--lest we forget who paid for the party--will be treated like mushrooms, and we know what that is. |
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29 Feb 04 - 10:57 PM (#1126620) Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune. From: Donuel Well it is still progress 2000 years ago she would have been cruxified. |
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01 Mar 04 - 07:36 PM (#1127339) Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune. From: akenaton Brucie That was a well scripted post.Complete with your usual wit!! Donuel...She should have been crucified,when refusing to resign over the war!! Like most of the Left ,her ego seems to know no bounds. However,maybe she can make amends by forcing this "parcel of rouges" to come clean over the manipulation and distortion of the facts. Oh and by the way a pig just flew past my window!...Ake |
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01 Mar 04 - 08:29 PM (#1127365) Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune. From: Peace Akenaton: The scariest thing you mention really, is that so much done in the name of the people is kept from those people. And when the people want to know, they are told it isn't in their best interest to know. I hate to say this, Ake, but it is little different here. |
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02 Mar 04 - 03:16 AM (#1127461) Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune. From: greg stephens Spies spy. A politician is a sanctimonious self-serving hypocrite. I prefer my news stoties with an element of "new" about them. |
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02 Mar 04 - 03:43 AM (#1127469) Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune. From: Wilfried Schaum Good intelligence is one of the essential demands of governments and military leaders, even between "friends"; that's nothing new for the last three or four millennia. But really good intelligence people should never forget the eleventh commandment: Thou shalt not be caught. Wilfried |
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02 Mar 04 - 04:10 PM (#1127938) Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune. From: Mrrzy Shouldn't this be "Claire DANS la lune" instead? |
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03 Mar 04 - 04:38 AM (#1128287) Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune. From: Wolfgang Mrrzy, the sense would be better with your formulation, but the association to the French folksong 'Au claire de la lune' would be lost. Wolfgang |
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03 Mar 04 - 06:15 AM (#1128333) Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune. From: Nigel Parsons All together now... "Old Claire is a looney Talking utter rot She say's Blair's illegal, He claims that he's not...." Nigel |
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03 Mar 04 - 07:44 PM (#1128761) Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune. From: Mrrzy "dans la lune" means your head is up your ass... I think the association would have come through, but hey, that's me. |
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04 Mar 04 - 03:47 AM (#1128904) Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune. From: GUEST,JTT I heard an English radio programme where all kinds of soft-voiced spooks were phoning in (!) to talk about the bugging. One of them talked about the negotiations for, I think, Suez, when bugging the opposite side meant that "we had sight of their cards before we went intot the talks". I thought it was *psychologically* very interesting that an intelligence operative would use a metaphor based on cheating at cards when he was talking about this subject. They know what they do is wrong. |
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04 Mar 04 - 02:32 PM (#1129224) Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune. From: akenaton Mrrzy....I know Claire has an inflated ego, but I hardly think her up to the gymnastics that you describe. Perhaps you could E mail her some hints?....Ake |
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04 Mar 04 - 07:25 PM (#1129420) Subject: RE: BS: Claire de la lune. From: Dave the Gnome Wasn't it Claire de Lune in the 39 steps? De de de de de de de. De de de de de de de de... You know the one I mean! Cheers Dedededede the Gnome |