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12 Sep 04 - 10:52 PM (#1270659) Subject: Lyr Req: Jean Redpath's street song medley From: celticblues5 I posted this as part of a note at the end of another thread, but apparently that thread had played out, as no one answered, so am putting it under perhaps a more appropriate heading to ask again. Some years ago I heard Jean Redpath (maybe on PHC) sing a medley of traditional kids' street songs, starting with "Up Against the Wall, the London Ball," and ending with "I've a Laddie in Americay." In between was a little bit of a song that had to do with a child who was taking her dad some dinner - wonder if anyone knows the complete lyrics - all that I can remember are little bits - "[name] stole me new topcoat, me new topcoat, me new topcoat, [name] stole me new topcoat, and [name] tore the linin'" and "ah ha ha, ye needna run, ye needna run, ye needna run, ah ha ha, ye needna run, for ye'll get yer licks in the mornin' and "My mother says that I must go with my father's dinner-o" and something about a "bawbee bake." Possibly these are two different songs and I'm just merging them in my memory. Can anyone help with the lyrics to this (these)? Also, I was under the impression that a bawbee was a coin - ? Did I hear the word incorrectly in the Redpath song, or are they two different words or the same word with two different meanings or was my impression just wrong in the first place? Thanks for your expertise! |
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12 Sep 04 - 11:29 PM (#1270700) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jean Redpath's street song medley From: Malcolm Douglas A bawbee was a coin, yes; but there is no mystery here. A "bawbee bake" is a bake that costs you a bawbee. It is not cooked currency. See the DT file I'LL TELL MA |
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13 Sep 04 - 10:03 AM (#1271122) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jean Redpath's street song medley From: Big Jim from Jackson At least part of the medley you want was recorded on her album with Folk-Legacy. If you get on their web site, I'm sure Sandy and Caroline Paton would be glad to sell you a copy. It is an excellent recording. |
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13 Sep 04 - 05:01 PM (#1271380) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jean Redpath's street song medley From: Q (Frank Staplin) The Opies, in "The Singing Game," discuss the rhyme group "Up Against the Wall," which includes "I'll Tell Mother" and others that commonly were put together to make a game. Some are based on once popular songs. A number of them are known on both sides of the Atlantic. I haven't heard the medley, but the first and last mentioned by celtic blue5 suggest that Redpath, starting with a 'wall' verse and ending with a lad in 'americay,' may have been thinking of the migration of these rhymes across the ocean. The Opies mention one of the "Up Againt the Wall" group collected in America in 1886: "I like coffee and I like tea, I like boys and the boys like me. I'll tell my mother when I get home, The boys won't let the girls alone. O sweet beans and barley grows...." |
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14 Sep 04 - 12:05 PM (#1271870) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jean Redpath's street song medley From: celticblues5 Hi, Q - Thanks for your contribution. When I saw that the I'll Tell Ma version mentioned above included the bit about the dinner, I was wondering if the Tell Me Ma chorus might not be one of those floating ones that pop up here and there, since the version I'm most familiar with (the one the Rankins and so many others do) DOESN'T have the dinner bit. Interesting to see your 1886 rhyme, and speculate whether it was the basis for the old standard "I like coffee, I like tea, I like the java jive and it likes me...." |
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14 Sep 04 - 01:32 PM (#1271958) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jean Redpath's street song medley From: Q (Frank Staplin) Quite likely the inspiration. I will post. |
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14 Sep 04 - 01:39 PM (#1271967) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Jean Redpath's street song medley From: SINSULL I love coffee, I love tea I love the boys and the boys love me Rich girls wear ruffles on their pants Poor girls wear them plain If youy don't wear none at all You should be ashamed. My mother taught me this when I was about five. Her parents were English and Scottish. |