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21 Oct 04 - 08:38 AM (#1302769) Subject: PW Question: Tongue vs Slur From: Vixen G'Day Pennywhistling Mudcats... It's another question from the ignorant but ever-curious neophyte whistler... Being "paper-trained" I learned to tongue every note except those connected by slurs. Robin Williamson's book addresses slurring as a phrasing technique. At this point in my whistling career, I tongue most everything except when slurring seems to make for a smooth phrase, regardless of what the music says. Also, I find my pitch is more consistent if I tongue than if I slur... However, I have recently had the opportunity to listen closely to other whistlers, and I find some of them seem to slur everything, only tonguing occasionally. Others tongue more frequently, but still a lot less than I do. SO....how much do you tongue or slur notes when you whistle? OR....how much should I tongue or slur notes when I whistle? All thoughts appreciated--I'm off to browse other whistle threads here and Chiff 'n' Fipple to see what else I can find out... Thanks for all insights and advice!!! V |
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21 Oct 04 - 09:05 AM (#1302790) Subject: RE: PW Question: Tongue vs Slur From: Snuffy Playing for morris dancers, I probably tend to slur quite a lot, to give a smooth feel, but some sections demand the more staccato effect of tongueing. But it's not a hard and fast rule - I may slur the first time through and then tongue the next time, just to add a bit of variety. You can ring the changes all the way from tonguing each note to only tonguing when you take a breath! Certainly where notes are beamed together without a slur line, you would never be wrong to play them as a smooth sequence rather than separate tongued notes. But it's not compulsory either. If it sounds good to you, just go with it. |
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21 Oct 04 - 09:12 AM (#1302795) Subject: RE: PW Question: Tongue vs Slur From: The Fooles Troupe Depends on the style. There are also many forms of 'tonguing', just like there are many forms of 'staccato'. |
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21 Oct 04 - 10:29 AM (#1302894) Subject: RE: PW Question: Tongue vs Slur From: Leadfingers As a whistle player who got into whistle via Scottish pipes and Jazz clarinet and sax , my technique is a bit varied in that I tend to use a lot of Piping style 'grace notes' , as well as tonguing and slurring . I find that the 'grace notes' add a nice bit of decoration as well as separating melody notes . |
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21 Oct 04 - 06:08 PM (#1303283) Subject: RE: PW Question: Tongue vs Slur From: KateG The Irish tradition is derived from the pipes, and so tends to avoid tounging whenever possible. Individual notes are not toungued, and repeated notes are separated by ornaments or by a diaphram pulse. As someone trained in the classical tradition, it has been difficult to break myself of the tonguing habit when playing flute/whistle...but I'm working on it. Happy tooting! |
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22 Oct 04 - 08:01 AM (#1303755) Subject: RE: PW Question: Tongue vs Slur From: Vixen Dear All-- Many thanks for the info--most enlightening! V |