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29 Sep 98 - 01:58 PM (#39926) Subject: Pretty little miss out in the garden From: Ed Hi: I'm looking for the words to Pretty Little miss out in the garden as sung by the New Lost City Ramblers. Thanks |
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29 Sep 98 - 02:17 PM (#39930) Subject: RE: Pretty little miss out in the garden From: Joe Offer Ed, I'm wondering if either of these is the song you're looking for: THE BROKEN TOKEN PRETTY LITTLE MISS Click on the song titles to get to the lyrics, and let us know if either one is the right song. Otherwise, could you give us a few more phrases of the song to go on? -Joe Offer- |
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30 Sep 98 - 06:50 PM (#40063) Subject: RE: Pretty little miss out in the garden From: Ewan McV I think they perhaps sang Cousin Emmy's version of a song which has some dozens of variants of The Broken Token : Pretty little miss out in the garden Strange young man came riding by Down at the gate he did adress her Saying 'Pretty little miss, won't you marry me?" If that verse hits the spot, post a message and I'll hack out the rest for you. |
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03 Oct 98 - 04:21 PM (#40286) Subject: RE: Pretty little miss out in the garden From: Ed Gould Thanks for the input. It seems the word's I've heard are very close in theme to the broken Token. Ed |
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03 Oct 98 - 05:58 PM (#40295) Subject: RE: Pretty little miss out in the garden From: Ewan McV Ed, I can't tell from your message if the verse I quoted is the lyric you want. I won't type the whole lyric out unless you need that particular version. Let me know if it's the one. Ewan |
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03 Oct 98 - 06:01 PM (#40296) Subject: RE: Pretty little miss out in the garden From: Ewan McV Second verse, by the way, is Oh, no, kind sir, I have a love on the ocean Seven years sailed on the sea And if he sails for seven years longer No man on earth shall marry me |
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26 Feb 03 - 01:46 AM (#898875) Subject: Lyr Add: PRETTY LITTLE MISS OUT IN THE GARDEN From: GUEST, Dale Some things just take longer than others. Here they are, WAY less than five years. These lyrics are definitely related to the songs mentioned by Joe, and as Ewan says, "I think they perhaps sang Cousin Emmy's version." Never have figured out how in these songs that the sweet young miss never has the slightest clue that she is talking to her lover returned from over the sea until he says so. I do think the line, "I'd love the girl that would marry him" is one of the neatest thoughts ever put into a song, especially as sung by Laura. Pretty Little Miss Out In The Garden From the singing of Laura Boosinger, My Carolina Home. Upstream 888, 1990 Laura says,"From the singing of Cousin Emmy" A pretty fair miss, all out in her garden A strange young man came riding by Down at the gate he did address her Saying, pretty fair miss, won't you be my bride? Well, no kind sir, I've a love on the ocean For seven years long, he's sailed on the sea And if he sails seven years longer No man on earth could marry me Perhaps your love is drowned in the ocean Perhaps he's in some battle land Perhaps he's courted a pretty girl and married You'll never see your love again Well if he's gone, I hope he's happy Or if he's in some battle land Or if he's courted a pretty girl and married I'd love the girl that would marry him He pulled his hands both out of his pockets His finger's ring both lean and small (this line is a bit awkward) Here is the ring you placed upon them Down at his feet, she did fall He picked her up in his arms so tender And kisses he gave her, one, two, three I am your pretty single soldier Returning home for to marry thee The Laura Boosinger album, by the way, is highly recommended. When The Roses Bloom In Dixieland, Sweet Sunny South, Grandfather's Clock, I Will Arise, Under The Weeping Willow Tree, What'll We Do With The Baby-O, Free Little Bird, Over The Mountain, Wondrous Love, Pretty Little Miss Out In The Garden, Are You Tired Of Me My Darlin', My Carolina Home/Carolina Moon. |
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26 Feb 03 - 04:33 AM (#898937) Subject: RE: Pretty little miss out in the garden From: John MacKenzie Fair young maid all in her garden Strange young man passes her by Said young maid will you marry me This then sir was her reply. Oh no kind sir I cannot marry thee For I've a love who sails all on the sea He's been gone for seven long years Still no man may marry me. What if he's in some battle slain Or drownded in the deep salt sea What if he's found some other love And he and his love both married be. I remember this fragment, but can't for the moment think where from, if I can find more info, I will post it. |
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26 Feb 03 - 05:00 AM (#898948) Subject: RE: Pretty little miss out in the garden From: Jeanie And then there's this version: Fair Maid Walking Dale - I reckon she realized who he was right from the beginning, and was having a bit of a game ! - jeanie |
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26 Feb 03 - 07:05 AM (#898994) Subject: RE: Pretty little miss out in the garden From: masato sakurai Other versions in the DT: THE YOUNG AND SINGLE SAILOR JOHN RILEY JOHN REILLY. See also The Traditional Ballad Index: Pretty Fair Maid (The Maiden in the Garden; The Broken Token) [Laws N42]. ~Masato |
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06 Aug 03 - 02:25 PM (#998044) Subject: RE: Pretty little miss out in the garden From: GUEST,Laura Boosinger I just found this listing of the lyrics I sing to "A Pretty Fair Miss out All in the Garden." The line that they previous writer posted as "awkward" should read: His fingers being both lean and small" Hope that makes more sense! laura |
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06 Aug 03 - 04:33 PM (#998135) Subject: RE: Pretty little miss out in the garden From: GUEST,Dale Well, thank you, Laura, for stopping by! Do come again. That line gave me a lot of trouble. No idea how I got ring instead of being. I knew it didn't sound right, but I couldn't fix it. I'll alert Joe to your correction, and he'll fix it for us. You do have some fans here. Most recently we were discussing Carolina Home. I work on the recording project at the Ozark Folk Center, and was pleased to run across the recordings from when you were a guest there. |
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21 Feb 11 - 09:26 AM (#3099692) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Little Miss Out in the Garden From: GUEST,Deana My grandmother sang this song with a gay cowboy riding by, not a sailor and he had been gone for four years. The question section had what if he an indian slave, drown in a river or some foreign girl marry. Any one heard it with this version? |
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27 Feb 11 - 12:21 AM (#3103382) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Little Miss Out in the Garden From: Jim Dixon The US Copyright Office says PRETTY LITTLE MISS OUT IN THE GARDEN was registered in 1941 by Mae Creasy & Alfred Creasy of Knoxville, Tenn. The Online 78-rpm Discographical Project says PRETTY LITTLE MISS OUT IN THE GARDEN was recorded by Cousin Emmy in 1947. The Journal of Country Music says Mae Creasy performed as "Cousin Emmy." |
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27 Feb 11 - 05:29 AM (#3103455) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Little Miss Out in the Garden From: Tim Chesterton Tim O'Brien does a fine version of this on his album 'Fiddler's Green'. You can hear it here. |
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16 Sep 11 - 12:27 PM (#3224264) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Little Miss Out in the Garden From: GUEST May Creasy is actually Cynthia May Carver, who performed as Cousin Emmy. She was married to Johnny (Afred) Creasy at the time. |
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17 Sep 11 - 11:36 AM (#3224679) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Little Miss Out in the Garden From: GUEST,John Foxen Tom McConville does a fine version called Pretty Fair Maid on his Tommy On Song CD |
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21 Sep 11 - 09:48 AM (#3226602) Subject: Lyr Add: PRETTY LITTLE MISS OUT IN THE GARDEN From: Jim Dixon Cousin Emmy's recording can be heard on her album "Kentucky Mountain Ballads" (Master Classics Records, 2009). I listened on Spotify, and made this transcription. I have boldfaced the words that are different from the ones GUEST,Dale posted above. I have also added punctuation. PRETTY LITTLE MISS OUT IN THE GARDEN As sung by "Cousin Emmy" Pretty little miss out in the garden, Strange young man came riding by. Down at the gate he did address her, Saying, "Pretty little miss, won't you marry me?" "No, kind sir, I have a love on the ocean, Seven year long, sailed on the sea, And if he sails on seven years longer, Not a man on earth can marry me." "Perhaps your love he is drownded. Perhaps he's in some battle land. Perhaps he stole some pretty girl and married. You'll never see your love again." "If he's drownded, I hope he's happy, Or if he's in some battle land, Or if he stole some pretty girl and married, I'll love the girl that married him." He pulled his hands both out of his pockets, His fingers bein' both keen and small. "This is th'ring you placed upon here." Down by his feet she did fall. He picked her up in his arms so tender. Kiss he gave her, one, two, three. "This is your little single soldier Returning home for to marry thee." |
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21 Sep 11 - 09:54 AM (#3226603) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Little Miss Out in the Garden From: GUEST,999 It appears on Cowboy lyrics as Pretty Little Miss in the Garden. |
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19 Feb 12 - 08:13 PM (#3311070) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Little Miss Out in the Garden From: GUEST,JesPiddlin I have a Squidoo lens at http://www.squidoo.com/the-maidens-promise that tells the story of another version of this song, which we have tried to find clues on for years. We keep finding these close matches, but not the same words. Grandma was always good to keep the words to the songs from changing, all the years she sang them. So, I know this version was something she heard. Please check out the link above and let me know if anyone relates to the small differences. |
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20 Feb 12 - 01:09 AM (#3311124) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Little Miss Out in the Garden From: Bob the Postman Blickie for Jes's URL above. |
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20 Feb 12 - 05:45 AM (#3311184) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Little Miss Out in the Garden From: Mick Pearce (MCP) The New Lost City Ramblers' version originally asked for can be downloaded from Smithsonian Folkways: 50 Years: Where Do You Come From? Where Do You Go? New Lost City Ramblers. There are three of the tracks than you can download for free in FLAC or MP3 format: Crow Black Chicken; Old Joe Bone; Pretty Little Miss. Mick |
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20 Feb 12 - 07:58 AM (#3311210) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Little Miss Out in the Garden From: Mick Pearce (MCP) Here's the New Lost City Rambler's version. It's pretty close, but not identical, to the Cousin Emmy version Jim posted above. battle slain is the more usual expression you come across, but battle lain seems to be what they sing. Mick PRETTY LITTLE MISS Pretty little miss, out in the garden; Strange young man come riding by. Down at the gate he did address her, Saying, "Pretty little miss, won't you marry me?" "Oh, no, kind sir, I have a love on the ocean, Seven years long, sailing on the sea. And if he sails a-seven years longer Not a man on earth can marry me." <banjo break> "Perhaps your loved one he is drowned. Perhaps he's in some battle lain. Perhaps he's stole some pretty gal 'n' married, You'll never see your love again." "Oh if he's drowned, I hope he's happy, Or if he's in some battle lain, Or if he's stole some purty girl 'n' married I'll love the girl that'd married him." <fiddle break> He pulled his hands both out of his pocket, His fingers being both keen and small. This is the ring he placed upon it, Down at his feet, there she did fall. He picked her up in his arms so tender, Kisses he gave her, one, two, three. "This is your lonesome single soldier? Returning home for to married be." Source: New Lost City Ramblers - 50 Years: Where Do You Come From? Where Do You Go? |
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01 Jun 18 - 11:59 PM (#3928576) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Little Miss Out in the Garden From: GUEST,Anonymous Another version by Big Medicine is much like Cousin Emmy's, but has: "This is the ring you placed upon him," and "This is your LONESOME single soldier." |
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02 Jun 18 - 02:48 AM (#3928590) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Little Miss Out in the Garden From: Jim Carroll Something we discovered about this song while we were researching the notes for a CD of Clare songs: Lady in Her Father’s Garden (Laws N42; Roud 264) Tom Lenihan, Knockbrack, Miltown Malbay, Recorded 1980 “This is probably one of the most popular of all the 'broken token’ songs, in which parting lovers are said to break a ring in two, each half being kept by the man and woman. At their reunion, the man produces his half as a proof of his identity. Robert Chambers, in his Book of Days (1862-1864) describes a betrothal custom using a 'gimmal' or linked ring: 'Made with a double and sometimes with a triple link, which turned upon a pivot, it could shut up into one solid ring... It was customary to break these rings asunder at the betrothal which was ratified in a solemn manner over the Holy Bible, and sometimes in the presence of a witness, when the man and woman broke away the upper and lower rings from the central one, which the witness retained. When the marriage contract was fulfilled at the altar, the three portions of the ring were again united, and the ring used in the ceremony'. The custom of exchanging rings as a promise of fidelity lasted well into the nineteenth century in Britain and was part of the plot of Thomas Hardy’s Far From the Madding Crowd. These 'Broken Token' songs often end with the woman flinging herself into the returned lover's arms and welcoming him back. Tipperary Travelling woman, Mary Delaney, who also sang it for us, knew it differently and had the suitor even more firmly rejected: For it's seven years brings an alteration, And seven more brings a big change to me, Oh, go home young man, choose another sweetheart, Your serving maid I'm not here to be!” Reference: The Book of Days, Robert Chambers, W & R Chambers, 1863-64. LISTEN HERE Jim Carroll |
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02 Jun 18 - 09:23 AM (#3928702) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Little Miss Out in the Garden From: Brian Peters Thanks, Jim, that's a fine version. |
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02 Jun 18 - 10:22 AM (#3928716) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Little Miss Out in the Garden From: GUEST,RA Thanks Jim Carroll. Is there a publicly available recording of Mary Delaney singing this song? |
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02 Jun 18 - 11:12 AM (#3928725) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pretty Little Miss Out in the Garden From: Jim Carroll If you can give me either an e'Mail address or a postal one I'll happily send you one RA Not happy putting mine up publicly, but I'm sure if you contact Joe Offer he'll oblige All our Clare songs are on line - we're hoping Limerick Uni will put the Travellers collection up in the not to distant future Jim |