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13 Aug 04 - 07:50 PM (#1247235) Subject: BS: Arete From: GUEST,sorefingers What happened to European genius? 2000 years and it is still withering! |
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13 Aug 04 - 08:11 PM (#1247258) Subject: RE: BS: Arete From: Leadfingers Thread title should be Wither European Genius then |
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14 Aug 04 - 03:01 AM (#1247422) Subject: RE: BS: Arete From: open mike what the heck are you finger guys talking about?! can't put my finger on it... can you please point it out? perhaps when it becomes clear it will be a snap... |
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14 Aug 04 - 04:44 AM (#1247445) Subject: RE: BS: Arete From: Dave Hanson It's a snare to draw innocent mudcatters in with. It doesn't mean a bloody thing. eric |
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14 Aug 04 - 04:53 AM (#1247449) Subject: RE: BS: Arete From: John MacKenzie Maybe he means an Arriette accordian, and this is really a music thread! Giok |
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14 Aug 04 - 08:52 AM (#1247507) Subject: RE: BS: Arete From: Wolfgang The thread title is Greek to me, but then, that's no wonder, I had to learn old Greek at school. The same complaint, Sorefingers, has been heard in Germany in the last and before last century. That's life. Wolfgang |
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14 Aug 04 - 08:57 AM (#1247509) Subject: RE: BS: Arete From: beardedbruce The most articulated value in Greek culture is areté. Translated as "virtue," the word actually means something closer to "being the best you can be," or "reaching your highest human potential." The term from Homeric times onwards is not gender specific. Homer applies the term of both the Greek and Trojan heroes as well as major female figures, such as Penelope, the wife of the Greek hero, Odysseus. In the Homeric poems, areté is frequently associated with bravery, but more often, with effectiveness. The man or woman of areté is a person of the highest effectiveness; they use all their faculties: strength, bravery, wit, and deceptiveness, to achieve real results. In the Homeric world, then, areté involves all of the abilities and potentialities available to humans. We can, through the frequent use of this term in Homer's poems, make some tentative conclusions about the early Greek world view. The concept implies a human-centered universe in which human actions are of paramount importance; the world is a place of conflict and difficulty, and human value and meaning is measured against individual effectiveness in the world. link |
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14 Aug 04 - 09:08 AM (#1247512) Subject: RE: BS: Arete From: freda underhill He went straight through the court, still hidden by the cloak of darkness in which Minerva had enveloped him, till he reached Arete and King Alcinous; then he laid his hands upon the knees of the queen, and at that moment the miraculous darkness fell away from him and he became visible. The Odyssey by Homer Sorefingers, you can gain enlightenment by falling at the feet of a woman, and placing his hands on her knees. then all that seems dark will become pure and light... |
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14 Aug 04 - 09:11 AM (#1247513) Subject: RE: BS: Arete From: McGrath of Harlow Is sorefingers on about that dopey athletes story the papers seem full of. Big deal. |
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14 Aug 04 - 09:43 AM (#1247524) Subject: RE: BS: Arete From: Micca From Merriam-Webster dictionary "Main Entry: arête Pronunciation: &-'rAt Function: noun Etymology: French, literally, fish bone, from Late Latin arista, from Latin, beard of grain : a sharp-crested ridge in rugged mountains " This was the only meaning I knew for the word and was, understandably confused by the thread opening as it seemed to have little or nothing to do with climbing!! |
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14 Aug 04 - 10:22 AM (#1247545) Subject: RE: BS: Arete From: Amos BEardedbruce's entry was writtn by Richard Hooker at http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~dee/GLOSSARY/ARETE.HTM, who goes on to describe the use of the Greek term arete in SOcratic diakoigues. A |
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14 Aug 04 - 10:44 AM (#1247556) Subject: RE: BS: Arete From: beardedbruce Amos, I DID include the link... |
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15 Aug 04 - 10:08 AM (#1248007) Subject: RE: BS: Arete From: John MacKenzie Arrietty from The Borrowers maybe? Giok |