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28 Apr 04 - 03:32 PM (#1173414) Subject: BS: The UK and the EU Constitution From: Strick Other news keeps this from getting too many headlines out here, but clearly momentous decisions are being made in Europe and, in particular, the UK. What do you Brits think about this consitution and the thought of giving up some sovereignty in exchange for a more integrated Europe? Would the referendum pass if it comes about? Britain's referendum on the EU constitution |
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28 Apr 04 - 05:18 PM (#1173489) Subject: RE: BS: The EU Constitution From: The Stage Manager "Sovereignty" don't politicians love that word. I went on a two month tour through central europe shortly after the Berlin wall came down, and have been back for shorter periods since. What struck me was that a continent is in the throes of re-building itself whether the UK likes it or not. Some of the re-building is on a scale unimaginable in the UK. This is a club no-one can expect to join on their own terms. Get in or be left out. the re-building of Europe is already happening on a gargantuan scale Anyone with money to invest is already over there in the enlarged EU. I'm sure a lot of the competion who would love to see the UK come up with a No vote in the referendum. I think Brits always see the problem, never vthe opportunity. OK this is a household that speaks English French and German, has friends and relatives in both those countries, and reads 'foreign' newspapers. My Grandfather was Swiss and spoke and read in four languages that I am aware off. Also having lived and worked in Mainland Europe, and would be off tomorrow if the opportunity arose, I find it rather difficult to see exactly what it is the Europhobes are so anxious to keep hold of in the UK. I look at the rogues gallery that consitute the Europhobe faction, Rupert Murdoch for one, most of the current Conservative party, and I think to myself that if they hate it so much it's probably a bloody good thing for the rest of us. SM |
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28 Apr 04 - 05:20 PM (#1173491) Subject: RE: BS: The EU Constitution From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull I think its rubbish. john |
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29 Apr 04 - 07:00 AM (#1173919) Subject: RE: BS: The EU Constitution From: el ted I shall vote no. A united europe should not require any surrender of Sovereignty. |
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29 Apr 04 - 07:28 AM (#1173940) Subject: RE: BS: The EU Constitution From: GUEST,sorefingers England will reject it in a fracitonal referendum. Scotland and Wales will ratify it, hey who needs to belong to a withering union when you can join a growing one with far more moneeeeeey. Isle of Man Jersey etc will follow England to ecomonic suicide then later declare independence and join anyway. N Iron will line up half its citizens and exterminate them then declare war on China. "They wear red sox, they are communists" Rev Ian Paisley Bible Thumper and arch leader or Catholic murdering thugs, UK 1987. |