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30 Sep 98 - 11:44 PM (#40111) Subject: ROSA'S LOVELY DAUGHTERS From: KEVIN AND CINDY HI. WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE LYRICS TO ROY BAILEY'S SONG ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS HERO ROSA PARKES. (IT BEGINS "WE ARE ROSA'S LOVELY DAUGHTERS, WE ARE NO MAN'S BLUSHING BRIDE..."). THANKS |
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03 Oct 98 - 10:29 AM (#40272) Subject: RE: ROSA'S LOVELY DAUGHTERS From: skw@ Sorry, folks. It's not about Rosa Parkes but about Rosa Luxemburg, a leading figure of the German Socialists who was murdered by right-wing paramilitaries in Berlin in 1919. I've got a great live version by the disbanded Scottish women's a cappella quartet Palaver, though I do like Roy's version as well. If I find the words I'll post them next week. (I gather they're not in the DT. I haven't checked.) - Susanne |
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06 Oct 98 - 04:55 AM (#40523) Subject: Lyr Add: ROSA'S LOVELY DAUGHTERS (Robb Johnson)^^ From: skw@ ROSA'S LOVELY DAUGHTERS (Robb Johnson) Chorus: We are Rosa's lovely daughters, we are no man's blushing bride We are Rosa's lovely daughters and we will not be denied Who's that walking miles for water Who's that sweat-shoppin' all the day long In the hot south, in the cold north Who are these so proud and strong From the workbench in the back room To the cradle by the side of the bed From mad mothers to peace campers Who are these seeing red Well our fathers handshake their bargains While their good wives stand round and they weep But our hearts sing when we're dancing We are no man's to give or to keep Wearing white scarves in the plaza Burning pass-books in the centre of town We are wildfire in the backyard And that big white house is a-burning down Roy Bailey's version is slightly different in the second and fourth verses: Chorus: These are Rosa's lovely daughters, these are no man's blushing bride These are Rosa's lovely daughters, and they will not be denied From the workbench in the back room From the benchmark upon the bed From the mad mothers to the peace campers Who are these seeing red Being skewed, slewed, stewed and awkward Being clumsy like a clown These are wildfire in the backyard And the big white house is a-burning down [1991:] Robb Johnson wrote [this] after a trip to what was East Berlin. He found Rosa Luxemburg Strasse. I think he felt she should have had a larger street! (Notes Roy Bailey, 'Never Leave A Story Unsung') [1994:] Robb wrote two versions, one of them specifically for women to sing. The Rosa mentioned in the song is Rosa Luxemburg. It's just a song about how wonderful women are, basically. We had great fun last year singing this song in the Whitby Conservative Club. The only thing we missed was that nobody there knew who Rosa Luxemburg was ... (Palaver, intro Glasgow International Folk Festival) Is there a biography or book on Rosa Luxemburg in English? My favourite among her sayings: "Liberty is always (meaning 'should always be') the liberty of those who don't share your convictions." (Could be the Mudcat community motto!) Or what about this: "Those who don't move don't feel their fetters." - Susanne ^^ |
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08 Oct 98 - 11:01 PM (#41003) Subject: RE: ROSA'S LOVELY DAUGHTERS From: kevin.watson Thanks Susanne |
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10 Oct 98 - 07:18 PM (#41166) Subject: RE: ROSA'S LOVELY DAUGHTERS From: Martin Pearson Is it "being". I thought it was "me am" to indicate a sort of bad accent. I never did like that verse, I'm glad Roy changed it. Martin |
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11 Oct 98 - 03:24 AM (#41196) Subject: RE: ROSA'S LOVELY DAUGHTERS From: Joe Offer Hi, Susanne - Several years ago, I had no luck in my attempt to find information about Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht, so I was going to say that there isn't a biography available. I was wrong. Amazon.com has three Rosa Luxemburg books listed. -Joe Offer- |
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11 Oct 98 - 10:05 AM (#41223) Subject: RE: ROSA'S LOVELY DAUGHTERS From: skw@ Martin, I don't really know. As I said, I took the words down from a bad live recording. However, your version doesn't make much sense to me because of the 'these' in the third line. I'm pretty sure Palaver do sinf 'these' and not 'we' as would have been consistent with the rest of the song. I don't think we'll solve this, unless we ask Robb Johnson himself. Or perhaps Ewan McV was there that night in the Tron Bar? - Susanne |
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25 Jul 00 - 02:49 AM (#264105) Subject: RE: ROSA'S LOVELY DAUGHTERS From: Joe Offer Anybody got a tune and a songwriter name? -Joe Offer- |
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25 Jul 00 - 03:09 AM (#264110) Subject: RE: ROSA'S LOVELY DAUGHTERS From: katlaughing The tune is either the same or nearly the same as Will the Circle Be Unbroken, accordng to a tape, skw sent me. Also, according to that it was written by Robb Johnson, she mentions him above, and sung by a group called Palaver, which she also mentions. Did I miss something? kat |
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25 Jul 00 - 03:23 AM (#264115) Subject: RE: ROSA'S LOVELY DAUGHTERS From: Joe Offer No, I missed something, Kat. The harvesting has been plentiful today, and I'm getting bug-eyed. It does help if people put the song title IN ALL CAPS in the first line, and the songwriter name (in parentheses) in the second line - I added them in this song. It also helps if you don't use the <p> paragraph marks between stanzas, and instead put a line break <br> in every line, including the blank lines between stanzas. I had to find the stanza divisions all over again after I copy-pasted this song into a word processor. -Joe Offer, weary & bleary- |
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25 Jul 00 - 03:25 AM (#264116) Subject: RE: ROSA'S LOVELY DAUGHTERS From: katlaughing Oh, poor Joe, sorry...hope it helped some. I just recently received the tape skw sent me and am working this song up. Thanks for all you do in the harvest times, Joe. kat
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31 Jul 00 - 01:37 AM (#268356) Subject: Rosa Luxemburg From: Joe Offer Hey, I found a great Rosa Luxemburg link. Take a look - she was a fascinating person. -Joe Offer- |
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31 Jul 00 - 02:23 AM (#268369) Subject: RE: ROSA'S LOVELY DAUGHTERS From: katlaughing Wow, Joe, really interesting; quite a woman! Thanks and I willg et the tune to Alan and the NWc to you in a day or two. |
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30 Sep 09 - 03:32 PM (#2735236) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rosa's Lovely Daughters (Robb Johnson From: GUEST,Eugene Hi Had this song on the Roy Bailey album ''Never Leave A Song Unsung,'' brought home to me as a gift from Australia. It is ten years, October 1st 1999, since Amazon first stocked the CD, which is now unavailable. Would be glad to purchase a copy. EUGENE |
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30 Sep 09 - 04:33 PM (#2735280) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rosa's Lovely Daughters (Robb Johnson From: Susanne (skw) Eugene, if the album isn't available any more, would a copy be welcome? I've even got the original by Robb Johnson now. You can reach me at: skw at freenet dot de |
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30 Sep 09 - 07:00 PM (#2735391) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rosa's Lovely Daughters (Robb Johnson) From: Herga Kitty Information about Robb Johnson and his recordings, here. IIRC, he rewrote the "Slewed, stewed, skewed and awkward" verse for Pip Collings to sing when they were performing as a duo. He's written loads of great songs, and George Papavgeris recorded on Robb's Irregular label before he went to Wild Goose.... Kitty |
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01 Oct 09 - 10:50 AM (#2735850) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rosa's Lovely Daughters (Robb Johnson From: GUEST,Dai Jeffries Actually the 'Slewed, skewed ...' verse was the version recorded by Robb in 1987 and gave the LP, Slewed, Stewed, Skewed & Awkward, its title. It's now available again on Margaret Thatcher - My Part In Her Downfall 4 CD set. |
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03 Feb 10 - 10:53 AM (#2828839) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rosa's Lovely Daughters (Robb Johnson) From: amt01 I see this a very old thread - but also see the members are still posting - so ... I've bought the Robb Johnson version of Rosa's lovely daughters. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the Palaver version? I remember seeing palaver at the tron in edinburgh years ago - I thought they were great - but I can't find anything by them - cd or mp3. |
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03 Feb 10 - 01:56 PM (#2829014) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rosa's Lovely Daughters (Robb Johnson From: Cllr When Robb has sung the last verse he was referring to himself as Me I'm skewed etc ircc in conversation with robb. It was the female group who rewrote that verse which he agreed was apropriate when sung by women. The fact that it was inspired by Rosa Luxemburg does obviously detract IMHO about its validity of it being sung with reference to Rosa Parks as the later verses move to talk abour woman everywhere and includes the reference to the white house. Cllr |
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04 Feb 10 - 04:35 PM (#2830152) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rosa's Lovely Daughters (Robb Johnson From: Susanne (skw) As far as I know there is no recording by Palaver. I heard them do it in Glasgow more than ten years ago and, yes, it was fabulous. What a shame they didn't stick together for long enough to make a CD. BTW, amt01, where is it you live? Might be worth sending me a PM. |
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08 Mar 21 - 05:55 AM (#4096609) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rosa's Lovely Daughters (Robb Johnson) From: GUEST,Aileen Carr Hi Susanne I just noted that you said you had a live version of Rosa’s lovely Daughters by Palaver. I was in Palaver and would love a copy of your recording if you still have it. We were often referred to as Rosa’s Lovely Daughters as we sang the song so often. I look forward to hearing from you. Cheers Aileen |
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10 Mar 21 - 05:04 PM (#4097070) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rosa's Lovely Daughters (Robb Johnson) From: Noreen Hello Aileen, you may notice that Susanne's most recent message in this thread is from 2010 and the message saying she had a live recording of Palaver was from the last century :) While Susanne is still around I don't think she comes in to the Mudcat very often. I'll send her a PM to let her know that this thread has resurfaced. |
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10 Mar 21 - 08:09 PM (#4097094) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rosa's Lovely Daughters (Robb Johnson) From: Felipa Ann Coleman sang this song on Mudcat 8 March song circle, to the tune of Can the Circle Be Unbroken |
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14 Mar 21 - 08:51 AM (#4097571) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rosa's Lovely Daughters (Robb Johnson) From: GUEST,Susanne (skw) Thanks, Noreen, for trying to help - but I've forgotten my password and haven't had time to get it back so can't look at my PMs. But with the lockdown I've started looking in every few months to see how people are. Aileen, the (illicit) live recording is on an old tape that I've long been planning to digitise. (Hope it still works!) Made at Glasgow FF c. 1995, in the Tron bar - not even an official concert, I think, but a kind of singaround. I'll see what I can do. You can reach me at skw (at) freenet.de if you want to. |