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12 Aug 04 - 05:27 PM (#1246197) Subject: BS: The Press: We Goofed on Iraq... From: Bobert Well, gol danged! Like stop the presses! What, the press admitting it messed up on their pre-invasion focus and reporting? Can this be? Well, today's Washington Post has a well hidden Page A-1 story entitled "Stories Pushed Aside in the Mrach to War" (Washington Post, August 12) which continues to their ususual A-20 retraction page. Yup, managing editor Bob Woodward is quoted as saying "we should have warned readers we had information that the basis for this (the war) was shakier". Yeah, Mr. Woodward, if you feel so danged guilty and want to make ammends, why bury yer confession so cleverly on the front page? Kobe Bryant's headlines were bolder. Anti-Kerry ads article even bolder. Like what gives? Oh yeah, you, the NY Times and the LA Times, which purdy much set the course for the rest of major print media, had yer heads so far up Bush's butt that you couldn't bring yerselves to tell the thruth. So much for democracy when we have the major press hopelessly eaten up with "office-speak" propaganda... Maybe someone who is into to blue clicky stuff will find this article for others to enjoy, fir a lack of a better word... Bobert |
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12 Aug 04 - 08:00 PM (#1246299) Subject: RE: BS: The Press: We Goofed on Iraq... From: Amos Well Bobert, that is half-good news. Here is one such story. Here is another. It is kinda late for this realization. I am thinking of John Adams, near his deathbed in the early nineteenth century, who said something to the effect of "You will never know what it cost this generation to win freedom. Make good use of it." Sigh. A |
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12 Aug 04 - 08:24 PM (#1246323) Subject: RE: BS: The Press: We Goofed on Iraq... From: GUEST Odd isn't it, how vociferous the condemnation of 'Fahrenheit 9/11" was by the mainstream media, especially for Moore's criticism of the media (which was, disappointingly, one of the tamest, tepid aspects of the film) for the very thing the NY Times & Washington Post both now admit they did wrong--ie act complicitly to support the government's case for war, when the evidence they had was to the contrary. Here is a quote from weasel Bob his dick ass self in today's paper: ""We did our job but we didn't do enough, and I blame myself mightily for not pushing harder," Woodward said in an interview. "We should have warned readers we had information that the basis for this was shakier" than widely believed. "Those are exactly the kind of statements that should be published on the front page." I think Woodward didn't want the Pincus view to conflict with the view he was trying to put across in his pompous, ass kissing books about the Bush White House, meself. |
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12 Aug 04 - 08:30 PM (#1246333) Subject: RE: BS: The Press: We Goofed on Iraq... From: Bobert Pincus got the same thing that the American people and the American democracy got, GUEST: the shaft! But you know that... Thanks, Amos, fir the links thou the articles aren't exactly the same as appeared in the edition of the Post that I have, are similar... Bobert |
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12 Aug 04 - 08:49 PM (#1246350) Subject: RE: BS: The Press: We Goofed on Iraq... From: Amos That first article includes several manly confessions by Bob Woodward, including the statement, sheepish, that he was part of a groupthink movement in the run-up to war. A |
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12 Aug 04 - 08:53 PM (#1246351) Subject: RE: BS: The Press: We Goofed on Iraq... From: GUEST I remember all too well being incredulous that Pincus' and Priest's stories kept getting buried. The Post can claim a church/state wall between the newsroom and the editorial offices all it wants, the American public isn't buying their lame excuses. There is one ingredient they keep neglecting to mention in these mea culpa recantations, though... The international press, who didn't buy the flimsy evidence the US/UK was trying to pass off as incontrovertible proof. I think the mainstream media may even be starting to lose credibility among the American people as a result of their totally whoring themselves out to the administration. Like somebody, I can't remember who now, said back during all the self-congratulatory coverage of the media by the media embedding themselves with the troops during the first war phase of the current war phase: "I'm much more concerned with reporters being embedded at the White House and the Pentagon, than I am with reporters being embedded in Iraq." Amen to that prophetic statement. |
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12 Aug 04 - 09:10 PM (#1246361) Subject: RE: BS: The Press: We Goofed on Iraq... From: Bobert Actuallu, GUEST, mainstream America is so involved in the NASCAR points tanding that they couldn't give a crap about what little Donnie Graham has written in their editroial pages. Like mama, like son. Buch of right winged Republican so called "liberals". What a joke. The Graham's have had their heads up anyones butt that will help them overturn FCC regs so they can own more and more media... They'd support Hitler if he were president and promising to delver the goods... Just M.O., of course... Bobert |
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13 Aug 04 - 08:27 AM (#1246712) Subject: RE: BS: The Press: We Goofed on Iraq... From: The Fooles Troupe Funny, that sort of people did just that in Germany. And he did build the Motorways, and Mussolini made the trains run on time... |
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13 Aug 04 - 07:53 PM (#1247240) Subject: RE: BS: The Press: We Goofed on Iraq... From: GUEST Yeah, and dead people keep voting Daley because Chicago is still running (well, if you call that running), Foolestroupe. I've recently traumitized myself by reading through the gay marriage and Georgiansilver/MartinGibson threads, so it's probably my shellshockedness. But I'm not getting your point. Could you explain? I mean, I understand that people support unsavory political leaders if they can deliver the basic services. But beyond that, this circumstance is really much more complex. I'm a little less angry about the Washington Post confession, but not much. The US has been ripped asunder by this war and this illegitimate administration (I really don't believe Bush is calling the shots, so I refuse to just say "Bush's fault"), there is tremendous suffering going on in Iraq and throughout the Middle East because of the arrogance, greed, avarice, and incompetence of all these president's men. The illegal occupation forces of the US government are currently waging war in one of the world's largest cemeteries, and poised to blow the most sacred architectural site of millions of Shi'ite Muslims to smithereens. The so-called "opposition" to this outlaw administration, is a man who proposes to do a better job of continuing the tremendous suffering of the Iraqi people, as well as of the Palestinian and Israeli people, and promises to continue to go full bore on the Muslim world through "America's war on terrorism" as if it were a product repackaging by a global conglomerate. I don't know. The whole thing just sickens me. |