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16 Sep 04 - 10:54 AM (#1273183) Subject: BS: What have.......? From: Fergie A student posed this riddle in school today, it took me a while to solve it. Riddle What have; Atilla the Hun, Winnie the Pooh and Jack the Ripper all got in common? |
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16 Sep 04 - 10:55 AM (#1273186) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Amos The same middle name? A |
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16 Sep 04 - 10:56 AM (#1273188) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Stilly River Sage Their middle name is "the"? |
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16 Sep 04 - 10:57 AM (#1273189) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Stilly River Sage Darn, Amos, I'd have beaten you to it if I wasn't on this %^&&@ dialup connection! SRS |
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16 Sep 04 - 10:58 AM (#1273192) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Fergie Amos either you are much brighter than me or you heard it before. Which is it? Fergus |
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16 Sep 04 - 11:00 AM (#1273196) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: GUEST,MMario but isn't Winnie's CORRECT middle name "ther"? |
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16 Sep 04 - 11:16 AM (#1273211) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Amos No, it is just that Ihave heard many many riddles which depend for effect on using language in the same way (confusing the referent and the language or spelling used to point to it). A |
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16 Sep 04 - 11:32 AM (#1273230) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Bill D gee, and I thought the answer was that they were all 'more than we could bear'.... |
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16 Sep 04 - 04:33 PM (#1273422) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Cluin They all got away with something. |
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16 Sep 04 - 05:05 PM (#1273458) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: CarolC MMario is correct. Winnie the Pooh's middle name is ther. Atilla the Hun and Jack the ripper's middle names were not ther. So there must be something else they all have in common. I'm guessing it's that they were/are all every furry. |
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16 Sep 04 - 05:07 PM (#1273462) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: CarolC *very* furry |
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16 Sep 04 - 05:14 PM (#1273472) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Kim C How do you know Jack the Ripper was furry? |
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16 Sep 04 - 06:06 PM (#1273514) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: CarolC Just a wild guess. Maybe they all had big feet. |
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16 Sep 04 - 06:16 PM (#1273524) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Little Hawk Consciousness. Identity. A name. A history. And they are all males. |
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16 Sep 04 - 06:20 PM (#1273529) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: GUEST,SueB ...short on brains? very cuddly? |
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16 Sep 04 - 06:23 PM (#1273533) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: GUEST Honey lovers? |
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16 Sep 04 - 07:11 PM (#1273578) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Shanghaiceltic All thinks tiggers are wonderfull things? |
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16 Sep 04 - 07:25 PM (#1273605) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: mack/misophist My Latin copy of Winnie the Pooh gives the middle name as "ille". Since Latin os older than English, this must be his original name. |
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16 Sep 04 - 07:30 PM (#1273610) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: CarolC In your Latin copy of Winnie the Pooh, mack/misophist, how does the dialogue read when Christopher Robin explains to his father that Winnie the Pooh's middle name is "ther"? |
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16 Sep 04 - 07:41 PM (#1273627) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: GUEST He also lives under the name Sanders. |
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17 Sep 04 - 03:41 AM (#1273797) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Tannywheeler I'm gonna make a million -- get out a psychobabble self-help book that touts Mudcat as the absolute cure for depression, turn folks on, stop war... uh, the end of civilization as we know it? Or not. But first, a nap. Thanks for the laughs. Tw |
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17 Sep 04 - 03:56 AM (#1273809) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: freda underhill turnips, onions and testes all got in common? |
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18 Sep 04 - 02:08 PM (#1275071) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Tannywheeler thin skins? Tw. |
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18 Sep 04 - 02:19 PM (#1275080) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: GUEST They make good soup? |
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18 Sep 04 - 02:25 PM (#1275088) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: McGrath of Harlow "And they are all males." That's just a guess so far as Jack the Ripper is concerned. |
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18 Sep 04 - 02:28 PM (#1275089) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Amos The riddle as posed is answered as given. The fact that many of you seem to know someone else named Winnie Ther Poo has nothing to do with it. This riddle was about someone named Winnie the Poo. I believe he starred in a Disney film by the same name. A |
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18 Sep 04 - 03:41 PM (#1275124) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: CarolC Amos, apparently you've never read Winnie the Pooh. He's the same character. While his middle name may be spelled "the", it is, in actuality, "ther". Don't blame us if you aren't familiar with the literature, the characters, or the story. The Disney film had nothing whatever to do with the actual story. Just a cheap immitation. |
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18 Sep 04 - 05:05 PM (#1275175) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Fergie turnips, onions and testes all got in common? Eh.... meat and two veg. Fergus |
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21 Sep 04 - 03:43 AM (#1277052) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Georgiansilver CarolC, you stated "Amos, apparently you've never read Winnie the Pooh. He's the same character. While his middle name may be spelled "the", it is, in actuality, "ther". Don't blame us if you aren't familiar with the literature, the characters, or the story. The Disney film had nothing whatever to do with the actual story. Just a cheap immitation". You said don't blame us if you are not familiar etc etc.....Can I ask where you found this information?. Please visit:- http://www.just-pooh.com/history.html Best wishes. |
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21 Sep 04 - 09:08 AM (#1277254) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Snuffy What have Homer and Edward VIII in common? |
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21 Sep 04 - 10:18 AM (#1277311) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Georgiansilver Mrs Simpson..............Best wishes. |
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21 Sep 04 - 10:25 AM (#1277321) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: GUEST qoutring from chapter one: When I first heard his name, I said, just as you are going to say, "But I thought he was a boy?" "So did I," said Christopher Robin. "Then you can't call him Winnie?" "I don't." "But you said--" "He's Winnie-ther-Pooh. Don't you know what 'ther' means?" "Ah, yes, now I do," I said quickly; and I hope you [referring now to readers of this book] do too, because it is all the explanation you are going to get |
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21 Sep 04 - 10:40 AM (#1277336) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Amos Carol C: I don't need any character slurs about what I read as a boy; I was dutiful and diligent, and read "Now We Are Six", "The House on Pooh Corner", and "Winnie the Pooh", as the book is titled. Later, I alwso read "Winnie Ille Pu" which I hasten to point out is NOT "Winnie Iller Pu". Now, you know darn well that whether we are describing one character or two, both names are in common useage, and legitimate labels to refer to the being -- extraordinary bear! -- named Winnie. In one of those two names, his middle name is "the". I did not cause this, but I will not be brow-beaten into saying it is not the case. Ask anyone on the street who "Winnie the Pooh" is and they will tell you without a moment's hesitation. Do not quibble me, madam!! A |
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21 Sep 04 - 10:50 AM (#1277340) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Georgiansilver Amos...Winnie the pooh is the name in common usage so you were right in the first instance. Best wishes. |
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21 Sep 04 - 12:35 PM (#1277434) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: CarolC Amos and Georgiansilver, I refer you both to the quote from Christopher Robin himself in the 21 Sep 04 - 10:25 AM GUEST post. Christopher Robin is the one and ONLY expert on all matters Pooh. You two are just people who grew up and forgot what is important and what isn't. I, on the other hand, either never grew up, or never forgot, because I remember. And there you have it. You are both wrong. Don't you know what 'ther' means?" |
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21 Sep 04 - 01:08 PM (#1277468) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Georgiansilver Carol C....Who wrote the books and who were the books about? You are taking one minor thing and making it important...in your own opinion. Did you look at the website I gave in the earlier thread? Best wishes. |
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21 Sep 04 - 01:33 PM (#1277483) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: GUEST,SueB CarolC, don't worry about Amos. He hasn't been himself lately. You are absolutely right, and no amount of petulant pedantry can change that. To those of us in the know, it's Winnie ther Pooh. |
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21 Sep 04 - 02:08 PM (#1277522) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Amos Well, other folks use the expression "Winnie the Pooh", and they use it to refer to some bearish character who has similar adventures to those of Winnie ther Pooh. As for CarolC's admantine insistence on being right about it, fine, she's right. But it is an obsessive and literal-minded sort of rightness, much less graceful than the Higher Rightness to which she is the usual Heiress by her nature. Whoever it is that is being referred to by the name Winnie the Pooh, his or her middle name is obviously "the", and if CarolC knows no such being, so be it. The author -- he who Created Winne The Pooh AND Christopher Robin -- saw fit to name the book Winnie the Pooh, so perhaps the joke that started all this is about the book per se, instead of the bear. A |
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21 Sep 04 - 03:08 PM (#1277556) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: GUEST Amos it is ther because he is a boy bear. "And that is all the explanation you are going to get." |
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21 Sep 04 - 03:22 PM (#1277570) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Amos Guest: Oh,. go to Hull, why don't you? A |
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21 Sep 04 - 03:29 PM (#1277575) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: GUEST Thanks I was answering your question. You really have had a whack of the moany sticky. |
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21 Sep 04 - 05:21 PM (#1277667) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: CarolC Amos, the 'r' in 'ther' is silent. Who wrote the books and who were the books about? You are taking one minor thing and making it important...in your own opinion. They were written by Christopher Robin's father about Christopher Robin, and about what Christopher Robin had to say about his bear named Pooh. It's hardly a minor thing. It's very important, and that's not my opinion. |
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21 Sep 04 - 05:39 PM (#1277683) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Georgiansilver I have, as an antique dealer, owned many of the early books....As I recollect, the books are about Winnie the Pooh........not ther as you are saying. Also Winnie the Pooh is in common usage. I don't doubt that the conversation took place between CR and his dad but the books refer to Winnie the Pooh...yes or no? Best wishes. |
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21 Sep 04 - 05:39 PM (#1277684) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Chris Green What have an OFSTED inspector (UK school inspector) and a cosmetic surgeon got in common? One tucks features whereas the other..... |
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21 Sep 04 - 06:17 PM (#1277716) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: GUEST aaargggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....in the very first chapter of the first Winnie the Pooh story we get the explanation of his name. AA Milne asks Christopher Robin what he has called the bear that has become his faithful friend. Christopher Robin says he is called 'Winnie.' His father says that sounds like a girls name, and he thought the bear was a boy. To which Christopher Robin replies.."His name is Winnie Ther Pooh, don't you know what ther means?" His father the narrator of the tale then says.." Of course I do". And as an aside to the readers he adds.."And that is all the explanation you are going to get." But don't forget he also lives under the name Sanders. Time for a hunny sandwich and a lie down. |
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21 Sep 04 - 06:29 PM (#1277728) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: CarolC GUEST, 21 Sep 04 - 06:17 did a perfect job of setting you straight on this one, Georgiansilver, and it therefor requires no further comment from me. Bears and little boys are not the same thing as fathers. |
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21 Sep 04 - 06:39 PM (#1277738) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Amos Guest: Sorry -- please accept apologies for my shortness. Thanks for the edification, also! A |
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21 Sep 04 - 06:43 PM (#1277742) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Seamus Kennedy What do Jimmy the Greek, Popeye the Sailorman and Henry VIII have in common? Seamus |
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21 Sep 04 - 06:55 PM (#1277750) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: CarolC Not double dactyls, that's for sure! Only Popeye the Sailorman has those. (Thanks, Seamus, for the heads-up about a higgledy piggledy possibility I had not considered.) |
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21 Sep 04 - 07:16 PM (#1277769) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: GUEST,milk monitor No problem Amos! Please accept my forgetting to sign in. I am obviously a guest of very little brain....now cheer up, and that's an order. :) |
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21 Sep 04 - 07:19 PM (#1277772) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Georgiansilver Yes I know what you are saying and agree but the common usage of the name is Winnie the Pooh....and always will be. I am not nitpicking it is a fact. Best wishes. |
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21 Sep 04 - 07:37 PM (#1277784) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: GUEST,milk monitor Time for another hunny sandwich.......... |
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21 Sep 04 - 07:55 PM (#1277794) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: CarolC Georgiansilver, ask McGrath of Harlow to explain to you how irony works. He knows all about it. (Hint: this debate has never, at any time... at least from my perspective... been a serious one. It's a larf.) |
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21 Sep 04 - 08:04 PM (#1277801) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Chris Green Whats the difference between a footspa and a bodhran player? One bucks up the feet, whereas the other.... |
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21 Sep 04 - 10:26 PM (#1277887) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: Tannywheeler I resemble that remark. I'm married to a bodhran player and he doesn't -- um, well -- he does -- uh --I'm not here. Tw |
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21 Sep 04 - 11:08 PM (#1277904) Subject: RE: BS: What have.......? From: CarolC P.S. If we really want to get pedantic about it, "the" is not really the middle name of either Atilla the Hun nor Jack the ripper. It's a joke. ;-) |