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26 Oct 98 - 05:48 AM (#43227) Subject: Tramps and hawkers From: alison Hi Heard a band doing this at the weekend, they said it was by the Battlefield Band. I know the lyrics are in the database ..... as is a tune, but the tune in the database is basically "The homes of Donegal" they did a different more minor tune. Anyone able to help out thanks. Real audio would be great (eh Joe?).... but I'd be happy with midi. Slainte alison |
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26 Oct 98 - 09:18 AM (#43235) Subject: RE: Tramps and hawkers From: Barry Finn Hi alison, I don't know the tune to "The Homes Of Donegal" but from the looks of what's in the DT it could fit the same as "Tramps & Hawkers" which is the same tune as "Paddy West". Don't know if this helps at all. Barry |
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26 Oct 98 - 09:23 AM (#43237) Subject: RE: Tramps and hawkers From: Liam's Brother Hi Alison! I've heard this from a hundered singers but never to a different tune than "Paddy West." As a matter of fact, when people speak about "Paddy West," they usually say that it's to the tune of "Come All Ye Tramps and Hawkers." Singers who record a lot could be specifically looking for something different. If the Battlefields were to record "Tramps," it wouldn't surprise me that they would be more likely to do it with a completely different melody, should they be able to find it, because the standard one is so common (e.g. also "Captain Wedderburn's Courtship," "Peter Amberly," etc.). Sorry to answer a question with an anecdote. Hope you find what you are looking for. All the best, Dan |
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26 Oct 98 - 11:24 PM (#43343) Subject: RE: Tramps and hawkers From: Art Thieme Have always done "Lakes Of Ponchartrain" to this same tune... |
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27 Oct 98 - 01:26 AM (#43353) Subject: RE: Tramps and hawkers From: Barry Taylor I've done a midi of it (Come All Ye Tramps and Hawkers), available here with lyrics, Alison... http://www3.islandnet.com/~btaylor/scotmidi.htm Darned if I know which melody I used, though. I'll leave it to you folk archivists to pinpoint that. ;-)
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27 Oct 98 - 07:57 AM (#43371) Subject: RE: Tramps and hawkers From: alison Hi Barry, where have you been hiding this site.... it's wonderful.... heaps of tunes and songs. Hey Joe .... does this mean I'm perfect now? (**grin**) PS Barry your tune is the same as the others named above.... I know it as "The Homes of Donegal". Slainte alison |
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29 Oct 98 - 12:11 PM (#43598) Subject: RE: Tramps and hawkers From: Joe Offer Yes, dear, anything you say, dear...A search of the database under "Hawkers" brings up a number of interesting songs. Tom Russell did nice recording of a Jim Ringer song he called "Tramps and Hawkers" on THE ROSE OF THE SAN JOAQUIN CD (we call it "Rose of SJ" in the database). -Joe Offer- |
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01 Nov 98 - 04:05 AM (#43822) Subject: RE: Tramps and hawkers From: Jon Bartlett "Tramps & Hawkers" must be one of the most popular tunes (along with "Sweet Betsy from Pike") for zipper songs, where you zip out the old words and add your own. Ewan MacColl used it for "England's Motorway", it was used for "The manchester Martyrs" (Fenian song of the 1850's), also "The River Roe" in Joyce; Tommy Armstrong used it for his most famous song "The Durham Lockout" (1892) and there are several BC songs to it, too. |