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22 Sep 04 - 10:57 AM (#1278284) Subject: BS: US Election votes for the rest of us From: Stu It has been commented in several threads how great it would be for the rest of us to be able vote in the US election as the results have consequences for all of us hapless sods who don't live in the states. Well, try this: US Election for the Rest of the World You have the right! |
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22 Sep 04 - 11:03 AM (#1278289) Subject: RE: BS: US Election votes for the rest of us From: GUEST,Jon Oh well I have voted and gone for someone I'd not heard of - Dennis J. Kucinich. |
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22 Sep 04 - 01:31 PM (#1278412) Subject: RE: BS: US Election votes for the rest of us From: McGrath of Harlow Today's Guardian had a piece about this - Still no votes in Leipzig by Jonathan Freedland - and included a mention of a poll recently carried out in various European countries by Harris Interactive (HI Europe) which indicates that Bush would be lucky to keep his deposit if he had to depend on our votes over here. (I know candidates in the USA don't actually have deposits they forfeit if they score a derisory vote - it's an expression, because that's how it works here in UK parliamentary elections). Anyway, here is a link to the HI Europe site, with the figures from that poll. So, overall, Bush scores 9%, and Kerry gets 56%, when people were asked who they would vote for. And when it comes to predicting the result, 62% thought Kerry would win, and only 16% thought it would be Bush. Still, as Jonathan Freedland put it in his article "You would think those numbers would hurt Bush, making clear how unpopular he is in the world. But they don't. If anything they hurt Kerry, suggesting he is the candidate of limp-wristed foreigners and therefore somehow less American." And that is in spite of a Declaration of Independence that put great store by "decent respect to the opinions of mankind". |
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22 Sep 04 - 05:25 PM (#1278615) Subject: RE: BS: US Election votes for the rest of us From: GUEST,heric "Decent respect only required a thoughtful explanation of American reasons, not slavish obsequiousness to the opinion of others." decent respect Jefferson said that the Declaration was intended to "place before mankind the common sense of the subject, in terms so plain and firm as to command their assent, and to justify ourselves in the independent stand we are compelled to take." |
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22 Sep 04 - 05:40 PM (#1278624) Subject: RE: BS: US Election votes for the rest of us From: Bill D well, I see Bush is getting 100% of the vote in Qatar, Barbados, Oman, Panama and Uganda! The RNC will call it a trend! funny, the result overall is just about how I think it should go! |
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22 Sep 04 - 05:51 PM (#1278632) Subject: RE: BS: US Election votes for the rest of us From: GUEST And it's probably indicative of how the rest of the world thinks it should go. Hopefully the USA electorate will show more sense than the lunatic they voted in last time. |
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22 Sep 04 - 06:18 PM (#1278650) Subject: RE: BS: US Election votes for the rest of us From: GUEST,Claymore GUEST, As one who is voting for Bush, I must puckishly point out that the majority of Americans voted for Gore, though Bush got the electorial count. And considering Gore's ringing endosement of Clintons behavior in office, I must totally agree with you. |
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22 Sep 04 - 06:38 PM (#1278668) Subject: RE: BS: US Election votes for the rest of us From: McGrath of Harlow Surely the majority of Americans didn't vote for either Bush or Gore. More of those who did vote voted for Gore than Bush of course, but that's another matter. |
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22 Sep 04 - 06:48 PM (#1278675) Subject: RE: BS: US Election votes for the rest of us From: Chris Green Interestingly, in the countries that make up the "Coalition of the Willing", Bush doesn't appear to be doing too well, to say the least. |
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22 Sep 04 - 06:59 PM (#1278683) Subject: RE: BS: US Election votes for the rest of us From: Metchosin Uganda seems to want him. Think there's any chance he might be proclaimed president in the next coup there? |
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22 Sep 04 - 07:12 PM (#1278693) Subject: RE: BS: US Election votes for the rest of us From: McGrath of Harlow You mean the one person from Uganda who voted in that site stigweard linked to voted for Bush? And the same happened in Oman and Qatar. 100% in three countries, and all it took was three votes... |
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22 Sep 04 - 07:15 PM (#1278698) Subject: RE: BS: US Election votes for the rest of us From: Metchosin well, all it took was a very few votes to get him proclaimed in the US too. LOL. Think there's a lot of the average folk with computers in Uganda? |
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22 Sep 04 - 07:15 PM (#1278699) Subject: RE: BS: US Election votes for the rest of us From: Chris Green Ah! If only life were like that... |
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22 Sep 04 - 08:27 PM (#1278737) Subject: RE: BS: US Election votes for the rest of us From: beardedbruce And China splits evenly between Nader and Bush- so if this were a truely representative vote, they would be the viable candidates. |