27 Mar 04 - 04:30 PM (#1147769) Subject: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: michaelr Click for the 'PermaThread™: List of all joke threads'The despicable smirking bastard has outdone himself again, making stupid jokes at a press dinner in front of a slide show that shows him looking under furniture in the White House, saying things like "those WMDs have to be somewhere... no, no weapons here..." Meanwhile the death toll of American soldiers in Iraq approaches six hundred and is accelerating. I'm so outraged I can hardly see straight at the callous disregard the Resident and his henchmen display at every turn. Story is here. Care to excuse this one, Doug R? Disgusted, Michael |
27 Mar 04 - 04:32 PM (#1147772) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Donuel "Whats the difference" GWB |
27 Mar 04 - 04:38 PM (#1147777) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Little Hawk Well, I think it's quite responsible of him to check behind the White House furniture for those pesky WMD's... |
27 Mar 04 - 04:48 PM (#1147782) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Peace God Bless America. |
27 Mar 04 - 05:03 PM (#1147799) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Don Firth The man is a total twit! Don Firth |
27 Mar 04 - 05:55 PM (#1147831) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Amos Did anyone think he was more sensitive than that? Surely you jest?? A |
27 Mar 04 - 06:38 PM (#1147845) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Raedwulf Ummmm... I ain't no fan of GWB, but I'm not quite sure what the issue is here. It is clearly stated that this is an event where the Prez usually sends himself up. Any topic that he chooses is likely to wind somebody up. I don't see that he was being directly or deliberately disrespectful to anyone, Iraqi, Other, or US (& yes, I placed the Yanks last in that list - notice how the published outrage is only outraged about a perceived insult to dead US servicemen...). He is probably guilty of a bit of bad taste, but what this is really indicative of is the way that the modern media will happily blow something out of all proportion to the intention in the interests of making a story that will sell more copy. Especially when an election is looming... Yours, A Cynical Bastard (yes, about WMD too, before you ask) |
27 Mar 04 - 08:08 PM (#1147880) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Cobble The modern media dont need to blow some things up these arrogant ass-holes can do it all by themselves. Cobble (sub editor pa uk) |
27 Mar 04 - 08:08 PM (#1147881) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,Clint Keller Sending himself up? "Bit" of bad taste? Oops! 13 more dead according to this morning's paper because of ol' humorous George's amusing mistake. The joke sure is on him. But he's a good sport about it. If I had sent one man to death because of false information I gave I'd be filled with guilt and shame. I cannot imagine joking about it in front of their kin. And it's more than one; it's 500+ Americans & allies and thousands of uncounted Iraquis. This isn't bad taste, this is callousness to a pathological degree. clint |
27 Mar 04 - 08:10 PM (#1147883) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Cobble Well said Clint. Cobble |
27 Mar 04 - 08:13 PM (#1147885) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Cobble My last comment the inmates are running the asylum. Cobble. |
27 Mar 04 - 09:16 PM (#1147909) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,guest from NW "Any topic that he chooses is likely to wind somebody up." not true. if he's supposed to be funny and "send himself up" he's got plenty of personal foibles that could draw a lot of yuks. a little "misarticulation", a few of those goofy smirk poses, some jokes about how much a rich guy like himself knows about an average person's life, national guard service, etc. heck, i could've written his stupid routine myself! but when he starts making jokes about the lies (his lies) that have cost hundreds of american and thousands of iraqui lives then he's long past bounds of good taste. the guy is clueless, tasteless, and heartless. and i really don't understand how people hear stuff like this and don't think of the families of the dead. including the media morons who were guffawing at the dinner. no wonder this country is in the state it's in. |
27 Mar 04 - 09:36 PM (#1147918) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: SINSULL My nephew posted this to his website. "Neither Here Nor There" is his weekly column. Please excuse a proud aunt. Neither Here Nor There 3/26/04 The Joke's On Us I apologize for any grammatical errors in this piece. I'm limiting myself to thirty minutes to write the whole thing, editing and all. I'm mad. I want that to come across. Did you catch George W. Bush's performance this week at the Radio and Television Correspondents Dinner? Traditionally, this dinner has been a place for the President to poke fun at himself, his staff and his presidency. Past Presidents have cracked jokes about partisan politics, their legislative rivals and personal indiscretions. It's always been a good-natured, and usually benignly funny, affair. But this week George W. Bush poked fun at the fact that no one has found any evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. With a slide show montage of himself looking behind pieces of furniture in the Oval Office, George W. Bush provided the narration, "Those weapons have got to be here somewhere. Nope, no weapons under there. Maybe over here." The audience laughed. But not many people are laughing now. The most polarizing president our country has ever seen did it again. You see, what George Bush did was not only poke fun at himself, he poked fun at the fact that his railroading of the Constitutional process, his obliteration of the usefulness of the United Nations, his unilateral "with us or against us" cowboy bullshit has sent almost 600 United States servicemen and women to their deaths in a country we invaded for the specific reason of the threat from weapons of mass destruction. Don't be fooled by the Colin Powell/Donald Rumsfeld news conferences we've been getting hammered over the head with, those "Saddam was a bad man, we're better off" speeches. I agree that we're better off. But we weren't told that war was our only option because Saddam was a bad guy. Again and again, our President told us that we had to go to war to deal with the imminent threat of Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. There is a very big difference between these two lines of thinking. And for the President to now find humor in the fact that his number one cause for war turned out to be built on lies and faulty/doctored intelligence is insulting and demeaning to the American people. Imagine if, just a few months after September 11th, when we were still counting the lost and learning the names of the dead, Bush had cracked the same jokes, only this time saying, "Hmm, no al Qaeda under there. No Osama bin Laden behind this cabinet." Imagine the outrage. You done imagining? Good. Now tell me what the difference is between my little made up quote and what he actually said the other night. I can't find it, and I fail to see the humor. And for a President who has, at best, a questionable record when it comes to fulfilling his own military obligations, to joke about an ongoing campaign that has left hundreds of soldiers dead and hundreds more broken and shattered, is beyond offensive. I'll stay away from the bleeding heart liberal argument, that of soldiers' families losing sons, daughters, wives, husbands, mothers and fathers. There is an element of truth to that. But in reality, the men and women of our armed services signed up for their jobs willingly. They knew that there was a strong possibility that they would be put in harm's way. That being said, there are right and wrong reasons for having to step into a battle zone. We're in Iraq for the wrong reasons. People are dying. Our President is laughing. And there's nothing funny about that. Please read on. The following people have died as part of the war in Iraq. They were not in on the joke. Jesse A. Givens Sean C. Reynolds Jason L. Diebler Marlin T. Rockhold Brian K. Van Dusen Hans N. Gukeisen Richard P. Carl Cedric E. Bruns Matthew R. Smith Jakub Henryk Kowalik Jose Franci Gonzalez Rodriguez Nicholas Brian Kleiboeker Patrick Lee Griffin Jr. David T. Nutt William L. Payne Rashid Sahib Douglas Jose Marenco-Reyes Dominic R. Baragona Andrew David La Mont Timothy Louis Ryan Jason William Moore Aaron Dean White Kirk Allen Straseskie William T. Latham Nathaniel A. Caldwell David Evans Jr. Mathew E. Schram Brett J. Petriken Kenneth A. Nalley Jeremiah D. Smith Jonathan W. Lambert Keman L. Mitchell Thomas F. Broomhead Michael B. Quinn Jose Amancio Perez III Kenneth R. Bradley Zachariah W. Long Kyle A. Griffin Michael T. Gleason Atanasio Haro Marin Jr. Branden F. Oberleitner Travis L. Burkhardt David Sisung Doyle W. Bollinger Jr. Jesse M. Halling Michael E. Dooley Gavin L. Neighbor John K. Klinesmith Jr. Andrew R. Pokorny Ryan R. Cox Shawn Pahnke Joseph D. Suell Michael L. Tosto Robert L. Frantz Michael R. Deuel Paul T. Nakamura Orenthial J. Smith Cedric L. Lennon Andrew Chris Gregory E. MacDonald Richard P. Orengo Cory A. Hubbell Timothy M. Conneway Joshua McIntosh Tomas Sotelo Jr. Gladimir Philippe Kevin Ott Christopher D. Coffin Travis J. Bradach-Nall Corey L. Small Edward J. Herrgott David B. Parson Jeffrey M. Wershow Chad L. Keith Barry Sanford Sr. Craig A. Boling Robert L. McKinley Dan H. Gabrielson Melissa Valles Roger D. Rowe Jason Andrew Tetrault Christian C. Schulz Joshua M. Neusche Paul J. Cassidy Jaror C. Puello-Coronado Michael T. Crockett Cory Ryan Geurin Ramon Reyes Torres David J. Moreno Mason Douglas Whetstone Joel L. Bertoldie Jonathan D. Rozier Jason D. Jordan Justin W. Garvey Christopher R. Willoughby David A. Scott Mark A. Bibby Jon P. Fettig Brett T. Christian Joshua T. Byers Raheen Tyson Heighter Evan Asa Ashcraft Hector R. Perez Juan M. Serrano Jonathan P. Barnes Wilfredo Perez Jr. Daniel K. Methvin John Marshall Cheatham Heath A. McMillin William J. Maher III Nathaniel Hart Jr. Leif E. Nott Michael J. Deutsch James I. Lambert III Justin W. Hebert David L. Loyd Farao K. Letufuga Ronald D. Allen Jr. Zeferino E. Colunga Brian R. Hellerman Kyle C. Gilbert Leonard D. Simmons Duane E. Longstreth Matthew D. Bush David M. Kirchhoff Brandon Ramsey Floyd G. Knighten Jr. Levi B. Kinchen David S. Perry Craig S. Ivory Richard S. Eaton Jr. Daniel R. Parker Timothy R. Brown Jr. Taft V. Williams Steven W. White Eric R. Hull Kenneth W. Harris Jr. Bobby C. Franklin Kylan A. Jones-Huffman Michael Scott Adams Stephen M. Scott Vorn J. Mack Pablo Manzano Darryl T. Dent Rafael L. Navea Gregory A. Belanger Anthony L. Sherman Mark A. Lawton Sean K. Cataudella Jarrett B. Thompson Joseph Camara Charles T. Caldwell Cameron B. Sarno Christopher A. Sisson Bruce E. Brown Ryan G. Carlock Joseph E. Robsky Jr. Henry Ybarra III Kevin N. Morehead William M. Bennett Trevor A. Blumberg Kevin C. Kimmerly Alyssa R. Peterson Anthony O. Thompson Richard Arriaga James C. Wright Brian R. Faunce Frederick L. Miller Jr. Lunsford B. Brown II David T. Friedrich Paul J. Sturino Michael Andrade Robert E. Rooney Kyle G. Thomas Robert L. Lucero Christopher E. Cutchall Darrin K. Potter Andrew Joseph Baddick Dustin K. McGaugh James D. Blankenbecler Analaura Esparza Gutierrez Simeon Hunte Tamarra J. Ramos Charles M. Sims James H. Pirtle Spencer T. Karol Richard Torres Kerry D. Scott Joseph C. Norquist Christopher W. Swisher Sean A. Silva James E. Powell Stephen E. Wyatt Donald L. Wheeler Douglas J. Weismantle Jose Casanova Benjamin L. Freeman Kim S. Orlando Joseph P. Bellavia Sean R. Grilley Michael L. Williams David R. Bernstein John D. Hart Paul J. Johnson Paul J. Bueche Jason M. Ward John P. Johnson John R. Teal Michael S. Hancock Artimus D. Brassfield Jose L. Mora Steven Acosta Charles H. Buehring Joseph R. Guerrera Jamie L. Huggins Rachel K. Bosveld Aubrey D. Bell Jonathan I. Falaniko Michael Paul Barrera Isaac Campoy Algernon Adams Todd J. Bryant Linda C. Jimenez Joshua C. Hurley Maurice J. Johnson Benjamin J. Colgan Paul F. Fisher Keelan L. Moss Ross A. Pennanen Ernest G. Bucklew Joel Perez Frances M. Vega Darius T. Jennings Steven D. Conover Brian H. Penisten Paul A. Velazquez Joe N. Wilson Daniel A. Bader Anthony D. Dagostino Karina S. Lau Brian D. Slavenas Bruce A. Smith Rayshawn S. Johnson Francisco Martinez Robert T. Benson Jose A. Rivera James R. Wolf James A. Chance III Sharon T. Swartworth Kyran E. Kennedy Paul M. Neff II Scott C. Rose Benedict J. Smith Cornell W. Gilmore I Morgan D. Kennon Mark D. Vasquez Gary L. Collins Kurt R. Frosheiser Ryan C. Young Nicholas A. Tomko Marlon P. Jackson Genaro Acosta Robert A. Wise Nathan J. Bailey Joseph Minucci II Jacob S. Fletcher Irving Medina Scott M. Tyrrell Jeremiah J. DiGiovanni Ryan T. Baker William D. Dusenbery Eugene A. Uhl III John R. Sullivan Damian L. Heidelberg Richard W. Hafer Joey D. Whitener Sheldon R. Hawk Eagle Michael D. Acklin II Warren S. Hansen Kelly Bolor John W. Russell Erik C. Kesterson Scott A. Saboe Pierre E. Piche Jeremy L. Wolfe Timothy L. Hayslett James A. Shull Alexander S. Coulter Nathan S. Dalley Dale A. Panchot George A. Wood Joseph L. Lister Gary B. Coleman Damian S. Bushart Robert D. Roberts Jerry L. Wilson Rel A. Ravago IV Eddie E. Menyweather Darrell L. Smith Christopher G. Nason David J. Goldberg Thomas Sweet II Ariel Rico Aaron J. Sissel Stephen A. Bertolino Uday Singh Raphael S. Davis Clarence E. Boone Arron R. Clark Ray J. Hutchinson Jason G. Wright Steven H. Bridges Joseph M. Blickenstaff Christopher J. Rivera Wesley Aaron T. Reese Todd M. Bates Richard A. Burdick Jerrick M. Petty Marshall L. Edgerton Jeffrey F. Braun Jarrod W. Black Rian C. Ferguson Kimberly A. Voelz Kenneth C. Souslin Nathan W. Nakis Christopher J. Holland Glenn R. Allison Charles E. Bush Jr. Edward M. Saltz Stuart W. Moore Eric F. Cooke Christopher J. Splinter Christopher F. Soelzer Benjamin W. Biskie Michael E. Yashinski Thomas W. Christensen Stephen C. Hattamer Charles G. Haight Michael G. Mihalakis Michael J. Sutter Rey D. Cuervo Curt E. Jordan Jr. Ernesto M. Blanco Justin W. Pollard Dennis A. Corral Solomon C. Bangayan Marc S. Seiden Kimberly N. Hampton Eric T. Paliwoda Luke P. Frist Jesse D. Mizener Michael A. Diraimondo Nathaniel H. Johnson Christopher A. Golby Philip A. Johnson Jr. Ian D. Manuel Aaron A. Weaver Craig Davis Jeffrey C. Walker Gregory B. Hicks Ricky L. Crockett Keicia M. Hines Kelly L. Hornbeck Roland L. Castro Larry E. Polley Jr. Cody J. Orr Edmond L. Randle Gabriel T. Palacios James D. Parker Luis A. Moreno Michael T. Blaise Brian D. Hazelgrove Ervin Dervishi Jason K. Chappell William R. Sturges Jr. Randy S. Rosenberg Keith L. Smette Kenneth W. Hendrickson Christopher Bunda Adam G. Mooney Patrick D. Dorff Matthew J. August James T. Hoffman Sean G. Landrus Travis A. Moothart Luke S. James Lester O. Kinney II Cory R. Mracek Eliu A. Miersandoval Juan C. Cabral Banuelos Holly J. McGeogh Roger C. Turner Jr. Armando Soriano Seth J. Dvorin Joshua L. Knowles Jude C. Mariano Richard P. Ramey Thomas D. Robbins Elijah Tai Wah Wong Patrick S. Tainsh William C. Ramirez Eric U. Ramirez Bryan N. Spry Nichole M. Frye Michael M. Merila Christopher Taylor Jeffrey C. Graham Roger G. Ling Henry A. Bacon Stephen M. Wells Matthew C. Laskowski Michael R. Woodliff Michael J. Gray Gussie M. Jones Matthew G. Milczark Edward W. Brabazon Richard S. Gottfried Bert E. Hoyer Christopher K. Hill Joe L. Dunigan Jr. Ernest Harold Sutphin John F. Kurth Jason C. Ford Jocelyn L. Carrasquillo Clint D. Ferrin Daniel J. Londono Joel K. Brattain William J. Normandy Michael R. Adams Thomas R. Thigpen Sr. Tracy L. Laramore Ivory L. Phipps Andrew D. Brownfield Brandon Smith Ricky Morris Jr. Doron Chan David M. Vicente You think about that list, and you think about Bush's laughing, smirking performance the other night. You think about all of that when you head into the voting booth this November. More later Sullivan |
27 Mar 04 - 09:53 PM (#1147933) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Amos Thank you , Sins....it is very satisfying to see what has been a personal distress for many months suddenly starting to be articulated in the mouths of people who have more reach into the world than I do. The murderousness of Bush's militarism and his politics of convenience just makes me spit. (expletives deleted). Thanks again. A |
27 Mar 04 - 10:09 PM (#1147938) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Amergin Thank you, Sins...that is a good article...for everyone to read. |
27 Mar 04 - 10:16 PM (#1147939) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,pdc I had posted this on another thread, but following that article Sinsull posted, I think it may belong here. Please read it -- it's very well-written. Veterans against War |
27 Mar 04 - 10:25 PM (#1147942) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Bobert Gosh, between GUEST in NW and Sinsull, no reason for me to take up any one's time.... You all keep up the good work Junior Bush will keep up the bad work... Bobert |
28 Mar 04 - 12:30 AM (#1147989) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Peace Thanks, Sinsull. I feel like punching my computer screen, but it's hard to see through the wet. |
28 Mar 04 - 12:32 AM (#1147990) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Peace Don't Americans have a leash for that guy? |
28 Mar 04 - 01:08 AM (#1148003) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: katlaughing You've good reason to be proud, Sins, thanks for sharing that. Please, everyone, remember to vote and get as many friends and family as you can to also get out and vote!! |
28 Mar 04 - 01:34 AM (#1148019) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Blackcatter Ya know - the White House is actually more likely to contain WMDs than is Iraq. . . |
28 Mar 04 - 01:45 AM (#1148022) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Peace Lord knows DougR and I have had some go arounds, but I don't think Doug would condone that type of thing from the White House or the President or anyone else for that matter. That was implied on the post that started this thread, and I wish to state that I don't agree with the remark. I generally do not agree with Doug's political views, nor he with mine, but I perceive him to be an honourable man, and I would be less than honourable myself if I didn't say so. Bruce Murdoch |
28 Mar 04 - 07:51 AM (#1148129) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Strick Normally I stay out of this kind of thread since "weapons of mass destruction" have become a sort of Pavlovian trigger for some people. They foam at the mouth and respond, "Bush is evil! I hate him, I hate him, I hate him!" when ever WMDs are brought up. In this case all that happened was that Bush applied some self-deprecating humor to his biggest vulnerability. There are too many dead, but this is not how you show respect for them. Iraq was not only about weapons of mass destruction and it's easy to see who's really playing politics with the dead in this case. That's not why I'm posting. All you 'Catters who are not Americans, you Brits and Canadian, all you others, look at the title of this thread and see what it's saying. 500 dead. 500 dead Americans. Have you noticed? Coalition dead don't matter. Iraqi dead don't matter. Saddam's murders don't matter. All that here matters is American blood. This obsession with American blood is not a new thing. It's not a sign of rising Fascism, not just a conservative issue, if anything it seems (IMHO) more prevalent among American liberals. So long as we fight Clinton's kind of war where we sit a long way away and lob missiles to kill those we've decided to punish, who ever happens to be in the kill zone, everything's OK. It's like the violence in the movies and TV and video games that Hollywood insists on making, it's not real. "No Americans were killed in the making of this war" is all some need to see for everything to be all right. We don't see the dead, they don't exist. Nice and clean and antiseptic. This is what should frighten you, not some neo-cons in the DC Beltway writing white papers and running computer simulations that ignore political and economic reality. They're too isolated from the real America to count, lost in a fantasy. That will sort itself out. Their influence will self-destruct at their next call for their kind of war. What should keep you awake nights is that in the real America, we can make war so long as it's not us dying. We're working hard to automate our weapons, to take American crews out of our planes and tanks and ships so that we can use them whenever we want. Once we're free of that burden, who will we decide to punish next, when will one of our politicians decide to "wag the dog" to get out of a problem at home? Be honest: do you think that only one American party thinks America is always right and should tell other people what they have to do? Only one party plays politics with war? This is the real evil at the heart of America, that some people only see half the horror of war and accept war when that half's not apparent. And look, here it is wallowing in hate again. |
28 Mar 04 - 08:01 AM (#1148132) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST There is a plus sign after 500, Strick, and not enough room in the subject line for much more. That's what I (as a brit) read from that. |
28 Mar 04 - 08:06 AM (#1148134) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Strick Funny, I count room for another 15 zeros in the subject line. No room in the line for 10,000+ killed in the war? Or 100,000+ when you throw Saddam's butcher's bill in? Nice try, but that doesn't wash, Guest, and it's not just this thread that shows the attitude I'm talking about. |
28 Mar 04 - 08:09 AM (#1148135) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST "look at the title of this thread and see what it's saying. 500 dead. 500 dead Americans" It says 500 +, Strick, and it was the title of this thread you were talking about. |
28 Mar 04 - 08:54 AM (#1148150) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,Shlio Strick, that always happens. Just like you, wherever you live, get local news on your tv. On my news, I get news of a UK strike before news of hundreds dead overseas. Just because people are more likely to feel sympathy for those that they identify with. Yes, it's heart-breaking. But it will happen until people stop thinking about americans, iraqis and british, and instead recognise that we are all human beings. I can't see it happening soon... Until then, I'm just glad that people realise that these deaths are shocking. Sinsull, I am amazed. You have every right to be proud! |
28 Mar 04 - 10:02 AM (#1148190) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: katlaughing I sure don't see the word "American" in the title of this thread. We've had plenty of threads throughout the year in which many of us mourned the deaths of ALL involved in this shurbiasco. |
28 Mar 04 - 10:14 AM (#1148194) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Donuel Yesterday I filed to collect a reward for turning in the terrorist respondsible for 9-11. It was recently doubled to 50 million dollars. I submitted the name address and workplace of Donald Rumsfeld. It is a joke but with all earnestness. Who knows. if more people start doing such things the growing murmur will begin to embolden people within the system to defy the special orders office in the Pentagon. I am the last one to say I welcome a military coup but we have already had one in the form of a political neocon takeover of the military chain of command. There is a growing faction in the military to defy the Cheney Rumsfeld stranglehold on the Pentagon and CIA. There is talk of a mutiny. This may be the next event bigger than an election of presidents. Is a coup on the way, I don't know but this was recently said publicly by an American Admiral... http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/bushoath1.jpg |
28 Mar 04 - 01:14 PM (#1148280) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,pdc Strick, if you think that Americans only care about American casualties, for God's sake read the link at my post on March 27 at 10:16 p.m. It's written by Americans who have actually been there, who aren't spouting rhetoric or pious patriotism -- they are discussing the reality of war. |
28 Mar 04 - 01:14 PM (#1148281) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: dianavan Donuel - Exactly! If everyone took one small step of defiance, the Whitehouse would begin to feel the rumble. If the military decides to defy orders, all the better. It would be the final blow for the Bush administration. d |
28 Mar 04 - 01:19 PM (#1148283) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Peace Strick: "They're [Neocons] too isolated from the real America to count, lost in a fantasy." I usually am in awe of your thinking skills. Not in this case. Part of the problem we face with the NWO and Neocon agenda is the pervasive ability of the government to control media and other forms of communication. We are getting to the point where folks won't need to be brainwashed because a light rinse will do. You have more faith in the 'strength' of America than I do. The people are being made weak with a diet of lies and the obfuscation of truth. This happened before in other countries, and America will not be the exception to it happening again. The 'structural' integrity of the USA is being weakened by multi-nationals and the manipulation of money. The people are being fed an intellectual diet that is not healthy. I disagree with that conclusion on your part. Bruce M |
28 Mar 04 - 01:33 PM (#1148291) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: DougR Just two words, Michael, lighten up. It was a correspondence dinner. Presidents poke fun at themselves, traditionally, at that affair. You wouldn't think Bush said anything funny anyway, anytime. Just another thing to poke at. DougR |
28 Mar 04 - 01:49 PM (#1148302) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: michaelr As the person who started and named this thread, I want to state clearly that I don't believe American lives are more valuable than Iraqui's. In fact, I may have more sympathy for an Iraqui civilian who finds himself in harm's way without a choice than I have for a US citizen who chooses to be part of the killing machine. However, I expect the Resident to have no sympathy for those that are killed on his orders. I did not expect him to be so publicly callous about the sons and daughters of his constituency. As to Doug R, I don't know him personally and so have no idea how "honorable" he is. I do know from reading his posts here that he is an unquestioning apologist for this regime. Nothing personal, Doug! Cheers, Michael |
28 Mar 04 - 01:54 PM (#1148303) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,guest from NW "What should keep you awake nights is that in the real America, we can make war so long as it's not us dying. We're working hard to automate our weapons, to take American crews out of our planes and tanks and ships so that we can use them whenever we want. Once we're free of that burden, who will we decide to punish next, when will one of our politicians decide to "wag the dog" to get out of a problem at home? Be honest: do you think that only one American party thinks America is always right and should tell other people what they have to do? Only one party plays politics with war?" in total agreement with you here, strick. no, both parties have played this wicked game at times. the guys doing it now seem to me to be playing with a lot more fiery situations than any other past admin dealt with. all the more reason to get them out. by the way, the first administration to use remote control war was not clinton (tho he did it too). it was bush the first in the gulf war. also, on your other point you may note that my earlier post included american and iraqui dead references. i agree that it is evil to discount the innocent iraqui that have died in this sham. dougR, please refer to my post of 27 Mar 04 - 09:16 PM for some reasoning as to why michael and others may feel a bit disgusted at GWB's hijinks. and you know, you still haven't responded to my documented bush lie over on the " popular views of the bush admin." thread. just don't want to admit that your boy can tell a lie or do you think the line i cited is just a joke too? |
28 Mar 04 - 03:08 PM (#1148334) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Donuel A light rinse will do lol whoa thats funny Doug R. I know the National Correspondents dinner well, I have video tapes of the last 14 dinners and some were incredibly hilarious. I even made the last Clinton video shown at the dinner available on ebay available at cost until C-Span or some or another whacko threatened to sue me. Drew Carey was a hoot when he made fun of Cheney a couple years back. ************************************************************** But at no dinner had any President EVER BEFORE made fun of a war scenario in which lives were lost. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++= I would be happy to make a couple DVD's available for of these dinners to people who are interested. I checked and C-Span is no longger selling the oldies. Meanwhile I do not yet have the lastest Bush dinner. |
28 Mar 04 - 03:34 PM (#1148353) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: dianavan It would have been more appropriate if Bush had joked about himself being brain-dead. d |
28 Mar 04 - 03:39 PM (#1148357) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Metchosin Now if Clinton had looked under the table and said "Close, but no cigar," that would have been funny. |
28 Mar 04 - 05:39 PM (#1148423) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,Clint Keller DougR & Teribus: What I said was "If I had sent one man to death because of false information I gave I'd be filled with guilt and shame. I cannot imagine joking about it in front of their kin. And it's more than one; it's 500+ Americans & allies and thousands of uncounted Iraquis. " You're not listening. Doug, remember, Bush's little witticisms were broadcast and reported in the media. If a doctor prescribes the wrong drug and kills his patient do you think it'd be funny to joke about it to the victim's wife? Answer, please. clint |
28 Mar 04 - 05:54 PM (#1148433) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Jim McCallan Teribus hasn't been in this thread yet, clint.... ;-) |
28 Mar 04 - 05:55 PM (#1148434) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,Clint Keller My apologies to Teribus. That should have been addressed to _Strick_ and Doug. clint |
28 Mar 04 - 06:03 PM (#1148438) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: DougR What's the point of agruing about it? Those of you who are convinced it was a bad thing to joke about will never think otherwise. As to the weapons of mass destruction, we ain't through looking for them yet! (I started to add a :>), but I don't want anyone to think I am insensitive.) :>) DougR |
28 Mar 04 - 06:04 PM (#1148439) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Peace Doug, It WAS a bad thing to joke about. |
28 Mar 04 - 06:07 PM (#1148441) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Jim McCallan Where would you draw the line, when it comes to Bush's behaviour, DougR? Serious question. Jim |
28 Mar 04 - 06:44 PM (#1148477) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Damon Maybe giving the order to prevent airforce interceptions on 9/11 was overstepping the mark? |
28 Mar 04 - 08:17 PM (#1148542) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,guest from NW "As to the weapons of mass destruction, we ain't through looking for them yet!" the american task force that was looking for WMDs is no longer making a serious effort to find anything and hasn't since before david kay's report. check your news sources on that one dougR. "What's the point of agruing about it?" there is no point in arguing. however, reasonable people can discuss an issue, make points, cite factual information, back up their assertions with reasoning, and accept others viewpoints during the discussion as truly held but subject to debate. the key words here are "reasoning" and "facts". think about it. still waiting for your comment on the bush lie i quoted on the "popular views of the bush admin." thread. are you just going to skip it, thereby conceding it is indeed a documented bush lie? |
28 Mar 04 - 11:03 PM (#1148643) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: TIA DougR; I believe I asked you this months ago - exactly how long does GWB get to look for the WMD? If, in 5 years they still haven't been found, will you still insist that they definitely exist, they just haven't been found yet. I feel the same way about the tooth fairy, bigfoot, and leprechauns. |
29 Mar 04 - 01:57 PM (#1149218) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: DougR GUEST: Facts? The subject of this thread is the jokes Bush made at the Correspondence Dinner. It is a fact that he told them. It is a fact that some people disapprove of his telling them. It is a fact that some people don't disapprove. The poster ask for opinions, and he is getting them. Whoever and all: no, I do not think the sun rises and sets on George W. Bush. Sure he has probably made mistakes. Who hasn't? My main concern is I think he is taking the right approach to eleminating terriorism. Find 'em and exterminate them. DougR |
29 Mar 04 - 03:26 PM (#1149287) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,Clint Keller "My main concern is I think he is taking the right approach to eleminating terriorism. Find 'em and exterminate them." My main concern is I think he isn't. There are thousands of exterminated Iraqis & Afghanis who weren't terrorists. A lot of them weren't Saddamites, either. Was it worth the exterminated Americans & other coalitiion members? clint |
29 Mar 04 - 03:32 PM (#1149290) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Amergin To me it is akin to Richard Butler joking about the Holocaust... |
29 Mar 04 - 03:59 PM (#1149313) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: CarolC Problem with the way the administration is "finding 'em and exterminating them", for every one they exterminate, they create at least a dozen new ones. |
29 Mar 04 - 04:22 PM (#1149336) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Amos The deliberate extermination of humans who are not involved in waging war is called murder. Not a nice word, considering how many citizens were gulled into waxing enthusiastic about it, but murder it was. Who pulled that trigger? Why, it was George, I think. Or Karl or Donnie. A |
29 Mar 04 - 07:33 PM (#1149493) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Bill D ""My main concern is I think he is taking the right approach to eleminating terriorism. Find 'em and exterminate them."" good GRIEF!...if a 4 year old kid learns that cockroaches are bad, and you notice that he has grabbed a hammer, and is gleefully bashing every one he can find--even the ones on the dishes and on Mom's big toe....do you complement him and make damned excuses for him? Or do you set him down and forcefully make the point that there are ways to do this, and ways NOT to do it? Never mind answering, Doug, I know how it is...if a Republican president is 'in', he can do no wrong. If it happened to be a stupid Democratic president who decided to pull this stunt in Iraq, we'd be hearing a slightly different version of the value of this "terrorist elemination technique". |
29 Mar 04 - 09:47 PM (#1149549) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Raedwulf good GRIEF!? Good Grief! is the display of personal biases evident in responses to this thread. I'll say this again. I don't like Bush. He's an idiot at best, & this was in poor taste. So what? If you expect your president to be better than human, you're as dumb as he is & you've got the president you deserve. I have seen no evidence that he joked about the dead. He went "looking" for the WMD's that everyone's been getting on his back about for months on end. It was a joke. It was a lousy, unfunny, bad taste joke. Get over it. It wasn't a joke about the dead, it was a poor joke about the WMDs. I think Bush is an idiot (did I already say that?), I won't attribute deliberate disregard & insensitivity to the man on the basis of this flimsy evidence. I can imagine that he does actually feel quite bad about all the US dead (Hey, SINS, nice piece of emotive journalism you quote there, BTW, all those names... Yank ain't they? I'm more concerned by the fact that the majority of UK deaths in the war 'proper' were caused by one Yank tosser on a jolly in an A10 who never seems to have been charged with anything. Great journalism, fucking lousy Truth - some other asshole who's forgotten the rest of the world exists as something other than either a target or a market, hey...). But it seems to me that way to many of you who are so quick to condemn would be far worse Presidents even than the cock-up merchant that Bush is. Someone handed you a hard decision that was guaranteed to involve people dying, & you wouldn't know which why to run to get out of it... Kick the man (preferably out of office) for something that he's done (like lying through his back teeth), but spare us the indignation over something this inconsequential. This is a stupid faux pas that his PR people should have prevented. It didn't involve figuratively or literally putting a gun to someone's head & pulling the trigger. Go to town on him because he lied to you about WMD's, about the reasons for the war, or about the fact that he couldn't run a piss-up in a brewery, never mind a country (& that costs lives indirectly, far more than you've lost in Iraq), but FFS don't waste your time over what is literally a bad joke! |
29 Mar 04 - 10:16 PM (#1149562) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: SINSULL Yes R. All Yanks. In other threads I have made my opinion clear. Bush is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Afghanistan and Iraq as well as for the deaths and maimings of military personnel on both sides - also innocent in my view. They were placed in jeopardy under false pretences. I will be sure to see to it that the "asshole" is made aware of your objections. He is, as I said, my nephew and I am extremely proud of his accomplishments as a writer and as an insightful observer of human behavior. It is not necesaary to rant or say "fuck" to get my attention. I would probably give your opinions more credence had you not. |
30 Mar 04 - 12:12 AM (#1149623) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,guest from NW "It was a joke. It was a lousy, unfunny, bad taste joke. Get over it. It wasn't a joke about the dead, it was a poor joke about the WMDs." yes it was a pathetic joke. and it WAS about the dead (yanks and iraqi) because the people died due in large part to this prick's lies and misrepresentations about WMDs. and you're correct in that he should be kicked out of office due to many more serious wrongs. the only reason this is being talked about is 1.) this a chat forum and all people here do is talk about stuff (duh!) and 2.) it is a blazingly pure example of thr ignorance, insensitivity, cruelty, and heartlessness of the scum that currently floats on the top levels of our government. |
30 Mar 04 - 12:20 AM (#1149624) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,guest from NW and concerning your "just get over it" remark, check out this article about brit hume's similar remark on sunday which includes, according to him, not just oversensitive people seeking "victim status" by their claims of being offended but also the families of the dead. http://www.counterbias.com/news004.html |
30 Mar 04 - 12:29 AM (#1149625) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Amos Excerpt" Brit Hume, a conservative news anchor on the right-wing Fox News Channel, continued his staunch support for the Republican Party when he told critics of President Bush--including families of American soldiers killed in his Iraq war--to "just get over it", on the 28 March 2004 edition of Fox News Sunday. When asked on-air about the criticism Bush had received, from Democrats and families of American soldiers killed in Iraq, concerning jokes about non-existent WMD during a White House event, Mr. Hume unsurprisingly defended Bush, calling his harshly-criticized jokes a "good-natured performance". Mr. Hume then said of those critical of Bush's WMD jokes, including families of American soldiers killed on the premise that such weapons existed, that "you have to feel like saying to people, 'Just get over it'." |
30 Mar 04 - 12:45 AM (#1149627) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: DougR Nope, you're wrong, Bill D. Had Bill Clinton done what Bush has done, I would have applauded him. I am critical of him because he didn't! DougR |
30 Mar 04 - 12:52 AM (#1149632) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Amos What -- commit murder? Makes ya proud, huh? Geeze Dougie -- shouldn't we re-think this one? A |
30 Mar 04 - 02:11 PM (#1150248) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: DougR Nope, Amos, no re-thinking required. The only way to defeat terrorists is to go after them and eleminate them. We've gone down this road many times on the Mudcat, Amos. Nothing new. Had Clinton reacted to 9/11 the way Bush did, I would have supported him. Terrorism cannot be defeated by talking, begging, reasoning, or placating them. If anyone has a better suggestion for dealing with terrorists than elimination, I'd like to hear it. Will innocent people be killed in the process? Unfortunately yes. The terrorist attacked us ...not we them. They declared war on us ...not we them. If Kerry is elected, it will be the most disastrous thing to happen to the U. S. in it's history. Kerry will revert to the old democrat (read Clinton) soft approach to terrorism and that's the exact opposite of what should be done. DougR |
30 Mar 04 - 02:20 PM (#1150255) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Amos Well just to get this quite straight, Doug, the terrorists who attacked us were evidently a whole different kettle of terrorists than the ones we attacked. The connections between Hussein and 9-11 are nebulous at best, and certainly nowhere near enough to justify the deployment of millions of dollars worth of brute force. But we dove in, because we couldn't find anyone else to attack, having already bombed the bejeeze out of Afghanistan but apparently not with the success we hoped for - meaning an impact on the al Qeda network. Well, maybe we did unsettle them, I don't know. Kerry has proven he understands the use of force. Bush, as far as I can see, has proven that he does not. A |
30 Mar 04 - 02:30 PM (#1150267) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,TIA "Had Clinton reacted to 9/11 the way Bush did, I would have supported him" Bullsh*t! Your lines come straight from Rush and Sean, and I've been a regular listener for many years. Please give me a citation for a single republican or conservative or otherwise Clinton opponent who, at the time he bombed Afghanistan and the Sudan said "that wasn't enough, we need to invade to eliminate terrorists!" Nope, sorry, all we heard was "wag the dog, wag the dog, wag the dog". No offense, it's not just you, but there's a whole lot of support for party over principle going on. |
30 Mar 04 - 02:47 PM (#1150288) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: CarolC So, DougR, when Clinton responded to one of the terror attacks that occurred during his presidency by bombing sites in the country where the terrorists had their training camps, and he was accused of doing this to divert attention away from the Monica Lewinsky thing (remember - "Wag the Dog"?), did you support what Clinton did, or did you go along with the people who were criticizing him? |
30 Mar 04 - 03:16 PM (#1150320) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Bill D well, I can see there are a few differences about what "go after them and eliminate them" should involve....golly, Doug- with that kind of logic, a few of OUR well-placed WMDs could solve all the problems, huh? I tried, with the 4 year old metaphor, to make the point that everyone can agree that hunting down and eliminating terrorists is a good idea, but that selectively invading countries just because we sorta vaguely suspect them and the head honcho is a baddie is NOT the way to do it. Saddam was a nasty fellow, but so are 10-12 others in countries who like seeing Americans suffer...how many of those countries are we gonna invade? And how much are YOU willing to spend to do it? And----do you really believe that we CAN "go after them and eliminate them" this way, when every attack just turns more Muslims into willing terrorists? We are not fighting an old fashioned war where the enemy is in uniform and operating from known bases! Bill Clinton at least knew THAT much! |
31 Mar 04 - 01:48 PM (#1151126) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Kim C Not necessarily WMD's, but they were hiding something: War Planes in the Sand The President made a stupid, ill-advised comment, probably in an ill-conceived attempt to find some humor in a humorless situation. Everyone who's never said the wrong thing at the wrong time, please raise your hand. That's what I thought. |
31 Mar 04 - 01:56 PM (#1151132) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Bagpuss The "uncounted" Iraqi dead: http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ |
31 Mar 04 - 02:04 PM (#1151141) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,Teribus Interesting link Kim C, On WMD, just out of curiousity, it would be interesting to know what folks expect they are looking for, in terms of size, weight and volume. If you take the figures given by UNSCOM and the Iraqi's themselves as the basis, I think people would be quite surprised how small it is. Then remember that Saddam Hussein and his regime, who were past-masters at concealment and deception, had the best part of eight months to hide them. |
31 Mar 04 - 02:28 PM (#1151156) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Peace Kim C: Do you really like President Bush? |
31 Mar 04 - 06:04 PM (#1151351) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: DougR Carol C, TIA, nope, I did not support Clinton when he lobbed the missle on the Aspirin factory. I still think he was "Wagging the Dog." DougR |
31 Mar 04 - 06:21 PM (#1151364) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,Jim McCallan What dog is Bush wagging in Iraq, then, Doug? Jim |
01 Apr 04 - 02:23 AM (#1151646) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: dianavan ...or what Bush is the dog waggin' about, anyway. d |
01 Apr 04 - 03:06 AM (#1151670) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,guest from NW here is an exchange relating to clinton's "war on terror" activities from clarke's interview on tonight's MSNBC Hardball. it would seem that his activities were sincere according to clarke's read on it... "MR. MATTHEWS: Do you believe that Bill Clinton did his job as commander in chief with regard to the eight years you served under him in terms of preparing this terrorist attack? MR. CLARKE: Yeah, I do. MR. MATTHEWS: He did his job? No complaints? MR. CLARKE: Oh, I have complaints. I have a lot of complaints. MR. MATTHEWS: Let's hear them. MR. CLARKE: You want to begin with what he did do? MR. MATTHEWS: How about what he didn't do? Let's get some balance here. MR. CLARKE: He did not, despite the fact that it seemed pretty obvious to me, order the bombing of the camps in Afghanistan, except once. Now, when he did it the once, there was a huge uproar of Wag the Dog, and— MR. MATTHEWS: Sure. Because he was involved with the whole Monica mess at that point in time. MR. CLARKE: And, and, and because of that, I think he may have been reluctant to do what he did. But he said he would do it again if we got good intelligence about— MR. MATTHEWS: What about the Predator pictures we had of bin Laden down there in those camps and—we've got movies of them, in fact, at NBC—and they show a guy that looked very much like bin Laden and we had him in the targets, almost like in a movie, and didn't hit him. What do you make of the president's culpability there? Clinton's? MR. CLARKE: Well, the president's culpability is zero. The CIA's culpability is huge. The CIA required as a condition of doing that deployment in October 2000 that there be no weapon—no hit plan associated with it, because they wanted it to be an experiment and they didn't want to have to make decisions about command and control. We could have had submarines off the coast waiting for the Predator video. But CIA insisted that this just be an experiment to see if the Predator could find him." |
01 Apr 04 - 07:32 AM (#1151829) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: LoosanaJack The latest death count is almost 600. I propose that george bush move his whole family, up to and including his slutty assed daughters, to Eye-Rack and run for president there. OR, join the local army and fight for "his" country. |
01 Apr 04 - 07:55 AM (#1151844) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST "Had Clinton reacted to 9/11 the way Bush did, I would have supported him." "I did not support Clinton when he lobbed the missle on the Aspirin factory. I still think he was "Wagging the Dog"". Wow Doug, only about 18 hours between these two statements - agile mind you've got there. |
01 Apr 04 - 05:22 PM (#1152290) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Peace Doug is defending the President of his country--and I admire him for that. But Doug, Bush ain't givin' you much to work with. What will matter is the next election. All elections seem important, and given the nature of democracy, I posit that all elections are important. To quote a friend of mine named Crooter, "You don't get to vote on the way things are. You already have." Just be extra careful with your vote this time 'round. It means lots to the US--and the rest of this planet. Bruce M |
01 Apr 04 - 06:04 PM (#1152321) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST,Tim D M I have been saying for a long time that a weapon of mass destruction can be found at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington D.C. All Bush has to do is look in a mirror. |
14 Apr 04 - 11:16 AM (#1161483) Subject: bush and iraq From: GUEST,3erakie Bush has outdone him self. The good work he is been doing is realy paying off. He got oil tanks transferd for onlly $4 a piece, each day millions of it. He surtenly freed iraq and all iraqi people. saved the world from terroristes that might have WMD's in their little houses. What can i say he is really good in his job. And about the little problems in falluja you dont have to worry. He got some more troops coming. Besides he got the (terrorists) in his hand. He got some helicopters and F16 spraying the citys with some fire. Destroying the medicine centry and some hospitalls in iraq should help, so the wounded terrorists die faster. Shuting down the falluja grave place, so the dead (terrorists) cant even rest in peace. Having some troops put some toxic in the samara water supply, so the (terrorists) cant even drink healthy water anymore. Man i dont know if i should sum up more of his good work. As long as Operation Iraq Liberty (OIL) is in the house, its al good for bush and some others round here.. |
14 Apr 04 - 01:01 PM (#1161555) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Donuel actual picture of the end of his speech last night http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/bushapplause.jpg |
14 Apr 04 - 07:14 PM (#1161839) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: michaelr Going on 700 now... |
14 Apr 04 - 07:23 PM (#1161847) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: GUEST All in a good cause, though. |
14 Apr 04 - 07:54 PM (#1161873) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Peter K (Fionn) UK reports of the press conference have been including a sequence in which Bush was struck speechless by a simple question. (What was his biggest mistake post 9-11, and what had he learned from it?) After a painfully long pause, he said he'd have had a better chance of dealing with the question if he'd had written notice of it. Then after a further, agonising pause, during which he seemed to forget even where he was, he said that a response might eventually come into his mind, but that right then there was no sign of it. Incredibly, one BBC reporter said that such "candour" would probably play well with Bush's supporters! But surely there's a lesson to be learnt: that every Reagan should have a Nancy who can come to the rescue in those awkward moments. A strange paradox, though, that such a strong nation can find itself led by such donkeys. |
14 Apr 04 - 09:14 PM (#1161932) Subject: RE: BS: 500+ dead, Bush makes jokes From: Metchosin Perhaps Peter, the power brokers in the US have become so cynical with regard to the electorate, that the only thing they believe is required of their political figureheads is that they be somewhat photogenic. Maybe that's why they seem to be positively disposed to movie actors, at least some actors can ad lib as well as memorize their lines. |