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15 Mar 04 - 03:50 PM (#1137328) Subject: Origins: Age of Saint Anne's Reel From: GUEST,Paul Grace We're trying to determine if the tune St Anne's Reel or variants can be dated as having been played in the US or Canada as far back as 1800. Thanks. Paul |
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15 Mar 04 - 04:00 PM (#1137338) Subject: RE: Origins: Age of Saint Anne's Reel From: GUEST,MMario it appears to be a quebecois tune - first recorded publication is in the 1930's. I suspect it may be possible that it is 130 years older - but in my opinion not probable |
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15 Mar 04 - 05:28 PM (#1137406) Subject: RE: Origins: Age of Saint Anne's Reel From: Big Jim from Jackson It's probably as old as Paul Grace's partner Win? :-D |
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15 Mar 04 - 05:37 PM (#1137422) Subject: RE: Origins: Age of Saint Anne's Reel From: Q (Frank Staplin) Thread 19498 has some information: St. Anne's Reel No records before the 20th c. |
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15 Mar 04 - 07:01 PM (#1137495) Subject: RE: Origins: Age of Saint Anne's Reel From: GUEST,Jon My first port of call for this question would be the Fiddler's Companion. Try this search and scroll down for the St Anne's Reel. Jon |
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15 Mar 04 - 09:33 PM (#1137588) Subject: RE: Origins: Age of Saint Anne's Reel From: Q (Frank Staplin) Lovely Midi at Gest Songs of Newfoundland and Labrador: Good article in Fiddler's Companion, Jon, but no pre-20th c. notes. |
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15 Mar 04 - 09:44 PM (#1137596) Subject: RE: Origins: Age of Saint Anne's Reel From: Q (Frank Staplin) Well, messed up but the link does get to Gest Songs although it looks like it is to Jon's Ceolas. This will look better: St. Anne's Reel Click on midi M-Z files and scroll down. |
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16 Mar 04 - 07:07 AM (#1137892) Subject: RE: Origins: Age of Saint Anne's Reel From: Big Mick Anyone else heard that this is based on an earlier tune called something like "The Caudic Reel"? Seems like I read somewhere that it came over from Scotland, and the lads tinkered and came up with the version known as St. Anne's Reel. Long winters up there in the Maritimes, you know. Mick |
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16 Mar 04 - 07:19 AM (#1137898) Subject: RE: Origins: Age of Saint Anne's Reel From: dulcimer I think it some similarity to the third part of Pinch of Snuff. Just my opinion. |
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16 Mar 04 - 07:40 AM (#1137919) Subject: RE: Origins: Age of Saint Anne's Reel From: Pied Piper Here's a "few" variants for you to have a look through. TTFN PP |
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16 Mar 04 - 12:01 PM (#1138208) Subject: RE: Origins: Age of Saint Anne's Reel From: DonMeixner I believe it safe to say that many tunes are named because of where they were played by the person who transcribed them. Lou Killen once told me 'tween sets at a concert that The Boys From Bluehill was really a hornpipe called The Boys From (Of) North Tyne. Gordon Bok called it Lou's Handy as I may be misremembering. I would further think that atributing location, name and age to a good many tunes transcribed before any real field recordings were done will be dificult indeed. I would imagine it would require a bunch of learned fiddle folks sitting around a bunch of very old music texts and playing a piece and then saying "Wazzat?". Don |
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17 Mar 04 - 09:03 AM (#1139069) Subject: RE: Origins: Age of Saint Anne's Reel From: clueless don DonMeixner, As I recall, Gordon Bok recorded a medley of hornpipes (possibly on the album "A Tune for November", or one of the other early Folk Legacy ones) which he called "Lou's Handy", so named because he heard Lou Killen play them. The liner notes identify the two individual tunes, as I recall, as "Boys of North Tyne" and "Reedsdale Hornpipe" (or similar spelling.) "Boys of North Tyne" is the tune that everyone else in the universe calls "Boys of Blue Hill" (or "Bluhill".) A bit of trad-meets-pop trivia: On the Simon and Garfunkel recording of their song "Fakin' It", there is a very brief snatch of "Reedsdale Hornpipe" played during the break, right around the point where a woman's voice says something like "Good morning, Mr. Leach, have you had a busy day?" Thanks to my pal Craig for pointing that out to me! Don |
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02 Feb 20 - 10:38 AM (#4031770) Subject: RE: Origins: Age of Saint Anne's Reel From: GUEST,Neill Conroy - The Geekausaurus From what I know of the tune St. Anne's Reel was first recorded by Joseph Allard in 1929 in Montreal. It is supposed to be named for the Bay of St. Anne in New Brunswick. Here in Canada it is heard a lot on PEI, and has been manipulated to hell and gone there. I first heard it in West Prince County in 1970, But The Islanders with Don Messer probably had played on CBC when I was a young'un and paid it no attention. |