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16 Jun 04 - 04:54 AM (#1208354) Subject: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Mary Lou Hi - does anyone have the lyrics to any of Stan Gee's songs, especially the one about the Wizard of Alderley Edge? |
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16 Jun 04 - 05:53 AM (#1208371) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: burntstump which Stan Gee? |
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16 Jun 04 - 06:25 AM (#1208381) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Leadfingers Do you mean Pete Coe's composition >> |
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16 Jun 04 - 12:24 PM (#1208681) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: John J I think (the late) Stan Gee sang the Wizard of Alderley Edge when he was a member of Bullock Smithy. Stan sadly died of a heart attack about 20 years ago whilst bopping at a local ceilidh. Stan Gee was certainly quite a character, deeply involved in folk song, dance, and music. He was an active member of the Derbyshire Caving Club and he was also involved in the local cave rescue team. John |
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16 Jun 04 - 12:32 PM (#1208686) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: burntstump Theres a Stan Gee living in Redcar who used to play the clubs, as far as I know he his still alive and picking. |
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16 Jun 04 - 02:43 PM (#1208773) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Ernest I bought a ukulele banjo some time ago from a man from Redcar - but I think his name was Geez. Decent man, maybe you got the name wrong, burntstump? Yours Ernest |
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16 Jun 04 - 02:49 PM (#1208775) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Mary Lou It is the Stan Gee of Derbyshire Caving Club fame that I am interested in. Thanks. |
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16 Jun 04 - 03:19 PM (#1208792) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST No Earnest - Stan Gee plays banjo, guitar and lives in Redcar, and is NOT called Geez. Ray |
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16 Jun 04 - 03:45 PM (#1208807) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Dave Sutherland Stan Gee of Redcar is playing at The Second Time Around folk club. White Lion, Beeston, Nottingham on Friday 2nd July in the company of Evelyn May. I havn't seen him since around 1973 so it will be nice to welcome him back. |
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21 Jun 04 - 10:05 PM (#1211790) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Jim Dixon See THE WIZARD OF ALDERLEY EDGE posted in an old thread. |
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05 Nov 08 - 02:55 PM (#2485858) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Matt Smith Just for the record there definitely was a Stan Gee who came from Stockport and played in a folk group called Bullock Smithy back in the late 70s/early 80s. He was a great friend of my father and I knew him very well when I was a child - a real character indeed! |
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05 Nov 08 - 03:06 PM (#2485866) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Tim Leaning Stan Gee was alive and kicking and running a new music evening in Helmsley earlier this year. Was a nice night though he did say I have avoice like a foghorn! LOL I think his penchant was for the americana ideom. |Guess there are several Stan Gee's |
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05 Nov 08 - 04:21 PM (#2485939) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Ernest Here is one GUEST Ray was right - I had the name wrong. Best Ernest |
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06 Nov 08 - 05:21 AM (#2486361) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Ray The Stan Gee you want is definitely the, now deceased, one from Stockport. He was an old mate of mine and his musical compatriot, Arthur Ball, went to school with my father. I'm not aware that Stan ever wrote a song in his life. Stan had an interest in Alderley Edge because of his connections with caving - he used to take tours around the old mines on the edge - Wood Mine and West Mine - I Know; I've been with him! Can't be sure but a few of the Alderley and Wizard songs might have been written by "Joe" Beard - of Granny Takes A Trip fame (or is it infamy?) he used to live in Higher Poynton and if anyone can dig him out of the woodwork, I'd be interested to know. Ray |
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06 Nov 08 - 05:29 AM (#2486364) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Les in Chorlton Stan Gee of Stockport was, as described above, a singer, melodeon player, Morris musician, Caver and some would say part-time Satanist but that may have simply been a rumour he encouraged. He died at the Ceilidh following the Saturday night of Gorton Rushcart around 1983 (?). I have a book of hiking songs put together by him. If I can find it I will check for Wizzardly songs. Chiz L in C |
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06 Nov 08 - 05:32 AM (#2486368) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Les in Chorlton How about this then: Stan the Reseacher |
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06 Nov 08 - 05:39 AM (#2486372) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Les in Chorlton And this is a bit interesting: Greater Manchester County Records Office Chiz L in C |
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06 Nov 08 - 05:56 AM (#2486375) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Les in Chorlton Sorry, try page 5 in that GMCRO document |
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06 Nov 08 - 06:07 AM (#2486380) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: John J That's our Stan! He would travel to Northern Italy with Arthur Ball most summers for walking, caving, and folk type stuff. His involvement with (white) witchcraft was quite interesting - he once tried to stop the rain outside the Rising Sun in Hazel Grove (the modern name for the area formerly known as Bullock Smithy) so the 'Old Ball' Easter Play could be performed outside. It didn't work - it just rained all the more heavily. Stan took a lot of stick for that one - all in good humour! I played with Stan for a long while: musicianing for Fidler's Fancy, for a short time as resident with Stan at Heaton Moor Rugby Club F.C. and loads of other stuff too. He was and is a legend and is sorely missed. They don't make 'em like that any more! JJ |
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06 Nov 08 - 11:00 AM (#2486606) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Bryn Pugh I had the privilege of knowing Stan from the vibrant Stockport 'scene' of the mid to late 1960s. The 'Satanist' canard is untrue - Stan, to my knowledge, was certainly a neo-Pagan. His Path was not that of Wicca - my Path - it tended to favour more the worship of the All Father. I certainly miss him. As John J says, above, they don't make 'em like that any more. A real one-off. Blessings, Stan,. and All. |
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06 Nov 08 - 11:24 AM (#2486623) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Ray I once ran into him in Lyme Park (those who need to know will know where that is) on a snowy day. Stan had skived off work form his job at Mirlees and was wearing the most antique pair of skis you could imagine. When I saw him a week or so later, his leg was in plaster and he'd had a terrible time explaining it to the boss. Nobody know the current whereabouts of Joe Beard?? Ray |
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06 Nov 08 - 07:48 PM (#2487022) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: John J Don't know about Joe Beard, but Stan's skiing accident still raises a chuckle around here! JJ |
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07 Nov 08 - 05:56 AM (#2487339) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST This Joe beard? http://www.macclesfieldconservatives.com/page/26/ |
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07 Nov 08 - 05:59 AM (#2487343) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Les in Chorlton Who? |
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07 Nov 08 - 05:59 AM (#2487345) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Les in Chorlton I find this deeply disturbing L in C |
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07 Nov 08 - 06:03 AM (#2487347) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST Disturbing is the word. Unless he's a fifth-columnist!
Thanks. -Joe Offer- |
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07 Nov 08 - 01:30 PM (#2487769) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Ray Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry,Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry,Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry,Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry,Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry, Sorry! Thats him, I had no idea. The worm appears to have turned! All we need to know now is the identity of the anonymous guest who found him. Come on own up. Ray |
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02 Feb 09 - 05:09 PM (#2555568) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Tim (Rochdale) Just in case anyone is actually interested in the answer to the original question, here they are from the rootsweb site : http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CHESHIRE/2006-05/1148287690 I can remember the tune of the chorus, but not the main verses - I don't think it was the same. Strange how you get sidetracked. I actually found this thread looking to see what had happened to a Joe Beard from whom I purchased a Fylde guitar about 30 years ago. Still got it. No. 309. |
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03 Feb 09 - 12:45 PM (#2556281) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Ray Oops...... Probably nicked! |
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11 Jan 10 - 04:21 AM (#2808857) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: Edgware I found the details about Stan Gee informative. As an aside does anybody know the names of the other members of Bullock Smithy? I first heard this group as part of a 'Folkweave' session entitled 'Hearken Unto The Witches Rune' which also involved a singer called Christine Wilkinson. Does anybody have info about her? |
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11 Jan 10 - 05:25 AM (#2808879) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Ray I remember the name but I don't think she was a regular member of Bullock Smithy. Difficult to remember names from so long ago - apart from Arthur Ball who was at school with my father so he should be around 84 if he's still with us. |
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11 Jan 10 - 06:54 AM (#2808913) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,John J I've not seen Christine for some years, she had a lovely voice. I imagine she's still in the area. Arthur Ball - who also performed in Bullock Smithy was living in Mossley. One of his sons, Ian (who I think may have done the odd gig with Bullock Smithy, and certainly played in RamJam) can be contacted through his website . JJ |
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12 Jan 10 - 04:00 AM (#2809777) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,John J I think Eaby (sp?) played in Bullock Smithy, I saw him at a Poynton Ceilidh about 10-12 years ago. He had moved to Ireland. The was another in that circle of friends, Trevor, who I think performed in Bullock Smithy. I'm certain he musicianed for Poynton Jemmers. Trevor sadly died about 30 years ago. Gawd I'm getting old! JJ |
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07 Feb 10 - 07:06 PM (#2832568) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Ian g About 5 years ago. Joe had reformed purple gang. A group known for the 60s song. Granny takes a trip. Banned by the bbc at the time. |
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14 Jan 11 - 07:45 AM (#3074335) Subject: Loony weekends From: GUEST,Matt Smith I was really surprised to come back and see all the new posts, as there had been a 4 year gap before I posted in Nov 2008, so I thought this thread would have well and truly died! It was great to read other comments from those who also remember Stan Gee and Bullock Smithy with fond affection. He was a great friend of my late father (Pete Smith or 'Smig' as he was known) who was also one of the founder members of the Derbyshire Caving Club, after they split away from the Orpheus in 1959. I gather it wasn't the most amicable parting of ways at the time, but that's another story!... The thing I remember most about Stan was the 'Loony Weekends' that he and a few others organised in Wetton, a small village on the Derbyshire/Staffordshire border, during the late 70s/early 80s. They hired out the back room of the Royal Oak pub for the band to perform in and it was always a great night. As others have mentioned, along with Stan there was Trevor, Arthur Ball and young lass named Christine, who had a great voice, but I can't remember who provided percussion?? There was always a walk on the Saturday, which was usually around the Manifold Valley and often stopped off for a few beers at the Cavalier Pub in Grindon. I remember one occasion when Stan's poor old dog 'Boot' couldn't make it back up the hill and he had to carry him the rest of the way in the rucksack! Whilst I appreciate this has got nothing to do with the original post (6 years ago!), it would be great to hear from anyone else who also has fond memories of the the Loony weekends. It was 30 years ago, but I can remember them like it was yesterday! Cheers, Matt Smith. |
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29 Apr 11 - 09:03 PM (#3145049) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,pete bristow my dad was trevor cowdrey, who played mainly mandolin for bullock smithy. great days of my childhood! |
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30 Apr 11 - 06:56 AM (#3145204) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: John J I recall Stan's incredibly loony weekends down the road from the Royal Oak, at the George in Alstonfield...in fact I'm still suffering from the hangovers 30+ years later! JJ |
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30 Sep 11 - 08:30 PM (#3231979) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Dave Ball Fun reading these comments, the bits of information that have become slightly twisted and lost abit of reality and the other bits that are just, well,not true and really funny. Arthur ball was my dad and I'm sorry to say passed away on Thursday 29th Sept. 2011. I also remember the loony weekends, Trevor Cowdrey taught me to ride a motorbike, I went to school with his son, Moseley Hall. Stan Gee was best man at my dads wedding, so I new him all my life. As has been said many times before, a one off.Stan did write songs, along with alot of research into local customs and folklore.As well as the skiing in lime park. Along with others in the caving club he built sledges with car headlamps fitted to sledge at night down from the cage towards the main gate.With the caving club and Bullock smithy, there are an awful lot of very happy memories. Dave Ball |
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01 Oct 11 - 09:43 AM (#3232165) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: John J Bloody hell Dave, I thought you had emigrated to the moon or something! I trust you're well, please get in touch. If you join Mudcat (free - and you don't get crap appearing in your inbox) you can send me a PM. John (aka JBoy) |
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02 Oct 11 - 06:57 AM (#3232528) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Ray Sorry to hear about your dad Dave. Mine, also Arthur, passed away in 2003. Ray |
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09 Oct 11 - 09:04 AM (#3236168) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,JennyB Hi Guys sorry to hear of the passing of Arthur Ball. I am the former partner of Heeby (Geoff Bostock) who played guitar and bass for Bullock Smithy or as they were called previously the SlipperAlley Sidewalk Stompers? I remember Stan, Arthur, Trevor, Jim Kelly - a master musician, Jid and Christine and a guy who played the mandolin all with fond affection. I have tape recordings of their rehearsals and concerts from late 1960's early 1970's which I would love to put on disc with photos to upload on Youtube just has been done for The Pennine Folk as a tribute to them. Hopefully the tapes will still be ok, as for some of the photos,taken in Alderley Edge, the last time I saw a copy of them was in Arthur's house. Jenny |
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25 Oct 11 - 11:35 PM (#3244885) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Dave Cowdrey Stumbled on this site by chance and have enjoyed reminiscing along with my past. I'm Trevor's eldest son and the Bullock Smithy days formed most of my child and early adulthood. The old man passed away on the 8th May 1981 and as memory serves Stan died later (Sept?) that same year. Joe Beard still lives in Elmbeds Road, Higher Poynton. I live in Australia now but I had a pint with Joe when I was over in August...he's still a top man. Dave Ball,it is I that you were at school with all those years ago. Very sorry to hear about your dad, he really did very well to live so long as I remember he'd had 4 heart attacks before dad & Stan died. Kindest regards to your family. I'd really like to see some Bullock Smithy stuff loaded onto you tube. Does anybody remember Sam who played fiddle with BS for some years. I met him in The Railway in Ashton some years ago...still going well. |
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27 Oct 11 - 09:43 AM (#3245515) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Sally Rose Pethybridge Joe (Chris) Beard is still alive and well and playing! You can find him on Facebook. Fond memories of nights at The Rising Sun with Stan and the crowd. Seems not that long ago but in reality...... |
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27 Oct 11 - 02:07 PM (#3245680) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST Chris Joe Beard Yep it`s me....... Just written about Stan and all that era in my new book "Taking The Purple".Currently hosting POYNTON (ex FOLK) COMMUNITY CENTRE acoustic sessions "THE CENTRE SESSIONS" SECOND THURSDAY IN THE MONTH in the old Billiard Hall, now converted to a small 80 seater concert room.Place is FULL of ghosts, not least being Stan!! Come along and we`d love to see all you legends again.Les Martin is my accomplice in this venture..he was compere with Ian Stewart in early `70`s heyday.Place still OK for atmosphere.Smell in the bogs has long gone! We are FACEBOOK and I`m chrisjoebeard@gmail.com all best y`all |
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09 Nov 11 - 08:50 PM (#3254010) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Dave Cowdrey Hey, Tricky Trev's eldest here again. Is everyone posting on this chat aware that there is another Bullock Smithy site hosted by The Mudcat Cafe simply called (imaginatively) Bullock Smithy? It'd be cool if these 2 sites could unite somehow ~ its taken ages for me to remember how to get back here!!! Good to see you're writing, Joe, let us all know when the book comes out. Dave. |
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13 Nov 11 - 06:17 AM (#3256051) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Geoff Bostock (Heeby) The mans name who played mandolin with the slipper alley sidewalk stompers was John Butterworth. He is still a regular in the Arden Arms in stockport as is Pete Walker ex Purple gang. Regards from the Emerald Isles. |
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04 Dec 11 - 03:00 PM (#3268416) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Jenny Bostock I have set up a Bullock Smithy tribute page on facebook for people to upload photos, videos and memories of the group. I hope to upload some of their music when I've my head around the technology. To access the page - type in www.facebook.com/search into the address bar or Google and click on the website that appears to open it. Type Bullock Smithy Folk Group into the search box, click on the search icon and the page will appear. Best Wishes Jenny |
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27 Dec 11 - 04:21 PM (#3280682) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,geoff bostock (Heeby) I am presently compiling a history of Slipper Alley and the Poynton Folk Club days with band personnel etc from Bullock Smithy foundation in 1970 hope to complete it soon Jenny has the tapes which survived and put them onto disc has anyone the T/V recordings Ballads of the North West? Regards Geoff. |
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30 Dec 11 - 07:14 AM (#3281868) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Derek Bruce - (Humperdink) I met Jeff (Heeby Jeeby) and Stan Gee when I worked at Mirlees Blackstone in Hazel Grove and on occasion I played the wash board with The Slipper Ally Sidewalk Stompers. I also remember going caving with the DCC. At that time people generally called me Humperdink or Hump due to my physical likeness to Engelbert Humperdink who was popular in the late sixties. My brief encounters with Slipper Ally and visits to Poynton folk club inspired me to learn to play the mandolin. I bought one just before I left England in 1971 and moved to Australia. In 1973 I began to work as a full time folk musician touring in Australia where I still reside. During the 1980s I went to university as a mature aged student and later became a high school teacher. However, I have maintained my interest in folk music I still perform at folk festivals. |
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08 Jan 12 - 06:02 PM (#3287223) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Geoff Bostock (Heeby) Well Done Humperdink Baby Happy days at Mirrlees in the late sixties do you remember David Jordan who was in the office also Bert who said I get the blues all day in this F--- ing place. Glad to hear you are into music and playing in Australia. All the very best from the Emerald Isle geoffbostock@eircom.net |
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15 Jun 12 - 09:43 AM (#3363716) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST Well I may be a little late but I got here as soon as I could iball |
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10 Jul 12 - 06:45 PM (#3374656) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST Well done Jenny re Stan and Bullock Smithy site.The world needs Bullock Smithies now .A song I remember of Stan`s (but I don`t if you get my meaning!?) is "Brown Brown all the way down".Then there was "The hole in the elephants bottom" and one I still do, called "The Brothers Malone".....all rude and very funny. I have a photo of the oval wheeled bike race at Alstonefield that I`m putting into my book- in the Stan Gee/ Bullock Smithy section. Joe B/Purples |
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03 Mar 13 - 07:27 AM (#3485781) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Tony Williams Wow I remember Slipperalley very well. They ran a folk club, ok it was just them, never any other singers, at the Busman's social club in Macclesfield on Sunday evenings in 1970/71. Every week their repertoire included Paddy Lay Back. Always intoxicated and with the resultant tremendous enthusiasm. The van /truck they came in was amazing.There was a fair number of slogans/ philosophies painted on it. The side windows were whitewashed, so obviously no one could see inside. Engraved upon it were the words to the wise " Dont laugh missis, your daughter's in the back" Loved the story about Stan and the skis Tony Williams |
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04 Mar 13 - 04:44 AM (#3486136) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Ray Seeing ths thread resurrected got me thinking about Stan's unusual guitar playing action; a sort of "stoop", does anyone remember it? Imagine playing standing up with a strap which is about a foot too long and having to lean forward in order to reach the strings. |
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13 Mar 18 - 05:23 PM (#3910923) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Dunstable - Al Only just found this site. Having spent much time at Poynton folk, Wetton, George Alstonfield etc as well as about 6 trips to Italy with Stan & Arthur, it was great to recall all the herberts-Jid, Trevor, Jim Heeby and Christine. Not forgetting Dave & Ian Ball. Realy happy days, a bit manic at times, like Stockport Carnival ! My best wishes to all that are still with us and fond memories of those who are not. Al Dunstable Caving Club X |
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04 Jul 21 - 08:00 PM (#4112328) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST Hi I have very fond memories of the poynton folk club in the 1970 and still have some recordings i made. Bullocks Smithy were the best band at the time better than Steeleye and Mr Fox. Does anyone remember the concert they gave in Bramall Park. Bestbl gig I have ever been to |
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05 Jul 21 - 03:39 AM (#4112353) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Ray Concert in Bramhall park? They were just one of a number of acts. I remember it well but I was one of the people who organised it. |
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31 Jul 21 - 06:49 PM (#4114977) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Glynne Davies Stan Gee did sing a song about The Wizard of Alderley it was his own song and it started 'Who is he' The chorus 'He's the Wizard, the Wizard. the wizard of Alderley. It was a great song. He often sang it with the folk group Bullock Smithy. I have been searching for the lyrics but to no avail and Bullock Smithy as far as I know did. very little recording, From my memory it did not mention the edge and as soon as you put the edge in the title you get Pete Coe's song. There is a Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/Bullock-Smithy-Folk-Group-127653510679542 I worked with Stan at Mirrlees Blackstone in Hazel Grove(Old name Bulllock Smithy) |
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07 Aug 21 - 10:33 AM (#4115717) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Ray Could it have been written by Chris “Joe” Beard? He was heavily into such songs but I hanven’t seen him since before the plague. |
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08 Aug 21 - 08:48 AM (#4115809) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Stan Gee songs From: GUEST,Ray This is the original "Wizard" song from Joe's then band (1968) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzNsyoC5JFk Don't know if it's the same song although both Joe and Stan did (probably still does in the case of Joe) have a thing about Alderley Edge. Of course, back in 1968, Bullock Smithy did not yet exist - they were known as the Slipper Alley Sidewalk Stompers when our paths first crossed at the beginning of the 70s. |