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18 May 04 - 06:44 PM (#1188049) Subject: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: harpmaker Is UK's food realy that bad? He's having a laugh, Is'nt he? |
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18 May 04 - 07:28 PM (#1188080) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: vectis Nope! Too many English restaurants serve hughly over-priced crap and write the menus in French to try to justify the enormously inflated prices. That's why Indian, Chinese and similar eateries are so popular. The food may not be a lot better but there's plenty of it and it's a lot cheaper. |
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18 May 04 - 07:53 PM (#1188096) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: woodsie If I want to fry an egg - I fry it. I don't need some jumped up herbert telling me that it's a skill or an art. |
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18 May 04 - 07:56 PM (#1188097) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Big Al Whittle definitely an art, and its oeufs frit to you mate! |
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18 May 04 - 08:30 PM (#1188123) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: The Fooles Troupe Actually, the British TV series 'Posh Nosh' is a hoot - only 10 mins an episode, but brilliant, especially on this line of thought about over pretentiosness in food. |
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19 May 04 - 04:31 AM (#1188297) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: el ted We watch it. Bloody good to see someone calling a spade a spade for once. |
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19 May 04 - 06:57 AM (#1188371) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: GUEST,An Ex- Chef Woodsie ............ what do you fry it in ........ Lard, there is a great skill in being able to cook properly, two people given the same ingredients and the same recipe can conjour two entirely different meals that could range from exquisite to inedible. If people can't see the different there's always McDonalds |
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19 May 04 - 07:03 AM (#1188373) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: GUEST,an Ex-Chef Furthermore I cannot abide the jumped up arrogant foul mouthed little b****d myself, The way he speaks to people is a disgrace they may not be particularly talented but you need to encourage people rather than just do them down, that's very easy. To encourage and nuture and develop and teach is far, far harder. Incidentally his sole contribution to the menu last last night consisted of an American flame grilled berger ....... my GOD how original ..... Oh Mr Ramsey please let me worship at thy feet |
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19 May 04 - 07:10 AM (#1188381) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: GUEST,An Ex Chef And his Yorkshire Puddings were not fit to be sent out into the Restaurant, I would have had my arse kicked from oven to pot room if I'd tried to send something like that to one of my clientele and I owned the company |
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19 May 04 - 08:50 AM (#1188395) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: el ted By gum ex chef! You are getting upset, he hasn't sacked you in his time has he? |
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19 May 04 - 09:44 AM (#1188445) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: GUEST,An Ex Chef Actual El Ted, you know me and NO he hasn't sacked me because I would never work for a person who was so destructive and rude to people. I watched the programme last night in horrified digust, I had apprentices in my time and they got a hard time but I would never, ever treat someone in that manner especially knowing it was going to be broadcast ........ or perhaps that's why he did it to bloster his own fragile little ego in front of the great British public. |
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19 May 04 - 10:02 AM (#1188462) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: el ted hmmmm.... an ex chef that I know??? You are right about one thing though, the people he slates are unlikely to get jobs in catering again. It must be terribly embarrassing for them, but good fun for the rest of us who watch it. |
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19 May 04 - 10:03 AM (#1188463) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: el ted Hang on! Is that you Nick? |
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19 May 04 - 10:14 AM (#1188471) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Dave Bryant I wish he had a wider and more artistic range of expletives. If his range of dishes was as limited as his swear word |
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19 May 04 - 10:16 AM (#1188472) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: The DeanMeister Baited breath.... |
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19 May 04 - 10:53 AM (#1188503) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: GUEST,Raggytash Curse you, you sleuth, Yes 'tis I, personally Ted I was disgusted at the way he slagged people off, especially the "Executive Chef" who although he might have been slightly worse than unless did not deserve to be slated on national television by a foul mouthed yob. As I said earlier, the only contribution to the menu from this "master chef" was an American Flame Grilled Burger ......... Mine are legendary by the way ..... ask Last Nights Fun about the one's they bough off me at Saddleworth a few years back. We've got wheelbarrows round Huddersfield that venue American Style flame grilled burgers |
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19 May 04 - 11:01 AM (#1188507) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: el ted God I'm good!!! I am bloody amazed at the naffness of some of these chefs though. I am quietly convinced that I could do better than a lot of the chefs shown in the series so far. But I suppose if they were half way decent that would make for a rather dull programme! |
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19 May 04 - 11:03 AM (#1188510) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: GUEST,MMario I find most "cooking" shows to ridiculous - they tend to use either ingredients that are unavailable to most; too expensive for most - or the "hosts" are obnoxious and ill-informed (exception - "Good Eats - he is obnoxious and well-informed. his writers should be shot though) Restauraunt review shows seem to think EVERYONE is on expense accounts - even the "beduget" ones tend to feature places where the average meal cost approximately my discretionary income for a week. Like the lobster omelet someone mentioned yesterday - Why 10 oz of caviar in an omelet? 10 oz. of caviar is more then most people would serve for an entire Buffet/reception! |
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19 May 04 - 11:07 AM (#1188513) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: el ted Keith Floyd was the best telly chef, invariably pissed and jolly, but the cooking became samey. My beloved who is an EXCELLENT cook, watches all the cookery programmes shown on BBC2 back to back on a saturday morning, and she actually takes notes!!! Saves me bothering I suppose. |
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19 May 04 - 11:15 AM (#1188520) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Stilly River Sage I know that the Frugal Gourmet (Jeff Smith) went down in flames a few years back (in issues unrelated to cooking), but he always gave good clear instructions and used available ingredients. I still make several dishes that I learned from his programs. Graham Kerr (the Galloping Gourmet) was pretty good, also, especially his one-pot dishes. Some of his substitutions for calorie-counters were a little odd, but it was always interesting. Martin Yan (Yan Can Cook) provided good information about selecting ingredients I found particularly helpful. (He taught me how to choose a good canteloupe every time--and it works!) SRS |
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19 May 04 - 11:26 AM (#1188530) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: el ted Don't forget the divine Nigella. I often cook Gammon in coke and onion which she demonstrated on her fragrant series recently. |
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19 May 04 - 12:14 PM (#1188567) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: JennyO I used to enjoy a Canadian cooking program called "The Urban Peasant" with James Barber. Unfortunately it hasn't been on lately in Oz. I liked the way he made cooking seem fun and casual - his favourite saying seemed to be "Use what you've got" and if anything went wrong, he laughed. He would have you drooling over a pan of tomatoes and onions simply because of the way he licked his lips over them. At the end he would sit down with a guest to eat his meals. I hope they bring this one back. These days I am quite enjoying "Ready Steady Cook". |
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19 May 04 - 06:16 PM (#1188886) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Herga Kitty The $1000 lobster omelet and caviar got coverage on this morning's BBC 4 Today programme. |
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19 May 04 - 06:25 PM (#1188899) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: GUEST With a white wine sauce? |
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19 May 04 - 06:44 PM (#1188921) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: harpmaker Ready steady cook! Every episode that I've seen, at the end of the show the guest's are asked to taste the food (exotic dishes in 20 mins') And when asked "what do you think?" they always say "mmmmmm thats fantastic etc". Makes me wonder how many times its actually dreadfull! Next weeks show is not to be missed. Gordon Ramsay is visiting a curry ship that has been sinking for the last 200years. Its managed by "Youno fromull" the famous karioki fiddler, & the head chef is our very own El(haddock) Ted. The curry is slung over your Tee shirt with (haddock)Teds guitar as you walk in, Alegidly. I wonder what else is on the menu? |
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19 May 04 - 08:12 PM (#1189036) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Liz the Squeak 10oz caviare in one ommelette? Bloody hell, who could AFFORD 10oz caviare?? Mind you, I'm pretty disheartened by what is taught at school these days. OK so double Domestic Science on a Thursday morning was the pits, but at least it taught me what I should wash, how often I should wash it (everything, frequently) and that I couldn't make custard. I didn't see the programmes, the trailers were enough to put me off and I spent 8 years in the catering trade. If our manager/chef had spoken to us like that, he would have found a new and interesting way to store carrots. LTS |
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20 May 04 - 04:37 AM (#1189360) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: el ted My haddock souffle is legendary harpy, you fat tart! |
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20 May 04 - 11:33 AM (#1189715) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Dave Bryant I can remember Margurite Patten (I've still got a copy of "Cooking in Colour") and Philip Harben . . . . . . . |
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20 May 04 - 07:50 PM (#1190262) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Liz the Squeak "And I hope all your doughnuts turn out like Fannys". Ah, those were the days!! LTS |
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21 May 04 - 09:48 AM (#1190710) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Madame P At Work Actually, what caught my eye over the three programmes I saw, was how bad the kitchen hygene was. If I was of a less robust attitude, I'd never go to a restaurant again! Gordon Ramsey is a loud mouth yob, but my guess is he's there for the 'car crash' factor. You know you shouldn't look but he always draws a crowd. Considering how many of Ramsey's eateries have gone out of business, I find it quite amusing to see him giving 'advice' to restauranters on how to run one! Hey ho, these reality t.v. progs aren't about actually seeing if they can turn something like a failing business round. They're about making 'good television'. In the end I feel very sorry for the restaurants that have been put through all this. The airing of the programmes could well ruin several businesses after they've gone and sorted themselves out! TTFN Lady P. |
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31 May 04 - 03:16 PM (#1197768) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: harpmaker Its on tonight 9.0pm. Just seen the preview, Gordon gets a slap!!! |
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31 May 04 - 03:35 PM (#1197783) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Megan L Ah, what would his granny say about that language. As to his failed businesses you dont have to be able to swim to teach someone else. Housewifery (ok I'm old) was not a favourite subject but at least every boy and girl in our school could cook up a decent meal, do their own laundry, change the fuses and wire a plug if we had to. There is a whole generation who thinks a recipe should read place in microwave for 3 minutes. Unfortunately many of them seamed to be working in resturants I have been unfortunate enought to visit while I was away. |
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31 May 04 - 03:44 PM (#1197793) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: John MacKenzie He cooks like an ex footballer, and swears like a current footballer, and what's more he's a prick! Rick Stein, Antonio Carlucci, Sophie Grigson, and Nick Nairn, where are you now that we need you? JGM |
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31 May 04 - 04:59 PM (#1197848) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: McGrath of Harlow The great thing with these programmes is that they help break the telly habit. And there are so many of them now that I'm finding myself with so much more time to spare. |
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31 May 04 - 05:12 PM (#1197855) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: harpmaker Hell's kitchen, was the programme, I got it wrong! But it did have Ramsay in it. I have to agree with you McGrath.........I thought the show was rubbish. |
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31 May 04 - 05:37 PM (#1197875) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Nemesis McGrath, "Deadringers" had it right this evening with their "Gordon" making such crap TV so that people WILL stop watching TV and .... go out to restaurants!! |
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31 May 04 - 06:53 PM (#1197940) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: harpmaker Nemesis you make an exelent point but, I thought all this terrible/crap TV was a clever attempt to make the masses to go for subscription TV. |
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01 Jun 04 - 01:36 AM (#1198158) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: George Papavgeris And now he's really hit the skids with his "celebrity kitchen nightmares" show. A cupboard full of mediocrities, with the dumb masses being asked to "vote" off people. This is the lowest form of entertainment, totally effing pointless (the celebs do not aspire to become chefs after all, so why the hell are they there), yet he pretends in all seriousness to be offering some sort of service "teaching" them... I was skipping channels when I came across that last night, and it was so bad, I sat fascinated for 5 mins befoe I resumed (it's the car crash factor again). One can have more fun examining toenail clippings. Anybody who prostitutes his art or profession this way deserves to be pilloried (not sure what this means, but I hope it involves VERY BIG pills and unusual entry points). |
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01 Jun 04 - 08:06 PM (#1198190) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Nemesis McG: :) Coming from an unintentional "Spiritualist" background ie., Gran dragging 11-year-old me off on Sundays to Weybridge Spiritualist Church ... it seemed to me then (and now) that "our dearly departed on the other side", whom we attempted to contact, seem to spend their (undead) lives doing precisely what we now do in our 21st century real lives ... hanging about pointlessly and passively watching the excruciating minutia of dull lives for entertainment ..erm, I'm not sure of the point I'm trying to make (at 1am in the morning) but along the lines of .... isn't it "scary" to think that IF the Spiritualist Church have it right, then we are now experiencing "Hell" on Earth and an afterlife of the same to look forward to (not)? |
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02 Jun 04 - 03:21 AM (#1198263) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Big Al Whittle no you gotta put it in the freezer first - then microwave for ten minutes - trust me I know about these things When the valium kicks in I'll learn something more complicated |
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02 Jun 04 - 04:33 AM (#1198310) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: GUEST,noddy he did not give himself the THREE MICHELIN STARS that was from those that like his work. And how so typicaly British that as soon as we get somebody who is at the top we slate him for it. Keep up the good work and press that button on the micro wave ! |
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02 Jun 04 - 04:58 AM (#1198322) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: John MacKenzie Nemesis, was that Weybridge Surrey England? Giok |
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02 Jun 04 - 05:38 AM (#1198348) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Nemesis That's the one! :)I'm sure it was Weybridge .. I know public transport must have been a helluva a lot better 30 years ago cos we used to go on the bus from Chertsey .. |
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02 Jun 04 - 12:49 PM (#1198645) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Madame P At Work Er MeganL, I would have thought the 'why' someone can't swim would be of high importance before saying that they could teach swimming. The same applies to Gordon. TTFN Lady P. |
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02 Jun 04 - 08:16 PM (#1198898) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Big Al Whittle I was watching TOTTP 2 tonight, and I thought he looks a bit like Howard Jones. Could they be related by any chance? |
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03 Jun 04 - 03:57 AM (#1198997) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Liz the Squeak Madame P is right about the hygiene - I was under the impression that you had to have a basic certificate of hygeine to work in a kitchen. Even Ramsay was guilty of some basic errors (licking a spoon and putting it back in the pot eurgh!) and I don't recall seeing anyone wash their hands before and after handling the meat. Mind you, I think I tasted the results - hospital food well deserves its reuptation. LTS |
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03 Jun 04 - 04:57 AM (#1199035) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: GUEST,noddy have you eaten any of his food? I guess not. Just keep complaining about how bad he is only goes to emphasise your ignorance. |
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03 Jun 04 - 01:24 PM (#1199440) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Megan L the problem is that people washing hands isnt good tv, I remember the same argument about Delia Smith and Hygene, they just cut those bits out |
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03 Jun 04 - 02:54 PM (#1199543) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: GUEST,van What's the difference between Gordon Ramsay and a croos country run? A cross country run is a pant in the country and Gordon Ramsay is a .... |
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03 Jun 04 - 05:57 PM (#1199649) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Liz the Squeak Noddy - some of us have rich friends..... I've eaten worse meals, I've eaten cheaper meals. They were something to write home about.... Ramsays' wasn't. LTS |
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03 Jun 04 - 06:19 PM (#1199673) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: harpmaker I had to laugh at guest Van's joke, Its great----but naughty! Liz, maybe he just cant get the staff!!! |
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03 Jun 04 - 07:00 PM (#1199715) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Liz the Squeak Hmm wonder why that could be....? Perhaps it's because he shreds their confidence like lettuce, has all the supportiveness of a bowl of custard and is about as sympathetic with his staff as the tenderiser is with the steak. LTS |
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04 Jun 04 - 08:47 AM (#1200132) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: GUEST,noddy if you cant stand the heat dont |
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04 Jun 04 - 10:54 AM (#1200261) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Big Al Whittle light a fart without wearing underpants....? |
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27 Apr 06 - 06:51 AM (#1728648) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: GUEST,pastry chef im a younge chef jus finished level 3 and all these messages are a pile of wank, i meet gordan yesterday and he was very polite and nice he knew what he was talking about and had a great understanding of food of corse he likes the fame and attention who wouldnt he dose relate to football alot but you can still understand what he is talking about. he is a very passionate man and i wouldent slate him cause i know that if i were him id be laugthing at the fact that you had taken time out of your lives to insult him. |
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27 Apr 06 - 08:01 AM (#1728683) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Strollin' Johnny Hope your scran's better than your grammar, spelling and punctuation. |
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27 Apr 06 - 08:35 AM (#1728694) Subject: RE: BS: Gordon Ramsay's kitchen nightmares, UK. From: Big Al Whittle do you reckon Geoffrey Chaucer just couldn't spell? |