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02 Jul 04 - 10:54 AM (#1218375) Subject: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: GUEST,averse to cursed verse - and worse It was a cosy little affair. She had settled in for the night, with her computer, a glass of mineral water, a warm shawl, a caftan and her fluffy slippers. There were all her old friends, and some new ones, meandering through the various threads, philosophising, debating and meandering. She enjoyed the pointlessness of it all, ideas, just for their own sake, and a great group of people, even if there were a couple of Alpha types determined to impress with their intellectual superiority. she giggled here, sniggered there, but there was a sadness in her. Over the last few weeks she had noticed an environmental hazard, a cyber weed which had entangled itself through the threads like poison ivy - streaking through from thread to thread like a stubborn, determined particularly virulent form of Patterson's curse. Poetry. Now, she wasn't completely averse to verse - she was even known to mutter of few rhymes herself on occasion, when the mood took her. But - a rhyme attack. How long would it last? It was thread creep of a new and sinister nature - the very nature of the site was being highjacked - this is a music site, she thought, not a poetry sharing forum. Was this really a poet, she thought, or is it a political incursion by a particularly dastardly form of trolling - destroying the vibrant nature of the site by attempting to bore us all into slinking away. she noticed how many people hadjust walked away from particlar threads. Now she beleived in freedome of speech - well, once she did. But she had decided to go to her local MP and lobby for restrictions on rhyme. It was all too much. I think I'll turn the telly on. And so she did. |
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02 Jul 04 - 11:36 AM (#1218398) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: Nerd Hey, Technicolor is a brand name and thus should not be Briticized with a U! |
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02 Jul 04 - 11:46 AM (#1218404) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: freda underhill Technicolour yawn is aussie slang for vomiting. |
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02 Jul 04 - 11:50 AM (#1218409) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: Strollin' Johnny And in the UK (as well as Speaking to the Great White Telephone, or Calling for Hector etc.) :0) |
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02 Jul 04 - 12:06 PM (#1218425) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: beardedbruce Of the 160+ threads today, perhaps 6 have any poetry, other than song lyrics. Do I smell a troll, hiding as a guest? |
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02 Jul 04 - 12:09 PM (#1218428) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: el ted This looks like a good place to advertise - SINGAROUND FRIDAY 16TH JULY THE BLACKSMITHS ARMS FARLINGTON YO61 6NW free camping, outdoor toilets/ hot water/ BBQ facilities |
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02 Jul 04 - 01:20 PM (#1218481) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: Nerd It's slang here in the US too, but we spell it correctly...hee, hee |
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02 Jul 04 - 01:25 PM (#1218484) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: John MacKenzie Barry MacKenzie will now sing all 107 verse of 'Chunder in the old Pacific Sea' Bazzas rule KO. I note that a certain BB is feeling paranoid, he should only feel that way if he is being got at. OK OK, feel free to be paranoid! Giok |
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02 Jul 04 - 01:59 PM (#1218502) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: beardedbruce Giok, I object to nasty, small-minded, mean-spirited trolls who object to anyone having any discussions they do not approve of. If that makes me paranoid, oh well. |
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02 Jul 04 - 02:14 PM (#1218514) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: GUEST,Clint Keller Be not disencouraged. Just sing any verses you come across (The Yellow Rose of Texas is a good tune to try) and behold! Folksong! clint it works for about all of E. Dickenson. |
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02 Jul 04 - 03:03 PM (#1218536) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: wysiwyg Opening posts like this thread's USED to be received as invitations to play-- to enter the story in a new character, or to write a similar, stand-alone piece. Why not just take this as an opportunity to play? ~Longterm Member :~) |
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02 Jul 04 - 03:19 PM (#1218546) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: GUEST,lurker ...And she lived happily ever after before her technicolour tv, and we lived happily ever after on mudcat, with the occasional rhyme from BB. The End the lurker likes happy endings. |
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02 Jul 04 - 03:29 PM (#1218553) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: Stilly River Sage Falling asleep in front of the television, Averse to cursed verse dreams that she found her target. From the screen that appears in her dream, a head appears to float from the printed list of discussions on the page. It snarls and vomits insults, mouthing "I object to nasty, small-minded, mean-spirited trolls who object to anyone having any discussions they do not approve of.- If that makes me paranoid, oh well" . With this confirmation that she wasn't imagining things, she shifts in her comfy chair and smiles in her sleep. |
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02 Jul 04 - 03:33 PM (#1218557) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: beardedbruce WYSIWYG: One has to take this kind of post in the manner which it is given: I do not see this type of post, by a guest, as being a friendly invitation. As can be seen from the previous post, I do not think that this is a game a polite person would play. |
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02 Jul 04 - 04:03 PM (#1218562) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: beardedbruce SRS, I guess my description of you was right on the nose, to bring you out so soon. Now you can crawl back into your hole. |
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02 Jul 04 - 04:06 PM (#1218564) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: wysiwyg Not buying that, bruce. One does NOT have to take anything in the spirit in which you think it is intended-- first, it's hard to enough to read anyone's mind in person. Online it is much harder. To react negatively because one thinks someone else is being negative is merely feeding into and adding to the negativity. Second, one is entirely free to make lemonade at any time. This worry about others' worries that strikes Mudcat from time to time mostly reflects a lack of appreciation for what Mudcat can be, positively--perhaps a lack of direct experience with its more postivie possibilities. It's just a downward negative spiral one is free to turn aside from anytime. I'm inviting you to turn outwards or upwards, that's all. ~Susan |
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02 Jul 04 - 04:21 PM (#1218569) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: beardedbruce Susan, "an environmental hazard, a cyber weed which had entangled itself through the threads like poison ivy - streaking through from thread to thread like a stubborn, determined particularly virulent form of Patterson's curse. Poetry. Now, she wasn't completely averse to verse - she was even known to mutter of few rhymes herself on occasion, when the mood took her. But - a rhyme attack. How long would it last? It was thread creep of a new and sinister nature - the very nature of the site was being highjacked - this is a music site, she thought, not a poetry sharing forum. Was this really a poet, she thought, or is it a political incursion by a particularly dastardly form of trolling - destroying the vibrant nature of the site by attempting to bore us all into slinking away" ---------------------------------------------------------- WHen I am personally attacked for expressing my view, when I am expected to accept whatever is given as "fact" without any supporting evidence, and , when my statements are challanged, not because there is any evidence to the contrary but because the supporting facts are not from the properly liberal source, and outright lies are being told, I cannot get into your philosophy of looking for the positive side. I am merely human, not an angel. If you want to stop this, feel free- I am only reacting to provocation from a few shit-for-brains around here. But I have noticed that the "minority" opinion never seems to get any support, just thet we are told to accept whatever we get, and smile. I don't have a problem that many may disagree with me- I do object to being attacked and then told I should not react, while the attack is never even commented on. Freedom of speech is only valid when you support those you disagree with: To demand it for yourself and deny it to those on the other side is the worst form of hypocracy. This thread was a personal attack upon me- When I see that others are defending me, I will not need to react- until then, I will not tolerate lying. bigoted, narrow-minded people making comments about me without reply. Bruce |
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02 Jul 04 - 07:02 PM (#1218666) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: Morticia "particularly virulent form of Patterson's curse". Hmmmmm, what is Patterson's curse? Catspaw laying down his particular form of wisdom, humour and flatulance? Micca giving us another set of song lyrics to a song we only thought we knew? I'd be interested to know, being half Patterson myself. We all are on the watch out........don't want to be taken to task by a troll, don't want to contribute to a thread that might be a troll in diguise, don't want to hang our thoughts and feelings out there where a troll can find them and mock them....... It lessens our response, it makes us cautious when we should be amongst friends.........it also makes us question what we are writing here for history to examine.......and question whether it is opinion or fact.........I will go on record as saying I quite like trolls.......they make us think about how we respond in a way that no other catalyst could induce. Discuss *G* |
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02 Jul 04 - 09:30 PM (#1218727) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: Stilly River Sage Was this really a poet, she thought, or is it a political incursion by a particularly dastardly form of trolling - destroying the vibrant nature of the site by attempting to bore us all into slinking away. she noticed how many people had just walked away from particlar threads. BeardedBruce, I'm not the one posting saccharin poetry by the yard. The writing is on the wall, but I'm not surprised you can't recognize yourself in this description because you're just too dense. You may speak English and string words together grammatically, but your reasoning is amazingly shallow and you have all of the charm of a festering boil when you decide to make a stand on any given thread. . . .when my statements are challanged, not because there is any evidence to the contrary but because the supporting facts are not from the properly liberal source. . . People have given ample and consistently solid supporting material to show why your arguments are nonsense. They've gone out of their way to explain clearly and in great detail what the problems are with the argument you're presenting. Their sources are mainstream and reliable (do you equate "reliable" with "liberal?"). Yet you bluster along and continue the argument by ignoring the facts and stating and restating your opinion. If someone doesn't repeat and respond to every point you try to make, you come up with the obnoxious and self-serving rejoinder along the lines of "since you didn't respond to this point I will presume that you think I'm right." You presume way too much, fella, and you test the patience of a lot of good people who have been polite to you far longer than you deserve. |
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03 Jul 04 - 04:06 AM (#1218809) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: John MacKenzie BB, methinks you make a mountain out of a molehill, and by biting at a humorous lure trolled by 'averse to verse' etc you have given others a stick to beat you with. Chill out as they say, and don't let a little criticism get you down. They say 'There is many a true word spoken in jest' so read, learn, inwardly digest, and don't be so thin skinned! Giok |
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03 Jul 04 - 06:02 AM (#1218833) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: beardedbruce "BeardedBruce, I'm not the one posting saccharin poetry by the yard." No, you seem to specialize in personal attacks and intellectual dishonesty. " but your reasoning is amazingly shallow and you have all of the charm of a festering boil when you decide to make a stand on any given thread. " And when I try to have a discussion of facts you resort to personal insult and trolling. "People have given ample and consistently solid supporting material to show why your arguments are nonsense. " Some have given reasonable discussion, but you have not. To those who present reasonable discussion, I will concede what the facts show- but I expect the same courtesy from them, when my facts are presented. "They've gone out of their way to explain clearly and in great detail what the problems are with the argument you're presenting. " Your only explainations have been that I was wrong- with no supporting facts, or refutation of what I had presented. "Their sources are mainstream and reliable (do you equate "reliable" with "liberal?"). Yet you bluster along and continue the argument by ignoring the facts and stating and restating your opinion. I considerr all the facts as presented by reasonable people. Perhaps I should use your own SRS standard, and throw out anything that comes from a source I might not agree with, but I try to balance the ovbvious bias of all sources byt looking at the facts, not just my opinion of what should be. "If someone doesn't repeat and respond to every point you try to make, you come up with the obnoxious and self-serving rejoinder along the lines of "since you didn't respond to this point I will presume that you think I'm right." This may be true- when someone like you responds to a request for facts with only personal attack, and statements that any fact that is not from the "proper" source does not even need to be looked at, I am tempted to believe that you have no real arguement, and are conceding by your actions. "You presume way too much, fella, and you test the patience of a lot of good people who have been polite to you far longer than you deserve. " I had presumed that one might be able to have an adult discussion of the facts. It seems that I am mistaken in your case- If this has tested anyone else's patience, I regret that, and apologize to them. |
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03 Jul 04 - 07:24 AM (#1218850) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: Pied Piper Hewie Hewie Ralf Ralf |
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03 Jul 04 - 08:41 AM (#1218867) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: Bob Bolton G'day Morticia, "particularly virulent form of Patterson's curse" Patterson's Curse is a suspiciously Australian reference: a European plant Echium (mostly) plantagineum, run feral in Australia and regarded as a noxious weed - poisonous to stock, in Eastern Australia (where its introduction is blamed on a 19th century grazier R.E. Patterson) ... yet regarded as good drought fodder in South Australia, where it is called Salvation Jane! I don't actually wish to use this to lay claim to our "GUEST:averse ... and worse" ... but I may have to dodge a bit! Regard(les)s, Bob Bolton |
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03 Jul 04 - 08:46 AM (#1218869) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: beardedbruce Bob, So, one man's Curse is another's Salvation? |
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03 Jul 04 - 09:45 AM (#1218875) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: GUEST,averse to cursed verse - and worse My time is done, my rhyme is run Yet shall I say in part I do not live near any river Nor from a river hark To reconcile I'll rhyme awhile But promise in good cheer Twill be a year 'fore I appear to rhyme again in style And in between, I'll vent my spleen Continuous in some thread I still remain in rhyming pain Averse to cursed verse And now I ask, put pride aside And listen for a while Who can move on when their heart is closed To prose, a better style. Apologies to SRS, bb, and XYZ and now I think I'd better go and put myself to bed. Ah-men. |
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03 Jul 04 - 10:32 AM (#1218888) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: GUEST,lurker I told you happy endings were a good thing. ...the lurker |
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04 Jul 04 - 08:31 AM (#1219225) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: GUEST,leeneia I like the poetry that appears in threads. Go for it, poets, and let the jealous carp. |
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04 Jul 04 - 10:42 AM (#1219273) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: Jeri I used to love this site because No matter what the topic Friends just talked to friends Now, we're more myopic And most of us can't see too well Without our reading glasses But it's difficult to put them on With our heads jammed up our asses Mine's been there - I know it has When I have not been happy People seem like idiots And the world itself looks crappy Posts examined for excuses To get panties in a bunch And indulge our inner brats And have someone's heart for lunch And though things are looking somewhat dim I've heard a little rumor That someone, somewhere 'round this place Still has a sense of humor I shall try to join the race And with humor, face each hurdle And my head will joyfully emerge Like a backwards sort of turtle And if someone criticises me And says I write bad verse I'll grin and say "If I try, I might Be able to do worse!" Or if someone should take offense And my poetry curse I doubt they'll find something to say I haven't thought of first When the world, it seems too serious I'll sit and think a while And look for the absurdity in life And with any luck, I'll smile |
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04 Jul 04 - 10:56 AM (#1219281) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: Morticia brilliant, Jeri,thanks, I needed a good giggle and thank you Bob, it's always good to learn something new! |
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04 Jul 04 - 11:04 AM (#1219284) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: John MacKenzie Ah Bob! I too suspect that our mystery guest is of antipodean origins. Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more. Giok |
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04 Jul 04 - 12:07 PM (#1219311) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: Stilly River Sage Jeri, you know your audience! Down Under, eh? Patterson's Curse does turn up as a term in a Google search, and the references are all Australian. It has generated art and music, apparently. And as a member of the Borage family, it looks like it has a typical borage "fiddle neck." How appropriate for Mudcat! |
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04 Jul 04 - 12:21 PM (#1219315) Subject: RE: BS: The Technicoloured yawn From: Jeri SRS, I know myself, and human beings tend to share traits. Life's too short not to laugh whenever I have the chance. It's too short to be cruel, it's too short to be afraid, and it's too bloody short to sweat the small stuff. |