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BS: New search technology by Google!

07 Apr 04 - 10:03 AM (#1156569)
Subject: BS: New search technology by Google!
From: Bill D

If you ever wondered how Google was able to keep its lead in the field, wonder no more. They tap areas no other company has tried.

check out the amazing way they have used nature to enhance logical algorithms


07 Apr 04 - 10:40 AM (#1156596)
Subject: RE: BS: New search technology by Google!
From: Morticia

another mystery solved....thanks Bill.


07 Apr 04 - 10:03 PM (#1157134)
Subject: RE: BS: New search technology by Google!
From: YorkshireYankee

Gives a whole new meaning to the expression "bird brain"...!

YY


08 Apr 04 - 01:05 AM (#1157212)
Subject: RE: BS: New search technology by Google!
From: JohnInKansas

Bill D

An interesting (well, to me) observation is that the Google site uses links to Google search results for some of it's "key point" references.

One of the results includes an article on how to "Hack Google" to improve your position in search results. A plausible explanation is given that by linking to this Google page or by including text references to this Google page (because it's an unusual search key, but is getting a lot of hits) one may improve their own "hitability" (i.e. make the pigeons peck their stuff, so to speak). At least three other sites have already appeared in the search results cited by Google apparently by applying this information - and I didn't look beyond the first page of results.

John


08 Apr 04 - 11:41 PM (#1157736)
Subject: RE: BS: New search technology by Google!
From: Bill D

John...I expect that search technology algorithims will be one of the defining aspects of life in this century! Locating and sorting information has always been a major item in scholarship and research......and to see it readily available to anyone with a computer, and to have it learn and refine and EDIT your requests is one of the most amazing bits of wizardry going. And this is a 'science' that is still in relative infancy! 7 years ago, AltaVista was mind boggling, now they barely compete.


09 Apr 04 - 12:28 AM (#1157765)
Subject: RE: BS: New search technology by Google!
From: JohnInKansas

Bill D -

When I first saw the "new technology by Google" I though someone had stumbled onto their newest lab release. eWeek just reported that the Beta is out for the "Google Personal Search," that supposedly tracks what you, as an individual, look at, to individually tailor results delivered to you.

Last I heard, a few days ago, was that it was being offered only to "selected users;" but it may be available from their "lab" site now if you ask for it. I believe it will not be offered as a general release for a few months though.

I'm not sure whether the concept is sound. I usually start out looking for something pretty specific; but always end up "checking out" a bunch of random stuff that just "happens to pop up." Ninety nine percent of what I click on in search results is just to be sure it isn't what I'm looking for, so if they tailor based on my clicks, they'll soon offer me nothing that I want.(?)

John


09 Apr 04 - 11:51 AM (#1157863)
Subject: RE: BS: New search technology by Google!
From: Bill D

yep, John, I saw something about that new trick.....I suppose that in some stereotyped searches, this new trick WILL give a few folks what they want. (i.e., searches for latest pop music)...but I almost never get 'exactly' what I want without the 'advanced' search page or scanning thru dozens of hits. In fact, the one thing I most decry is the loss of the ability to make word CASE a search criteria! Awhile back you could still do that in AltaVista, but the majors seem to have decided that no one uses CAPS anymore anyway!


09 Apr 04 - 11:59 AM (#1157868)
Subject: RE: BS: New search technology by Google!
From: Stilly River Sage

This article has been around for quite a while. But their new G-mail has been introduced (as a topic) only in the last 10 days. I don't think it is even operating yet. Has anyone looked into it?

SRS


09 Apr 04 - 01:01 PM (#1157923)
Subject: RE: BS: New search technology by Google!
From: JohnInKansas

Stilly -

The latest I've seen on the G-mail (searchable using G-strings?) is at Google Gmail at eWeek.

It's being offered now to a few "selected" users (beta testers?) and should be in general release "in a few weeks." The big "selling point" is that they offer free 1GB (or was it 10GB) storage, and claim you'll be able to organize and search your own email by "Googling" within it. It will allow Google to place popup ads in your email view but it's not clear whether you have to be connected to a Google site, where you get the email to look at it, or if ads will be inserted in individual email messages.

John


09 Apr 04 - 01:26 PM (#1157952)
Subject: RE: BS: New search technology by Google!
From: Bill D

gmail ....hard to tell how folks will accept it, but it looks like they will sure TRY this..


09 Apr 04 - 04:11 PM (#1158115)
Subject: RE: BS: New search technology by Google!
From: Stilly River Sage

Discussion lists will no longer have "threads" as people start using G-mail, John, they will have G-strings. :)

If they don't have a VERY GOOD SYSTEM FOR SPAM CONTROL they can forget my ever giving it a test run.

SRS


09 Apr 04 - 04:45 PM (#1158145)
Subject: RE: BS: New search technology by Google!
From: Bill D

System for spam control....international extradition treaties and the death penalty. That 'might' cut it in half...*sigh*


09 Apr 04 - 05:39 PM (#1158212)
Subject: RE: BS: New search technology by Google!
From: JohnInKansas

Although their 1 GB of free storage sounds pretty good, I think they are a little off with the "never have to throw email away." I've got about 4 GB of off-machine backups just from the past 3 or 4 years. (Of course it's mostly business, but we're a small home office.)

We do have to have a "real" account for the business, but she frequently just forwards stuff to my "free" account for backup, so mine could still fill up pretty fast.

The "no popups" statement at the site Bill D linked is slightly at variance with other (non-Google) reports, but this is pretty new, so a lot of the "pros" are probably still guessing what it looks like.

John