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08 Nov 04 - 05:28 AM (#1320240) Subject: BS: Mason - Dickson Line From: muppett Over the weekend I was listening to a Mark Knopler album I had for awhile now. One of the tracks, well the title track, he does duet with James Taylor called sailing to Philadelphia. The song tells of 2 guys going over t' America from England, one a gordie and one a West Country lad and they end up having the Mason - Dickson line named after them, can anyone tell more about this line then, is it something like the Greenich Merdian line and where does it run. Cheers |
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08 Nov 04 - 05:31 AM (#1320242) Subject: RE: BS: Mason - Dickson Line From: greg stephens Its a bit like the Grennwich Meridian except it goes across instead of up and down. It was designed to divide people who sang blues from people who didnt, but then some blues singers moved to Chicago and it all went wrong. |
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08 Nov 04 - 06:20 AM (#1320258) Subject: RE: BS: Mason - Dickson Line From: Dead Horse Greg. You gonna burn! |
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08 Nov 04 - 07:48 AM (#1320309) Subject: RE: BS: Mason - Dickson Line From: BanjoRay I've always been intrigued by the history of the Mason-Dixon Line, but, being an idle git, never enough to do some research. However, I've now been inspired by this thread, and here's the history: Mason-Dixon Line. Cheers Ray |
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08 Nov 04 - 07:56 AM (#1320318) Subject: RE: BS: Mason - Dickson Line From: muppett Cheers Ray for that link, it was very interesting Ta very muchly. |
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08 Nov 04 - 07:59 AM (#1320321) Subject: RE: BS: Mason - Dickson Line From: greg stephens Well I've followed that link and it doesnt say anything about blues singing at all. |
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08 Nov 04 - 09:57 AM (#1320419) Subject: RE: BS: Mason - Dickson Line From: Rapparee In the mid-1700s, when the M-D Line was being surveyed, what we know as the blues was still evolving from minuets, round singing, madrigals, and operatic arias. By the early 1800s, however, what was then called "the violets" (a precursor of the blues) was already demonstrating to musicologists what its future would be -- heavy metal rap music (I didn't say that it was a viable line, just a precursor). After Mogan David and Manischewitz windes became popular in the early 1900s, the blues took on its own life because it was now possible to truly feel the line, "Woke up this mornin' with my...." And that, by the way, is why it's known as the M-D Line. Yankees couldn't abide calling it the "Mogan David Line", and called it the "Mason-Dixon Line" instead. The original surveyors were two guys name William Roque and Harold Ireland, but there were copyright lawsuits about the use of the name "Roque-Ireland Line." |
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08 Nov 04 - 10:04 AM (#1320427) Subject: RE: BS: Mason - Dickson Line From: muppett Rapaire, run all that by me again, you've totally lost me, wot you on abart? |
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08 Nov 04 - 10:26 AM (#1320452) Subject: RE: BS: Mason-Dixon Line From: Dead Horse Right, here goes........ In the early 1800's scurvy was rife amongst seamen, and one of the symptoms was a darkening of the extremities. This gave rise to the name of one of the most famous of all shipping companies. When James. S. Baines wished to run his fleet of packets ships on the N.Atlantic trade, he wanted only prime sailors aboard his vessels, none of "yer lubbers" as sailed with his competitors. So he sent a message to all his captains to only sign seamen who have "had the scurvy" and were, therefore, old salts. He further told his captains that the best way to decide whether a sailor had ever had the complaint, was to check for a "darkening of extremities, in particular, discolorisation of the genitals" as limbs tended to revert to a more normal hue. This, of course, gave rise to "The Blackball Line". Boom Boom. |
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08 Nov 04 - 11:10 AM (#1320497) Subject: RE: BS: Mason-Dixon Line From: mack/misophist Very clever Rapaire. I like it better than the original storey. |
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09 Nov 04 - 12:14 AM (#1321107) Subject: RE: BS: Mason-Dixon Line From: Ebbie Rapaire, except for a minor error here and there, you've got it. I repeat: wot you on abart? :) |
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09 Nov 04 - 12:46 AM (#1321130) Subject: RE: BS: Mason-Dixon Line From: Peace LINE? LINE? What about the Mason-Dixon Lion that starred in the Ringling Brothers Circus, hey? Is nothing sacred anymore? What is it with you people? |
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09 Nov 04 - 01:57 AM (#1321169) Subject: RE: BS: Mason-Dixon Line From: dianavan So what do Mason Jars and Dixie Cups have to do with all this? d |
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09 Nov 04 - 04:37 AM (#1321244) Subject: RE: BS: Mason-Dixon Line From: Dead Horse Line dancing was invented by short sighted Apache indians, who wanted to see how many cowboys they could shoot in the head with just one arrow! |
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09 Nov 04 - 09:30 AM (#1321386) Subject: RE: BS: Mason-Dixon Line From: Rapparee Ebbie, muppet -- y'all just gotta have the background. Mad Dog 20/20, for instance. And try reading the post out loud, pronouncing "Roque" as "Rock." |
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09 Nov 04 - 09:41 AM (#1321396) Subject: RE: BS: Mason-Dixon Line From: muppett Rapaire are going t' share this background Mad Dog 20/20 then, as I still Don't know wot yer on abart, do you Ebbie or is it just me? |
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09 Nov 04 - 09:51 AM (#1321403) Subject: RE: BS: Mason-Dixon Line From: Rapparee Mogan David wines make a wine called "MD 20/20". MD = Mad Dog. It's a sweet kosher wine (as is Manischevitz) and will, if consumed in large quantities, produce a hangover of absolutely monumental proportions. Do a search for the lyrics to the song "Rock Island Line." |
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09 Nov 04 - 09:56 AM (#1321407) Subject: RE: BS: Mason-Dixon Line From: muppett Oh I see now cheers |
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09 Nov 04 - 03:33 PM (#1321798) Subject: uack!! From: Geoff the Duck Pretty sure the line has baan discussed and explained previously in Mudcay. Was the thread titled somethuing like "What / where is Dixie"? Q |
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09 Nov 04 - 03:35 PM (#1321802) Subject: RE: BS: Mason-Dixon Line From: Geoff the Duck Don't know what happened to the "spelling" finger on my tripewriter. I even managed to sign it wrong and send the post when attempting to delete the Q which appeared by magic when I tried to type "GtD" Quack!!! |