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Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?

30 May 04 - 08:49 PM (#1197408)
Subject: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Cruiser

Is there an easy way to record streaming audio (music or talk) from Internet radio directly to a computer?

Thanks,
Cruiser
XP Pro


30 May 04 - 09:46 PM (#1197429)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: GUEST

Do a Google search on software to record streaming audio, there are quite a few.


30 May 04 - 09:53 PM (#1197431)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Cruiser

Thanks, guess I will need to by software. Any recommendations on the ones people are happy with?

Cruiser


30 May 04 - 10:18 PM (#1197447)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: wysiwyg

Total Recorder. Free and easy to run. Many hours of happiness. The paid version will break up the file into song segments for you. Suggest you PM IvanB.

~Susan


30 May 04 - 10:26 PM (#1197450)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Bill D

ummm...lessee...One called JetAudio will work...and dbPowerAmp...and StreamBox VCR (under MP3 resources...and he has other stuff)

and I think there are a couple others.


31 May 04 - 08:58 PM (#1198033)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: IvanB

TotalRecorder does the job, but it isn't free. The demo version will only record for 30 seconds. It's not very expensive, though (I paid $11.95 or $12.95 for it), and it's done the job well for me.

However, I believe those Bill D mentions are all free and they'll do the job too. I've used all of them, but I had already paid for TR and knew how to use it, so that's the one I've stuck with.


31 May 04 - 10:33 PM (#1198095)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: GUEST,MCP

Winamp has plug-ins to read Real Audio and Windows audio and plug ins to output Wav or MP3. I think you can still get free copies of this (but I haven't checked)

Mick


31 May 04 - 10:42 PM (#1198101)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Cruiser

Thanks to all for the good suggestions; they narrow down the proven products. I'll give them a try.

Cruiser


01 Jun 04 - 11:04 PM (#1198205)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: wysiwyg

Ooops, Ivan that's right. I forgot I paid for it! Twice in fact!

~Susan


19 Dec 05 - 10:25 AM (#1630558)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Stilly River Sage

I remembered this discussion from last year and am now at a point where I want to make personal CDs of seven hours of a program that was played on KERA-FM yesterday and is available now in one-hour segments (http://www.kera.org/radio/blockbuster2005/--the most intellectual, irreverent, beautiful, funny christmas show you'll ever run across. This was compiled from the archives because Glenn Mitchell died suddenly last month, age 55, on the Sunday before Thankgiving. He was the best talk show host around, bar none.)

BTW--in hour 5 is a beautiful version of Jean Ritchie telling a story then singing "Wondrous Love." I've written to the station to correct the spelling of her name in the playlist. The folks who put together the list were evidently getting their information from his archived recordings and didn't have all of the information about the performances. There are some question marks throughout the playlists.

I mostly bring this up to query the populace. Are the responses above still the best answers a year later? I have a recent full version of Nero, plus the usual programs that came on my HP when I bought it in February, 2005. Is there a program in Nero (WaveEdit?) that will let me capture the files as they stream and record them? Otherwise I'll explore the programs BillD recommends. I don't think they are there to download--that would be so simple!

SRS


19 Dec 05 - 10:33 AM (#1630563)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: JulieF

I use power record

http://www.blazeaudio.com/products/powerrecord.html

Haven't yet got round to sorting out the scehduler yet - only just getting used to having broadband - so I set it up and go and do other things.

Now all I need to do is to get an mp3 player for Christmas and then I can get round to listening to the stuff I've recorded.

J


19 Dec 05 - 11:34 AM (#1630597)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: open mike

when i logged on th wfdu to listen to Ron Olesko's christmas special
yesterday there was an ad for replay-radio software which is promoted
by that radio station. it is hard to tell by the web site what the price
is but you can find some info here. I have no experience with it, but
am considering giving it a try. http://replay-radio.com/
They have several products.


19 Dec 05 - 01:47 PM (#1630650)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Bill D

well, it seems that site I noted a year or so ago is no longer there...The programs ARE still around, however, if you search a bit...I'll see if I can find them.


19 Dec 05 - 03:59 PM (#1630717)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: GUEST,Mongrel

Audacity will happily record whatever output is going to your PC speakers.

It's free, and you can find it at http://audacity.sourceforge.net/


19 Dec 05 - 09:53 PM (#1630937)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Stilly River Sage

Recording from the radio is one thing, recording a streaming program over the Internet is another. I think. I've recorded to my computer from the audio system (cassettes, LP, radio, CD) and captured it with Wave Editor (a small program in Nero). That involves running a cable to the computer from the stereo's earphone plug. I don't know if I can do something internal and capture the online music. I know someone (WYSIWYG, I think) was working on it and doing some trouble-shooting a while back.

SRS


20 Dec 05 - 07:19 AM (#1631167)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Grab

SRS, any of the suggested programs will do exactly what you're after.

RM Recorder works for what I do. It has the advantage that it'll rip the entire streamed file as fast/slow as your link can manage, so you don't get varying sound quality depending on your link. It typically takes me 15 minutes to rip a 1-hour BBC stream.

The downside is that RM Recorder it only works on streams in single files, such as the BBC's "listen again" streams. For streams coming off broadcast, it doesn't seem to work. I guess then you'll be better with something that just records what's going to your speakers.

Also note that if you use RM Recorder then you'll need to export the results to MP3 or WAV if you want to do anything with them (like put them on a CD or an MP3 player). I use a converter by a company called Boilsoft, which does a high-quality conversion from RM files to MP3.

Graham.


20 Dec 05 - 01:10 PM (#1631502)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: JohnB

I did it for the first time last week from a BBC play it again internet show. Just opened Audacity and pressed record. It shows you the wave as it gets recorded.
Good Luck, JohnB.


20 Dec 05 - 01:28 PM (#1631518)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: PennyBlack

FyldeFolkForum - Recording Radio Programmes

above link to forum topic "recording internet radio" and Replay Radio (program like a video recorder for Internet radio, time recordings, repeat recordings etc.)

have a look it may be of interest

PB


20 Dec 05 - 09:51 PM (#1631828)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Stilly River Sage

Thanks, all!


21 Dec 05 - 04:31 PM (#1632422)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: GUEST,Uncle Jaque

About a year ago i downloaded freeware called "Audacity" on the W-98Se box, but never could figure out how to make it work.

Tried again this week on a newer XP OS, and it seems to be a lot more intuitive and manageable, although there is still a lot about it i don't have a clue about, and it does weird and unpredictable things... which it is probably supposed to, I just don't know how or why yet.

Managed to record from an old casette tape and tweak the audio somewhat (it was in baaad shape). Ultimately want to burn it onto a CD.

Audacity saves to an *.aup file, which is probably unique to this software. I can "Import" it as a *.wav, but in order to import as a .mp3 it needs some other whoozie i don't know how to get.

Tried burning these files and others to CD, but when I put it in the CD player... silence! Apparently all I got was a "data" disk.

Any suggestions as to how I might convert these *.aup or *.wav files to audio CDs?

Another thing; is it possible / legal to record streaming online "radio" and burn it on to a CD?

If so... HOW?

Thanx - UJ


21 Dec 05 - 05:24 PM (#1632438)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Amos

Look into a little utility called Audio Hijack -- it capturees audio stream from any source and saves it off to an MP3 file for you.

Most audio editors will import .wav files; .aup is peculiar to AUdacituy but it also exports in other format, I believe.

A


21 Dec 05 - 05:43 PM (#1632450)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: The Borchester Echo

Audio Hijack works on Macs but works only on Windows. It doesn't cost very much and is much easier to figure out than Audacity which is freeware but a complete nightmare to use:

http://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijackpro/


21 Dec 05 - 05:45 PM (#1632451)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: The Borchester Echo

Oops, meant to say TOTAL works only on Windows (it's the very thought of Microsoft that turns my brain to jelly).


21 Dec 05 - 05:53 PM (#1632462)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: GUEST,Uncle Jaque

Just visited the Audio Hijack site; this appears to be a MAC OS ONLY program - and I'm running Windows XP.

Don't need a lot of fancy bells & whistles, really; just something that works that an old dullard can figure out.

What was that "Total" thing mentioned?

Got a link for it?

I'm glad that I'm not the only one who finds AUdacity a pain in the rhumpus to use!

Was sorta hoping that they all were'nt that convoluted and inscrutiable.


21 Dec 05 - 10:20 PM (#1632595)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: GUEST,Bardford

For Mac users, Wiretap is a simple, elegant and free little program that records whatever audio is running through your computer. Saves as AIFF files.


26 Dec 05 - 11:17 AM (#1634906)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Stilly River Sage

Now that I have a few days to play with, I'll see what I can get to work from these suggestions, and report back.

SRS


26 Dec 05 - 11:29 AM (#1634915)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: cyder_drinker

I use "3alab iradio" with no problems at all.
The scheduler lets me record a programme to disk while I'm asleep or away, I can either burn it to a CD or dump it onto the mp3 player.
Only setback is it doesn't do realmedia (ie BBC radio) but works fine with shoutcast stations.

Link to 3alab iradio


26 Dec 05 - 06:01 PM (#1635137)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Abby Sale

Thanks from me, too. I was just asking how to do this at the club last night & here you is!

UJ: The Audacity download area offers:
Optional Downloads
LAME MP3 encoder - Allows Audacity to export MP3 files.

That should do yer.

I have Yamp. It gives about 75 free uses then explodes or you buy it. Fair enough it rips, records, dices, splices and translates mps to wav &/or back.


26 Dec 05 - 08:42 PM (#1635178)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: GUEST,Uncle Jaque

I got a little freeware "CD Burner Pro3" which will burn *.wav files to an audio CD, but won't for *.mp3 files.
Other than that, it seems to work pretty well.

How does one convert mp3 and other formats to "audio" tracks that can be played on ordinary CD players?

BTW; tried that stunt of jumping the earphone jack over to the line in jack. It does not work, sad to say (either overdrives or underdrives the recording software) and I have yet to figure out how to put online radio streams on to CD.


26 Dec 05 - 09:19 PM (#1635186)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Stilly River Sage

I had worked out some of this last winter, but alas, we had a burglarly and the computer and all of the peripherals went out the door. I have a new setup, but haven't plugged it all together yet. I plan to run cables this time from the better receiver so I can use the controls to make each cassette I want to transfer sound their best.

Kevin McGrath has a web page with this information and some program suggestions, but I don't know if he has kept it up-to-date.

SRS


26 Dec 05 - 10:07 PM (#1635207)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Abby Sale

UJ, I think the software that comes with your computer abreviatedly or commercial...Roxio or Sonic, usually, should do that ok.


27 Dec 05 - 04:07 AM (#1635288)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: The Borchester Echo

What of course you CAN do is plug a DAT or minidisc into the headphone output, dump the streamed broadcast into Pro-Tools and run it out as an .aif file to burn onto CD. Sledgehammers and nuts spring to mind but it works without the need for software which also requires a 13-year-old-to figure it out for you.


27 Dec 05 - 09:49 PM (#1635761)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: GUEST,Uncle Jaque

Thanks for all that; I'm still rummaging about in the cyber-bowels of this thing looking for programs that I don't even know about yet.

Although I don't have a DAT (nor do I even know what that IS!) or a minidisk recorder, I do have a couple of old casette tape decks about, which although not of stellar fidelity would probably suffice to make a crude recording, at least.

I like to listen to streaming "old fashioned Gospel" music while doodling with the PC, as it is not to be found on any local radio stations up this way, other than a little smattering of it in between hellfire and brimstone sermons and pleas for contributions on one of the Christian stations.

It would be nice to be able to listen to some of it out in the kitchen while I cook & attend to regular KP duties, where we have a CD player but no PC.   For that matter, we could put a tape player out there and dispense with the CD format entirely, I suppose.


27 Dec 05 - 11:39 PM (#1635827)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: GUEST,Dale

http://www.cihsfm.com/cihs/

Uncle Jaque, no help from here beyond what others have given, but here is a station for your listening pleasure.

CIHS (Wetaskiwin, Alberta) is a Christian based radio station playing a mix of old-time country songs that are pre-1970's. You'll hear from artists such as Roy Acuff,Red Sovine, Mel Tillis, Ferlin Husky, Porter Wagner, Patsy Cline, Loretta Lynn, and many more!

CIHS is also a gospel music station with a mix of southern gospel and positive country with some bluegrass sounds.

Above is copied from their site, I just added the (Wetaskiwin, Alberta). A very Canadian flavor mixed in, as you would expect. Biggest problem I have with them is the lack of ID. I have struggled at times to figure out the name of something I liked very much.

You'll think you stepped back in time when you hear CIHS.


28 Dec 05 - 08:28 AM (#1635935)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: GUEST,Uncle Jaque

Thanks Dale; I'll see if I can hunt 'em up on RealPlayer Radio!


28 Dec 05 - 08:01 PM (#1636347)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: GUEST,UJ in ME

Nope; no dice; can't even find 'em in a search.

I like that old "Negro Spiritual" stuff too; good luck finding that up here in Maine!

I have a little motto for one of our local "Christian" stations;

"All white, all the time."

Wonder if that's just a coincidence or what?

Come to think of it, I think the Station is owned by Southern Baptists... at least most of the Preachers sound like they come from down South.

But they don't racially discriminate.... do they?


29 Dec 05 - 06:04 AM (#1636572)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Garry Gillard

As Guest Bardford wrote, WireTap is great for Macs. Reminded by this, I tried very hard to get the free version 1.0 off the Web, but it seems it is now impossible. Ambrosia now offers WireTap Pro 1.1.3 for trial and then for purchase @ $19. As I lost my v.1 when my HD died recently, I've downloaded 1.1.3, and it is a pleasure to use.


29 Dec 05 - 07:06 AM (#1636600)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Nick

Uncle Jaque - if you have Audacity then recording off the radio should be very straighforward. I didn't realise you could do it till I read this thread but it goes a bit like this -

To record from radio stream

1 Find the channel you want recording
2 Open Audacity
3 Choose Mono mix in the box in the middle of the screen (may be on Line In by default)
4 Press the record button
5 That's it

To save them as wav files

Click on File and Export as WAV

To save as mp3 files

First download the encoder and save it on your machine somewhere as they recommend (instructions here). Then when you click on file you can Export as MP3

To burn your saved wav files to a cd

If you have XP then I'm sure you will have Windows Media Player. In Internet Explorer open the folder where you have saved the wav files. Select the ones you want to burn to a cd and either right click and 'Add to Burn list' if it's there (I think it's a version thing) or 'Open with' and choose Windows Media player. Once you have them open in WMP then you have an option to Copy to a CD or to Burn.

That's about it.

Thanks to Mongrel who pointed out you could use Audacity - I didn't realise until today.


29 Dec 05 - 09:31 AM (#1636653)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Abby Sale

Nick, thanx for the step-by-step. Very helpful. I haven't tried Audacity yet. Now I will. Lots of fine folk shows on Sundays.

UJ, RealPlayer also claims to be able to "burn a music disk." That is, create a disk playable on (lalmost) any disl player.

It will alternatively make a "data disk." Which is what you aleady have done - just copy the mp3s to disk, playable only in mp2 (& computer) players. I think this is the usual terminology.

NOW - can anyone tell me how to use Win XP Scheduler without logging on to Windows with a password? I hate the notion of having to password on to my own computer.


29 Dec 05 - 10:12 AM (#1636672)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: GUEST,Dale

Just click on the link I gave. Then on the left side click on listen now. Then click on the link that says http://cihsradio.wm.llnwd.net/cihsradio_live It is near the lower middle of that page.

Then the station will open up in Windows Media Player or whatever is your default player.


29 Dec 05 - 10:17 AM (#1636673)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: JohnB

I do the same as Nick, except I leave everything as is and record in stereo. Don't bother about trying to hit the start of the show in Audacity recording, just hit the red record button, click on your show and delete the unwanted dead air after you press stop.
You may also get a bette rsignal strength if you "Normalize" the recording. Simply hit "Edit" "Select All" then hit "Effect" "Normalize" and use the default -3dB, dah dah more signal strength.
If you want to listen to the programme through Audacity, just save the file as an Audacity project, it then reloads a lot quicker than a .wav file.
JohnB


29 Dec 05 - 09:31 PM (#1637051)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: GUEST,John

I love This One because I can just set it up to record my favorite Folk Programmes every week and as the computer is virtually on all the time (even when I'm out) it remembers and records them for me. They're saved as MP3s so don't take up too much room on the hard drive and I can archive loads of programmes on a DVD.

I believe the trial version is limited to recording an hour, but I was so impressed I bought a copy it's only $39.95 and does the job well.

cheers

John


29 Dec 05 - 09:52 PM (#1637077)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: GUEST,John

Just been having another look at the site and found this how to use "video" that may be of interest.

Link to Video (wmv)

John


02 Jan 06 - 03:09 PM (#1639803)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Stilly River Sage

I've downloaded Audacity, but darned if I can figure out how to get it to record the WAV file that I can listen to (but not download any faster) streaming from the station's web site.

I suppose I could move the computer closer to the stereo and plug from the earphone plug out to the cassette player, then run it back into the computer once it is recorded. But that seems a silly redundancy bound to lose quality, doesn't it?

Any hints?

SRS


02 Jan 06 - 03:26 PM (#1639818)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: JohnB

I know this isn't much help BUT all I did was to press the red button and it immediately recorded what I was hearing. You can tell it is recording as you can see the waveform.
Otherwise try "File" "Preferences" and try playing with the options there, mine seems to be set to a default of "Microsoft Sound Mapper" which is not actually the sound card which I am using for all other functions I do. (although I am not going to screw around with things that are working well). There is also a record and playback level control at the upper right hand screen.
Good Luck, JohnB


02 Jan 06 - 10:08 PM (#1640075)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Stilly River Sage

I did that, and there was some activity in the meters at the top, but I could hear nothing in playback. Maybe I'm missing something in that end of the operation. It looks like Nero's Sound Trax should also do this, but I am still at a loss with that as well. It is probably operator error--too many components, input and output, and I haven't thought my way through them completely yet.

SRS


03 Jan 06 - 11:30 AM (#1640395)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: JohnB

If you see signal strength somewhere, it could be that it is low.
Record something, then select it all using "Edit, Select, All"
Then go to "Effect, Normalize" use the default setting of -3dB, then try playback. By this time you should see visible waveforms in the bottom section.
JohnB


03 Jan 06 - 11:37 AM (#1640400)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Stilly River Sage

For the time being I've pulled out one of my Dad's little Sony recorders and I'll simply tape the programs off of the computer onto cassette tapes using cables to link them. The programs won't be available after this Friday, so I want a complete set of the 7 in one form or another.


18 Jan 06 - 10:56 PM (#1651348)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: mavester

I have audacity, and being a total novice, don't understand it.
I've installed the 1.0 version. Do I need to install the 1.3 version in order to capture streaming internet radio?

I say this because the 1.0 version doesn't have near the bells and whistles on the display page that I saw on some web site somewhere.
like on the 1.0 I don't see the drop down window in the center that says "mono-mix" or "line in."

Help?


19 Jan 06 - 06:17 AM (#1651448)
Subject: RE: Tech: Recording Streaming Radio Audio?
From: Nick

I would suggest not using 1.3 as it's a beta version - ie still in testing. Use the stable version that is 1.2.4b which is at Audacity main page

There are a number of screenshotshere
which include a shot of what it will look like when you are recording. You should be able to see the drop down box which specifies the source of what you are recording from. Experiment!

It works for me.