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23 Apr 04 - 08:22 AM (#1168888) Subject: BS: Newcastle (no longer) Broon Ale From: GUEST,Mr Red (who never drinks it) I heard on the news that they are ceasing production of NBA in Newcastle and moving brewing to Gatehead. Could have been worse - It might have moved to Sunderland................ |
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23 Apr 04 - 12:52 PM (#1169110) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastl From: Bill D just as well...it has become a weird 'cult' item in certain places when imported here in the US, and they are charging exhorbitant prices for it. Perhaps the move will be for the better...(hey...maybe they could 'outsource' production to India! Dip bottles into the sacred Ganges, add some alcohol and color....) |
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23 Apr 04 - 04:34 PM (#1169339) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastl From: DougR Horrors! Is this an example of "outsourcing" jobs? DougR |
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24 Apr 04 - 02:28 AM (#1169521) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: GUEST,John O'Lennaine "Gatehead Brown Ale"? Sounds as though it wouldn't taste as nice. |
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24 Apr 04 - 03:18 AM (#1169529) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Terry K student beer - strictly for amateurs. Double Maxim used to be so much better if you absolutely HAD to drink brown ale. cheers, Terry |
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24 Apr 04 - 04:01 AM (#1169540) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Mr Red strictly cider here. All brews with hops have that taste that does not appeal. I was just amused by the concept - now - is a person from Gatesheed (correct pronunciation) still a Geordie Hinny? |
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24 Apr 04 - 04:39 AM (#1169556) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Strollin' Johnny Branston Pickle's not made in Branston either. :0) |
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24 Apr 04 - 04:51 AM (#1169559) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: GUEST,eartling And there's not an ounce of "ooh la la" in Mr Kipling's French Fancies. Mon Dieu what's the world coming to? |
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24 Apr 04 - 05:06 AM (#1169567) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Strollin' Johnny Mann's Brown Ale was a good 'un. Thicker and browner than Newckie and tasted a lot better too. Been wazzed on it many a time. I remember one famous occasion in Great Yarmouth (but that's another story, and she's a respectable married woman now..........) :0) |
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24 Apr 04 - 06:32 AM (#1169608) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Mr Red If you remember it - were you there? |
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24 Apr 04 - 07:28 AM (#1169623) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Dave Hanson Where ? eric |
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24 Apr 04 - 08:19 AM (#1169646) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Leadfingers But they are stopping brewing Guiness at Park Royal - It will soon ALL come from Dublin !! |
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24 Apr 04 - 10:39 AM (#1169693) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Strick This is the kind of investigative reporting both our respective country needs. Clinton's responsible, right? Something he did or said years ago made this happen. (for if you can't make fun of yourself, who can you make fun of?) |
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24 Apr 04 - 11:49 AM (#1169731) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Mr Red Which one William Jefferson or Hammond (who doesn't the source of that name - I'll wager) |
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24 Apr 04 - 12:54 PM (#1169765) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Strick Your choice. I get into enough trouble with either one of them. :D |
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24 Apr 04 - 04:39 PM (#1169915) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Strollin' Johnny I think I was there. It was me who had to have the penicillin, so I probably was. :0) |
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24 Apr 04 - 04:49 PM (#1169929) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: McGrath of Harlow As outsourcing goes, this is not exectly long-distance stuff - see this map which shows Newcastle and Gateshead. |
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24 Apr 04 - 04:52 PM (#1169931) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Dave the Gnome I'm sure I posted a bit about Mann's here. Perhaps I have drunk too much of it! Not that that would make much difference at only 2.8% abv - Still a fine drop of beer though. Formaly made by Watneys and now brewed by Ushers of Trowbridge. Fine quaffing beer, long may it remain so! On the theme of the thread you may be interested to know, or not as the case may be, that the biggest local Eccles cake backery is now in Ardwick. Whatever next? Cheddar cheese not made in Cheddar...;-) Cheers DtG |
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24 Apr 04 - 06:54 PM (#1170000) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: John Routledge Mann's makes better "Beef in Brown Ale" than Newcastle. |
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25 Apr 04 - 04:07 AM (#1170256) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Georgiansilver And don't forget "Vladivar" Vodka is made in Warrington England..Not Russia. |
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25 Apr 04 - 06:33 AM (#1170313) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: GUEST,earthling And have you ever seen a Swiss Roll skiing down an Alp? |
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25 Apr 04 - 03:14 PM (#1170551) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Strollin' Johnny A very great deal of cheddar is made elsewhere than cheddar - I used to work in a cheese-dairy in Nottinghamshire where we made Cheddar and Cheshire! Should have been done under the Trades Description Act! Johnny :0) |
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25 Apr 04 - 03:41 PM (#1170571) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Raedwulf Not really. This is one of the things that pisses me off about those useless, worthless, faceless dickheads in Brussels when they start fussing along the lines of "You can't call it that unless you make it there". A recipe is a recipe, & it rarely makes much difference where it's made. Take all that fuss last year about Parma ham. If they were to make it in Parma using imported Danish pork, would it still be Parma ham? And, if so, why is it suddenly not Parma ham if it is made with (presumably Italian) pork processed in the same fashion in Denmark? Stupid! OTOH, alcohol is one of those things that is affected by where it's made, be it beer or wine. And one of my favourites is still Trent Mild, 2.7% out of a can from Tesco's. A very nice pint - drink beer for flavour not alcoholic strength! I find most super-strong (over 6%) beers sickly, frankly. Oh, & there's nothing wrong with a decent pint of Brown, Terry K! (Although Newkie, or Gatey, or whatever you want to call it, is no more than average). |
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26 Apr 04 - 04:14 AM (#1170969) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Terry K Don't get me wrong RW, if they ran out of bitter and that's all there was, I'd soon be drinking brown ale. In fact, for a bitter drinker, Newcastle Amber (pale ale) was the better choice - not too bad actually. But the students didn't popularise it like they did the broon, probably not sweet enough for them. cheers, Terry |
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26 Apr 04 - 04:48 AM (#1170998) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Strollin' Johnny I was joking about the Trades Descriptions Act. The smiley face was a hint! :0) |
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26 Apr 04 - 05:37 AM (#1171025) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: MC Fat To be a Bakewell Tart she doesn't need to reside in the town. |
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26 Apr 04 - 06:13 AM (#1171040) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Gurney Much Cheddar is made in by Anchor in NZ. Stilton never was made in Stilton, in the days when it was made properly, but on Leicestershire farms. 'British' brand shoes are made in Fiji. I once heard that a Japanese industrial area had been named 'Birmingham' but that was in the days when British was best. |
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26 Apr 04 - 06:16 AM (#1171042) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Dave the Gnome Here's another question. If you are in Bombay do you have to ask for Bombay mix? Or do you just ask for mix? I guess the latter, because if you go into a pub in Newcastle and as for a 'broon' we all know what you will get. (Aprt form a clip round the ear for taking the piss...) So, I guess MC needs to very carefull in cake shops in Derbyshire:-) Cheers DtG |
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26 Apr 04 - 06:52 AM (#1171062) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: MC Fat I'm always careful in cake shops in Derbyshire mainly due to an old scots mate of mine who after buying a bun asked the very lovely female assistant could he 'no have a poke' whereupon she slapped him on the face. A poke in Derbyshire/Northern England is a request for sexual gratification.... a poke in Scotland is a paper bag. |
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26 Apr 04 - 09:32 AM (#1171189) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: GUEST,sorefingers When I buy this beer in foreign places it tastes much the same as in blighty. I suppose it must travel well so moving it over to Gateshead can't make that much of a difference. |
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26 Apr 04 - 10:12 AM (#1171235) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Dave Bryant Are there any breweries who still produce a proper Brown Ale these days. The Newcastle stuff, although very drinkable as bottled beers goes, was never what I would define as a brown ale, which was more of a bottled mild. At one time it was a standard product of every brewery, but now it seems to have completely disappeared. Rather as some Bitter drinkers would add a bit more sparkle to a pint by having a "Light and Bitter", many Mild drinkers would order a "Brown and Mild". Brown Ale was usually slightly sweet and was wonderful for adding to casseroles and as far as I was concerned, indispensible for creating the perfect Welsh Rarebit. |
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26 Apr 04 - 11:34 AM (#1171310) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Beardy This is the second brewery Scottish Courage have closed in 3 months, following the Fountain brewery in Edinburgh. Although closing the Newcastle brewery they have bought Federation brewery a much smaller site and brewlength. What with their purchase of a 30% share in Caledonian in Edinburgh and selling Theakstons back to the Theakston family there are some strange moves going on in the ScotCo boardroom. Mann's Brown Ale is not brewed by Ushers as Ushers was closed in 2000. Its brewed under contract by Burtonwood for the Innspired pub group. Dave some micros are producing brown ales but usually named distinctinely rather than as brown ales and the image that is often associated with that name. Stewart |
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26 Apr 04 - 09:07 PM (#1171810) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: IvanB We had lunch with a friend today and, in the course of the conversation it came up that her father came from Sunderland. Then I opened this thread and found Sunderland mentioned in the first post. Inquiring minds want to know: What's wrong with Sunderland? Should we shun our friend even though her dad's been dead for years and we're thousands of miles away? Certainly wouldn't want to be caught associating with the wrong types, y'know. It'll hurt though - she's been my wife's best friend for years and is dearly loved by both of us. |
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27 Apr 04 - 05:18 AM (#1172042) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Dave Bryant "and selling Theakstons back to the Theakston family" I thought they'd only sold the brewery itself back, but retained the Theakstons name. Isn't the brewery now producing the "Black Sheep" brews ? |
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27 Apr 04 - 07:47 AM (#1172127) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Dave the Gnome Arrrggghhh - I didn't know that, Beardy! Another fine brewery fallen by the wayside... Cheers DtG |
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27 Apr 04 - 12:37 PM (#1172398) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: GUEST Newcastle Brown - Memories of college gigs in the late sixties and wading through puke after the show. Student nerds who used to quaff the horrible stuff, wobble around making prats of themselves and then throw up! Didn't Lidisfarne use the logo? |
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27 Apr 04 - 01:27 PM (#1172455) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: C-flat In response to IvanBs' enquiry "What's wrong with Sunderland?", nothing wrong with Sunderland persay (in fact my S.O. is a "mackem") but the rivalry, which borders on hatred, between the two neighbouring cities makes the notion of brewing "Newcastle Brown Ale" in Sunderland, unthinkable for both parties! |
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27 Apr 04 - 03:43 PM (#1172575) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: GUEST all this talk of newcastle brown ale being moved to gateshead. the impression i received was that production was actually being moved to dunston rather than gateshead. or is this splitting hairs |
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27 Apr 04 - 07:28 PM (#1172779) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: IvanB And, if the proper pronunciation is "Gatesheed," is that "Gates heed" or "Gate sheed?" |
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28 Apr 04 - 06:38 AM (#1173075) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: GUEST,.gargoyle Beers are a world economy. Irish Budweiser is made by Guinness and the dark, rich, Modello of Mexico is 40% owned by Budwiser.
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28 Apr 04 - 07:39 AM (#1173098) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Bagpuss Nothing wrong with Sunderland except that its full of Makems... I'm from Gateshead and I pronounce it Gyayts'd (but then us lot from The Fellin' are a strange lot). |
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28 Apr 04 - 08:06 AM (#1173117) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: GUEST,MR Red get erudite MC Fat .............. Bakewell PUDDING (which is almost as in your endo as TART). Obviously you never went into a cake shop in Bakewell and got away with either mistake! poke is the diminutive of pocket (I am told) hence the "Pig in a Poke" which was probably a cat anyway. So a paper bag (originally a cloth sack on would presume) looks like it all fits neatly - except when you let the "cat out of the bag" (same reference). |
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01 Mar 09 - 09:42 AM (#2578518) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Mr Happy Shock Horror!! Just discovered Pears Soap now made in India! |
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01 Mar 09 - 09:44 AM (#2578520) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Mr Happy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pears_soap |
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01 Mar 09 - 10:18 AM (#2578538) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: GUEST,buspassed So what happened to Newcastle Amber? Last bottle I had was in '75 at the bar of Hammersmith Odeon prior to seeing Joan Armarading in concert. |
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01 Mar 09 - 10:05 PM (#2578967) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Gurney Mr Happy, they never did make it from pears, anyway! On topic, would anyone call this "A Bridge Too Far, tha naaz." |
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02 Mar 09 - 02:52 AM (#2579040) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Dave Hanson Why are hamburgers called that when they contain no ham ? Dave H |
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02 Mar 09 - 04:25 AM (#2579083) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Mr Happy Dave, 'Cos they're meat patties originating from Hamburg, Germany |
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02 Mar 09 - 04:28 AM (#2579085) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Mr Happy Hmmmnnn, just checked out Hamburger origin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger Seems they originated from Hamburg, New York!! |
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02 Mar 09 - 04:49 AM (#2579092) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Mr Happy ...................as here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ6xBaZ92uA !!! |
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02 Mar 09 - 05:00 AM (#2579096) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Liz the Squeak Ah, but Dorset Knobs are still made only in Dorset! (Check it on Wiki if you don't believe the name!) LTS |
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02 Mar 09 - 06:57 PM (#2579787) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: bubblyrat Gosh !! All this scare-mongering has got me a-worrying.So I just nipped into the kitchen to check and -----Phew!! Thank heavens! My Worcester Sauce is still made in the eponymous city!!... Not so sure about my can of Waitrose French onion soup,'though. |
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03 Mar 09 - 02:01 AM (#2580024) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: GUEST,Foodie <pedant> Cheddar cheese is of course named after the manufacturing process of "cheddaring" not the place </pedant> |
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04 Mar 09 - 01:13 AM (#2580837) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Gurney Not according to WordWeb, Foodie. "First made in .... |
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05 Mar 09 - 08:43 AM (#2581724) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Mr Happy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheddar_(cheese) |
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05 Mar 09 - 08:04 PM (#2582225) Subject: RE: BS: Newcastle Brown Ale not made in Newcastle From: Bluegrassman Probably one of the best beers in the whole world is on sale at the beer festival at the Chequers Inn at Goldanger in Essex until Sunday 8th March, thechequersgoldhanger.co.uk It is draught Double Maxim, made just like it used to be before Vaux went bust. |