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17 Oct 98 - 02:05 AM (#42028) Subject: Lyrics to Dreams of Alwyn? From: Barry Taylor I have learned that the Irish song Isle of Innisfree is a 1950-ish update of a traditional tune titled Dreams of Alwyn. Has anyone heard of that tune? Does anyone have the lyrics? |
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18 Oct 98 - 06:40 AM (#42185) Subject: RE: Lyrics to Dreams of Alwyn? From: alison Hi, I used to have piano music for a piece called "the dream of Olwen", I think it was the title of a movie... or at least played in a movie. Slainte alison |
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18 Oct 98 - 11:13 AM (#42208) Subject: RE: Lyrics to Dreams of Alwyn? From: Martin Ryan. There's a vague ringing inmy head - its either a connection to the song - or the phone! Regards |
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23 May 05 - 06:42 PM (#1491627) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dreams of Alwyn / Dream of Olwen From: Jim Dixon According to imdb.com, THE DREAM OF OLWEN, by Charles Williams, was used in the soundtrack of the 1947 British film "While I Live." It's available in several recordings. I've listened to several sound samples, and they all seem to be instrumentals, with orchestral and/or piano arrangements—with one exception: there is one recording by the Luton Girls Choir. I wasn't able to get any useful lyrics from it, though. I'm not familiar with the tune ISLE OF INNISFREE, so I can't say whether they're related or not, but there's a midi file of THE DREAM OF OLWEN at this page. |
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23 May 05 - 07:12 PM (#1491647) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dreams of Alwyn / Dream of Olwen From: Malcolm Douglas This has come up in other threads more recent than 1998; the search engine will find them. There seems to be no connection at all with The Dream of Olwen, and nobody was ever able to identify a Dream of Alwyn so far as I remember; I think that Barry may have got the wrong end of the stick somewhere. We may be looking at a red herring on the lines of the mythical "broadside original" of Fields of Athenry, which also seems never actually to have existed. At all events, it's been gone into in more detail elsewhere well after this old thread was forgotten. |
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24 May 05 - 12:51 AM (#1491698) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dreams of Alwyn / Dream of Olwen From: Barry T I agree, Malcolm. This blunder has been well covered and well explained in other threads here at the Mudcat. The 'reference' originated in a harp listserv thread from 1996. It was wrong then and it's wrong now! Lesley Nelson-Burns (aka Contemplator) and I both got sucked in by the inference in that thread that the tune melody for The Isle of Innisfree was based on a traditional tune. Not! Let's not go around the horn again on this. I've done my best to chase down sites with my 'Alwyn' midi on them, and most have been quite cooperative in making the correction in favour of respecting and honouring Dick Farrelly's original (and brilliant) composition. The moral of the story: Don't trust the Internet as the authoritative source on the origins of music! If I had the power I would do a webwide search and replace on the mistitled phrase! |
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24 May 05 - 08:55 AM (#1491882) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dreams of Alwyn / Dream of Olwen From: My guru always said To continue with the Dream of Olwen for a minute, I confess that I was in the Luton Girls Choir & can probably transcribe the lyrics from one of my recordings if anyone was interested. |
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10 Dec 08 - 10:47 PM (#2512242) Subject: Lyr Add: DREAM OF OLWEN (Charles Williams) From: GUEST,Wayne Warmack, Rogers Arkansas, 10Dec2008 Olwyn, I hear you call to me At moonrise across a golden sea Softly the waves make melody To wake all my song of memory Olwyn come to me I implore Tell me where shall I find you Olwyn till the stars shine no more True unto you I shall be Deep is the blue that veils the night The light in the west has faded But I must pursue till dawn breaks through The dream I am dreaming of you, Beloved (Orchestral Interlude) Olwyn in the wings of the wind Fondly your voice is calling Calling from a world far apart And strangely you seem To answer the dream in my heart |
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11 Dec 08 - 02:12 AM (#2512298) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dreams of Alwyn / Dream of Olwen From: Big Al Whittle I've often wondered where the title While I live comes from. In the film the older sister (played by Sonia Dresdel) quotes a scrap of poetry but I couldn't identify it. It something that bothered me about twenty years ago and I never did get to the bottom of it. I no longer have the vhs copy of the film or the notebook that I was working in at the time - not to hand anyway. I did find out that the film was originally a play. The something garden.....ahhhh! |
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11 Dec 08 - 02:53 AM (#2512307) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dreams of Alwyn / Dream of Olwen From: VirginiaTam Film, While I Live is based on the play "This Same Garden" by Robert Bell. Cannot find anymore on Robert Bell. |
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11 Dec 08 - 04:04 AM (#2512352) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dreams of Alwyn / Dream of Olwen From: Genie Barry T., thanks so much for correcting the record. I've listed "Dreams Of Alwyn" as the tune Richard Farrelly used for his beautiful "Isle Of Innisfree" song when I've (often) done that song (or my parody of it), because that's what I had read (here). It's good to have the correct composer attribution. Genie |
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30 Dec 08 - 10:57 PM (#2528005) Subject: Lyr Add: DREAM OF OLWEN (Charles Williams) From: Louise Blyton Hi, I also wanted the words to this song, and transcribed them from the Luton Girls' Choir version on YouTube (which is quite lovely, BTW) as the ones elsewhere on the web are not precise. I think I nailed them all: Olwen, I hear you call to me At moonrise across a golden sea Softly the waves make melody To echo my song of memory Olwen come to me I implore Tell me where I shall find you Olwen, till the stars shine no more True unto you I shall be Deep is the blue that veils the night The light in the west has faded But I must pursue till dawn breaks through The dream that I am dreaming of you, beloved.... Olwen, it is your face I see That wraith haunting every place for me Music of vanished ecstasy That echoes into eternity Olwen, in the wings of the wind Fondly your voice is calling Calling from a far world apart And strangely you seem To answer the dream in my heart |
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07 Nov 09 - 02:54 AM (#2761318) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dreams of Alwyn / Dream of Olwen From: GUEST Bonnie bterchin@yahoo.com THank you Louise. I finally have the missing piece: the verse that begins with Olwen, it is your face I see..... I cry when I think of the beautiful song. THank you, thank you. |
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07 Nov 09 - 10:22 AM (#2761520) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dreams of Alwyn / Dream of Olwen From: GUEST,leeneia I clicked on the link to the MIDI file [supplied by Jim Dixon in 2005], and what I heard was Rachmaninoff's Concerto for Piano and Orchestra. Well, let me say that I'm 90% sure that's what it is. I tried to verify, but could only find an mp3 from the middle of the movement. Anybody who knows this concerto well care to agree or disagree? So, did they swipe Rach's theme for the song in the movie, or has Brian Olwen's website changed? |
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13 May 10 - 11:58 AM (#2906111) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dreams of Alwyn / Dream of Olwen From: GUEST,Roger Cairns Does anyone know when the Luton Girl's Choir recorded The Dream of Olwen? I see that "My guru always said" was once a member so if she can provide this and any other information I'd be extremely grateful. One thing has always puzzled me; why do the girls sing with a welsh accent when they're from Luton, Beds.? |
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14 May 10 - 05:14 PM (#2907068) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dreams of Alwyn / Dream of Olwen From: My guru always said Hi Roger, I've just checked the one LP I contributed to and it doesn't include Olwen, but it is on Count your Blessings, info here! Hope that helps! |
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07 Nov 10 - 09:33 AM (#3025835) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dream of Olwen (Charles Williams) From: GUEST,Alan Patterson I saw the film in 1948 in England where the title was "The Dream of Olwen".The title character is a young composer in Cornwall who eventually begins to sleepwalk because she is struggling to finish a piece of music. One night she sleepwalks to the edge of a nearby cliff;her sister sees her there and shouts her name.The sound of her voice awakens Olwen and the shock of seeing the raging sea far below causes her to fall to her death. Twenty years later her sister is listening to a radio tribute to Olwen and comes out with the line "While I live, you shall never die" |
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17 Mar 18 - 11:41 PM (#3911570) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dream of Olwen (Charles Williams) From: GUEST,dono The Isle of Innisfree was written by Dick Farrelly and published in 1950. It was included in the sound track for the movie "The Quiet One", however the lyrics used in the movie were not Farrelly's original lyrics. The song was sung by Orla Fallon in the first TV presentation of Celtic Woman. It can be found on YouTube. |
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20 Mar 18 - 03:24 PM (#3912104) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dream of Olwen (Charles Williams) From: fat B****rd FWIW My late sister's best school friend was called Olwen. My parents bought her, my sister, a 78 rpm of The Dream of Olwen backed with The Nun's Chorus by the Luton Girl's Choir. Even the mention of the title has me tearful (in a nostalgic way). If I wasn't such a tough guy I might even get a bit sentimental just now. |