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05 Oct 04 - 03:50 AM (#1288907) Subject: BS: Estaban Guitar vs. Martin D-45 From: Dewey Does anyone actually own an Estaban Guitar that the QVC lady claims to be equal (in most respects) to the Martin D-45. The QVC informercial asserts something of the following: Their's has lovely rosette, our's has lovely rosette. Their's is hand made, our's is hand made. Their's costs thousands. Ours is three payments of $66.00. Wow! Plus you get the dvd, and Estaban your smiling instructor (God's gift to Music) proudly seated, arms folded in reverance of his mighty abilities. And you also get to watch the great master as he tries to disturb this beautiful and priceless instrument: The "gift of guitar!". His gift EXCLUSIVELY to the rest of us. Anyway, is this Plywood Job even playable or audible? Or whould it make a better boat paddle? The "Master" (Estaban) plays and recommends it whole-heartedly! Dewey |
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05 Oct 04 - 05:03 AM (#1288948) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: GUEST Seems that I recall Roy Clark pushing something similar, but I've never seen him play one on The Opry and I always wondered "why not?" |
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05 Oct 04 - 05:08 AM (#1288950) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: kendall You may have noticed that this plywood abomination is always plugged into an amplifier. If he loves this thing so much, why doesn't he sell his Martin and just play this thing? The comparison is silly. Look it up on google and see what its competition says. It's plywood crap, pure and simple. "Hand made" by whom? Gorillas? |
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05 Oct 04 - 10:44 AM (#1289210) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Clinton Hammond "It's plywood crap, pure and simple." So it IS just like every other Martin out there then... |
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05 Oct 04 - 11:55 AM (#1289288) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Amos CLinton: Know you're messing with my religous beliefs, man. Knock it off!!!! A |
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05 Oct 04 - 12:01 PM (#1289299) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Clinton Hammond "Know you're messing with my religous beliefs, man." Just 'cause you say it with exclamation marks, don't make it mean sh!t to me... :-) |
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05 Oct 04 - 12:06 PM (#1289305) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Once Famous Of course Clinton Hammond has a problem with Martins. His best stuff is obviously played on a Stella C.1962 |
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05 Oct 04 - 12:09 PM (#1289307) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Clinton Hammond Best stuff? Don't you have to have GOOD stuff before you can have best stuff? LOL |
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05 Oct 04 - 12:11 PM (#1289314) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: frogprince Someone linked to a whole ream of customer feedback on that instrument a little while back; sounds like it would fall apart in your paint-stained hands (with the little cuts on your fingers from the frets) before you could paddle the canoe 50 yards. You might want to try to find some of the reviews for laughs. |
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05 Oct 04 - 01:40 PM (#1289401) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: dwditty Esteban will go down in history with Zamfir and Box Car Willie. |
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05 Oct 04 - 01:47 PM (#1289411) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Clinton Hammond Lucky bastard then! LOL |
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05 Oct 04 - 04:28 PM (#1289525) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: kendall He does play quite well, too bad he's destitute for money. |
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05 Oct 04 - 04:31 PM (#1289528) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Once Famous Hey, don't knock the late, great Boxcar Willie. He could sing a mean train song. |
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06 Oct 04 - 04:59 AM (#1289994) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Big Al Whittle do people watch QVC? I don't know anybody who does |
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06 Oct 04 - 08:11 AM (#1290091) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Dave the Gnome I always thought you could go down with Box Car Willie. Sounds like an interesting social disiese... :D |
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06 Oct 04 - 01:02 PM (#1290379) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: GUEST,Midchuck who upchucked his cookie What's the difference? All wood guitars are obsolete. (I just got a CA a couple of weeks ago and am still going through new-owner's euphoria. A couple of weeks from now I'll deny I said that. But they are great instruments.) (My cookie is gone 'cause I just downloaded Firefox and am just starting to use it. Seems to work good. Muck Ficrosoft!) Peter. |
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06 Oct 04 - 01:23 PM (#1290395) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Clinton Hammond One cannot make a good musical instrument outa plastic... |
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06 Oct 04 - 01:33 PM (#1290408) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Mooh CH...I used to think that until I got a plastic shaker egg. Damn good! Mooh. |
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06 Oct 04 - 01:43 PM (#1290420) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Tweed I must OBJECT!! This thread is obviously not bullshit and has musical connotations. Where is Joe Offer?? Somehow the universe has gone off kilter down here! Somebody help me,...the room is spinning..blood is pouring from my eyeballs....arghhhh...gahhhh |
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06 Oct 04 - 01:47 PM (#1290426) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Midchuck One cannot make a good musical instrument outa plastic... So I assumed for many years. Now I have one. Have you actually played or even heard a CA, or is your mind made up and you don't want to be confused with facts? But that's OK. As long as a lot of people keep thinking the way you do, the demand won't get too large and drive the prices up. But don't get hurt trying to ride your horse on the interstate. Peter. |
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06 Oct 04 - 01:54 PM (#1290436) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Clinton Hammond I havn't been close enough to one to have played it yet, but I have heard them... They sounded like cheep Ovations to me (to rhyme with sounding like cr@p) |
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06 Oct 04 - 02:38 PM (#1290465) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: DADGBE Here's a piece about Esteban Guitars (sic) copied from the Rock and Roll Confidential Forum on line. They'd be a lot better if the damned things were made out of actual plywood... So-called "Guitar legend" Esteban was stripped of his legendary status this week when it was discovered that he is an entirely fictional character created specifically to sell pressboard guitars in infomercials. Allan Holdsworth, guitar legend and president of "Real Guitar Legends For Truth" released a statement on Monday calling for the immediate cessation of all applications of the appellation "Guitar legend" to the television character known as "Esteban". According to the statement, "Esteban is a fictional character created by L.A. session guitarist Dan Fernaueu for the express purpose of marketing a cheap, poorly constructed guitar-like instrument on the Home Shopping Channel." The scandal intensified when the Recording Academy revealed that claims that "Esteban" had won "several Grammys" were false. These charges come on the heels of last month's statement from the Musical Instrument Manufacturers Association that the "Esteban" guitar could not, in fact, be classified as an actual guitar due to the fact that it is constructed out of reclaimed materials such as discarded telephone directories and medical waste. The MIMA demanded that the instrument be classified as a toy. |
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06 Oct 04 - 02:45 PM (#1290469) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Clinton Hammond If Esteban ain't real, then life ain't worth living! |
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06 Oct 04 - 03:04 PM (#1290480) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: dwditty Midchuck!!!! What now to do with my Collings 000? dw |
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06 Oct 04 - 03:50 PM (#1290521) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Big Al Whittle Comment ca va? |
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06 Oct 04 - 03:58 PM (#1290530) Subject: RE: BS: Estaban Guitar: The Next Martin D-45? From: Midchuck I can't speak for you, diddy, but I'm hanging on to mine - I can just be a little more choosy as to where and when I play it. Peter |