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22 Sep 04 - 12:16 PM (#1278351) Subject: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: wysiwyg Teresa and I bumped into each other with a fun concept (hers) in the Tavern, that led me to wonder this-- If you were stuck somewhere, somewhen, and could not possibly escape/leave/be somewhere/somewhen else, WHERE would you most want to be, and WHEN (what time period)? And, once you were there, where/when do you think you would most miss being able to go? ~Susan |
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22 Sep 04 - 12:49 PM (#1278372) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: Rapparee Right now is fine for a time period, but anytime between 1992 and the present would be okay. I'd like to be here with my wife and brothers and neices and nephews if at all possible. And a whole BUNCH of good books. As to the geographic location -- again, this area isn't so bad. Neither is West Central Illinois. I would not like to be stuck in NYC or LA, though. |
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22 Sep 04 - 12:57 PM (#1278379) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: Bill D arrrggggg....are you sure you don't want to add "What one CD you would take along?" perhaps Greece during the Golden age?....Sit at the feet of Aristotle and help create Philosophy. and miss not being able to go to Philidelphia in 1776 and help apply Aristotle to that pesky Constitution that they never got 'quite' right... or maybe............nawwwww.....I'll just imagine the other 247 choices |
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22 Sep 04 - 12:58 PM (#1278382) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: Teresa Here, of course. All my BS notwithstanding. :) Ok, that doesn't count, at least not for that question. I'm not very place-time dependent. as long as I can hear folk music and read science-fiction ... ok, read Robert Silverberg while listening to Tim OBrien's _Songs From the Mountains_ I am happy. Really. T |
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22 Sep 04 - 01:07 PM (#1278389) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: frogprince I could be fine in any number of places, so long as my main squeeze would be there with me. For the heck of it, I'll say Old Quebec, present time. Eventually I would miss the chance to stroll the beach on Martha's Vineyard, though. |
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22 Sep 04 - 01:37 PM (#1278420) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: McGrath of Harlow Can I stay where I am? |
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22 Sep 04 - 01:40 PM (#1278425) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: Chris Green Sounds a tad corny, but I'd like to be the age I am now during the 60's/70's folk revival. I'm only 27 so I missed out on it! |
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22 Sep 04 - 01:45 PM (#1278432) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: Georgiansilver I lived through that period and would love to go back to just that...The thing I would miss most...My local Folk and Accoustic Clubs Best wishes. |
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22 Sep 04 - 01:57 PM (#1278442) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: LilyFestre The time period? Right now. I'd like to be "stuck" on a fully self sufficient homestead with my husband and with family and friends living nearby on their own farms. The thing I'd likely miss the most....thunderstormy afternoons spent sipping coffee and reading in big comfy chairs at Barnes and Noble. Michelle |
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22 Sep 04 - 02:02 PM (#1278453) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: Jeanie On stage at the Globe Theatre, Bankside, London any afternoon performance from 1599 to 1613 (before it caught fire !) If sex changes aren't allowed in this exercise, then: same place, the reconstructed Globe, in present/future time. I think it would be a very long time before I would miss anything or want to be anywhere else. If it were just one second of time to be stuck in: then that second before you go out on stage to perform anything, anywhere. You know you're going to be out there in the blink of an eye. Heavenly anticipation. - jeanie |
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22 Sep 04 - 02:13 PM (#1278462) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: wysiwyg All: The exercise has no rules! Just a starting point, leading so far to some interesting thoughts, well-shared. ~S~ |
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22 Sep 04 - 02:42 PM (#1278488) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: George Papavgeris Oxford, 1973. Preferably with my now-wife at her digs. That's where we met and that's where I first came into contact with folk music. |
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22 Sep 04 - 04:06 PM (#1278542) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: Ebbie Do we get to keep our present-day memories? And to live a really LONG time? |
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22 Sep 04 - 04:14 PM (#1278556) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: wysiwyg Sure! Why not? ~S~ |
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22 Sep 04 - 04:19 PM (#1278561) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: Liz the Squeak It would have to be CadburyWorld ("theme park" set in the Cadbury's chocolate factory) but without those singing cocoa beans, and with Sean Connery in the tasting room..... with one of the 'Air Guitar' CDs just for the hell of it! LTS |
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22 Sep 04 - 04:25 PM (#1278566) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: wysiwyg Sean Connery made of chocolate or Sean Connery AND the chocolate, Liz? ~S~ |
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22 Sep 04 - 04:32 PM (#1278576) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: kendall Here and now with the friends it has taken me 7 decades to make. |
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22 Sep 04 - 04:40 PM (#1278580) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: GUEST,Jon It would have to be musical. The Bangor Festival at its best would be a good candidate on a good year. The only time in my life I can remember asking to be kidknapped was on a day tip to Dublin following one of those events. That would lead me to wanting to be stuck in Hughes or Keatings... Maybe I'd go a back further back a couple put a few of us up for a long weekend in Dublin - I'd guess at 1990. Fine company, hospitality and some really good music including a party at their house where the carpets were rolled back and some engaged in set dancing till about 3am following a session in Hughes. The other side of the coin though is I think some of the appreciation comes from the fact things like that are not everyday events for me. I'm not convinced being stuck anywhere is as desirable as being able to consider the really enjoyable events something rare and precious when they occur. |
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22 Sep 04 - 06:18 PM (#1278651) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: LilyFestre Hey Susan, What about YOU? Where and when would you want to be stuck? What would you miss the most? Michelle |
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22 Sep 04 - 06:45 PM (#1278674) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: wysiwyg If only I knew! ~S~ |
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23 Sep 04 - 04:15 PM (#1279332) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: Mrrzy Does it count if you wanted to accomplish something, like going to Beirut in 1983 and not letting Dad go to the Embassy till after lunch when the bomb had already gone off? Or is that a separate thread? In case it is, hmmm... back in the 60's in post-colonial Africa was great, I'd like to be back there but at the age I am now, or, say, a decade younger; I'd miss going to Friday's After 5 here in Charlottesville, the outdoor weekly live concert, but then again I'd get a lot more African music in, when I was a teen we kinda listened to French Disco. If it can be somewhere I've never been, well, I'd have to think long and hard on that... On the other hand, if it can be somewhere that hasn't existed yet, I'd like to visit Niven's Known Space universe! Now THAT would be a fun time! |
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23 Sep 04 - 04:22 PM (#1279336) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: wysiwyg Aw, Mrrzy, of course you'd want to go to that moment, in Beirut, but you would not really want to be stuck in that moment, would you? Tell me more about this Niven's thing.... ~Susan |
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23 Sep 04 - 06:20 PM (#1279403) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: GUEST,Pete Peterson After dreaming of going with my truelove to Bristol Virginia toward the end of July 1927, or Spray NC any time between about 1925 and May 1931, I remember the couple of little pills I take every day which wouldn't be invented for another 60 years or so, and give thanks that I am right here when I am. Of course, traveling with Louis Wu through Known Space would probably mean they would have medicines that would cure my chronic conditions once and for all, but I wonder if I would be the equivalent of a red-shirt-wearing ensign on the Enterprise. As Oscar Otter said at the end of the eponymous book "I am happy right here where I am." |
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23 Sep 04 - 06:31 PM (#1279409) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: freda underhill 1974. Goannamanna - a little hand built stone farmouse near Little Hartley, NSW, surrounded by gum trees, with the river tinkling down past the front yard. |
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23 Sep 04 - 09:05 PM (#1279497) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: Ebbie Assuming we are going into the past, not into the future, have we stopped to think of just how many changes we will make in what is current history? The utilization of lectricity - and threfore, the recording industry - will be invented x centuries before it did happen. Interstate highways will have run across the continent for however long. Oh, dear, I just had an an awful thought- do you suppose someone came back to our current day and is rapidly changing it into what they are experiencing eons from now? If you follow that... |
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23 Sep 04 - 09:37 PM (#1279523) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: harpgirl The Dome, Montparnasse, 1907 or... The Dingo Bar a few years later or... a 27 Rue de Fleuris dinner party, or...at Saint Germain de Pres at Natalie Barney's literary Salon, or anywhere near the Carrefour Vavien between 1907 and 1927...that was easy I would miss most sailing in Les Cheaneux or Georgian Bay |
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23 Sep 04 - 10:58 PM (#1279571) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: Ebbie Inssert 'e'. |
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24 Sep 04 - 12:04 PM (#1280060) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: Mrrzy Definitely not want to be stuck there, you're right. (Typoed You're tight, but don't know if that is so...) Thread creep, but you asked: Larry Niven wrote several novels and a bunch of short stories in a consistent future universe with lots of interesting aliens who are really alien, not like Star Trek aliens who are usually not only humanoid (except the Gorn and the Horta, I guess) but also have very human motivations and, except for the metaphor people, very human language. In the Tales of Known Space, as the stories are collectively known, there is an herbivorous three-legged two-headed race whose entire ethos and world view, as befits an herbivore, is based on what humans call cowardice; there is a cat-like carnivorous race who are formidable warriors; there is a three-eyed race of gamblers who can see out of all sides of their heads; the humans have colonized various planets and are changed thereby, being tall and usually albino on one low-gravity planet, wide and punsters on a heavier planet, and there is an entire bunch that live in their ships and have colonized the asteroid belt who are very independent and often have a phobia of being on a planet. You should read them all, starting with a collection of short stories called Neutron Star, which introduces a lot of stuff. Also read The Mote in God's Eye, not in the Known Space series but the aliens are really, really alien and it percolates through their thinking and their language and everything. Very thorough, is Larry Niven, in thinking things through. |
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24 Sep 04 - 03:12 PM (#1280227) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: Jeri My 'Metaphor People' answer: Little Red Riding hood, before the wolf ate her granny. Mine is Toronto, 5-7 July, 2002. My life was the best it's been and probably the best it'll ever be. I knew it then, though. My world was expanding like a sun going super-nova. Well, it went, and life got darker in the time since. I've lost a friend, and discovered my expectations of other friends and life in general were set just a bit too high. I guess that's what bitterness is: blaming the world for not living up to your expectations. The only solution is to quit expecting things, but I haven't quite figured out how to do that. Where/when would I miss? It all comes down to things along the road from then to now, and there hasn't been that much. Although some friendships have mostly come apart, they probably weren't destined to be what I'd expected (there's that ol' 'e' word again!), other people I met because of that weekend have become friends or closer friends. Endings have caused new beginnings, my fears have forced me to find some new strength, I've learned more about myself and others. I've learned that paying attention to the good stuff happening right now is important, because there's no guarantee that tommorrow will be anywhere near as good, and you just can't go back. I've been inspired by a strong need to find some meaning just to make myself feel better, written a shitload of songs and have a little bit more belief in myself. I write songs based on darkness, but they come out being about the possibility there's some sign of light, because I have to do that to stay sane. I think I'd trade it all to go back, though, but time doesn't give us that chance. If it did, it's a good bet a lot of us wouldn't even grow up. |
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24 Sep 04 - 06:41 PM (#1280370) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: Bill D ah, Mrzzy, you take me back! Haven't read any Niven for years..(haven't read MUCH at all due to cataracts, now fixed...) Maybe I'll dig out Ringworld and some of the short stories and just lose myself! There were so many social issues raised in those books...all disguised as entertainment! ...and "Mote in God's Eye" remains one of the best yarns ever written! |
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24 Sep 04 - 08:24 PM (#1280449) Subject: RE: BS: If You Were Stuck..... From: Ebbie (10:58 PM) Remove "n". ?;~) |