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BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon

12 Nov 04 - 02:36 PM (#1324839)
Subject: BS: Plane that hit the Pentagon
From: Peace

This link may not work. If it doesn't, please google it. It takes about a minute to load but it's worth watching, IMO.

http://www.elchulo.net/files/pentagon.swf

If someone could make this link blue that would be cool. Thank you.

Bruce M


12 Nov 04 - 02:38 PM (#1324841)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Clinton Hammond

Oh good gods...

I'm surprised it too ya this long to post this crap here...

What's next? Gonna try to debunk the moon landing???

Idiots... the world is full of idiots!

It's just soo unfortunate that so many of them are online


12 Nov 04 - 02:40 PM (#1324843)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Peace

Clinton, did you watch the movie?


12 Nov 04 - 02:42 PM (#1324845)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Clinton Hammond

Months ago... when it first came out brucie... it's a load of crap

At the very least, check snopes... a reputable site... they'll debunk the movie for you...


12 Nov 04 - 02:44 PM (#1324848)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Peace

I shall do that.


12 Nov 04 - 02:50 PM (#1324855)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Clinton Hammond

FYI, I was not callin' -YOU- an idiot Brucie... I was refering to the people who produce this kinda bullflop!

I am honestly surprized this piece of dung took so long to make it to mudcat though....


12 Nov 04 - 02:52 PM (#1324858)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Peace

Thanks, Clinton. Certainly if there is evidence to the contrary, I would like to know about it.


12 Nov 04 - 02:55 PM (#1324861)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: catspaw49

Complete crappola of the highest order.........El Clicko

Spaw


12 Nov 04 - 02:57 PM (#1324862)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: ToulouseCruise

I was just about to add that link myself, Spaw... the video DOES make one think, so it is great to have the Snopes link available...

"Just the facts, m'am"

Brian


12 Nov 04 - 02:59 PM (#1324863)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: catspaw49

Also a previous thread which links to another previous thread........CLANK

Spaw


12 Nov 04 - 03:19 PM (#1324883)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Peace

Thanks for the other links, Pat. Good to see.

It then leaves the question, CUI BONO?

However, thanks anyway.


12 Nov 04 - 04:13 PM (#1324925)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: GUEST,peedeecee

The only part of the whole thing that I've ever questioned is the non-release of various security camera films of the incident, taken from several perspectives. Why haven't those films been released by the FBI or other agencies? Wouldn't those films put these questions to rest?


12 Nov 04 - 04:25 PM (#1324933)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Rapparee

This is all gonna be news to my cousin in law, Mary. She was at work in the offices of the EPA in Crystal City on September 11 and saw the whole thing. She said it was a very large airplane, but she didn't know what type.

She watched the incident, grabbed her purse, and the next thing she remembers is being on the road to her daughter's school. Mary no longer will work "across the river" and now works out to the EPA offices in Maryland (where her home is).

Yes, a jet could travel that fast close to the ground if the pilot was suicidal -- which was the case here.


12 Nov 04 - 05:45 PM (#1325020)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Peace

The film link I posted asked some good questions, but I did NOT post it assuming it was a definitive 'take' on that event. I like peedeecee's remark: Exactly why were the various films not made available for PUBLIC scrutiny? Some of it seems like the Warren Report and the puff of smoke from the bushes on the knoll. It's like if we just ignore it, it will go away.

I have stated thanks to Pat for posting the links, and I have looked at them. Some stuff there refutes some stuff on the film. So let's not get upset when folks ask questions. Here's a question: Why does the FBI NOT release the footage it has?

Sorry to pee in the cornflakes.


12 Nov 04 - 07:19 PM (#1325092)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: DougR

Some folks will see a giant right-wing conspiracy in Christmas.

DougR


12 Nov 04 - 07:27 PM (#1325099)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: frogprince

Dang, Doug, I think that's twice now I've agreed with you.


12 Nov 04 - 08:30 PM (#1325134)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Phil Cooper

My brother was in the pentagon when it was hit. He also says it was a plane. From the other perspective, when Margaret, Kate and I played a coffeehouse in a Unitarian Church a year or so ago, there were pictures of Unitarian victims of 9/11. One was a photo of a family with two small children, all on a connecting flight to go to Australia for holiday. They, of course, were in the plane that hit the pentagn. I don't know how you'd tell their relatives that they weren't really involved.


12 Nov 04 - 09:31 PM (#1325195)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Peace

I would not say such a thing. Read what I wrote above.


12 Nov 04 - 09:49 PM (#1325206)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Bill D

the security camera photos WERE released...I saw them on TV soon after the crash...but they showed nothing because the plane was going so fast, it passed BETWEEN frames of the camera. The security camera was not a video, but an every-few-seconds set of snapshots. It showed nothing, then a fireball, which led conspiricy buffs to claim the explosion happened beside the building...though they had no idea how, or what happened to the missing plane!

"we got a hole in a building, and our jetliner ain't anywhere else, we are just guessin' we know what happened, especially with little airplane pieces scattered around"


12 Nov 04 - 09:53 PM (#1325212)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Peace

Thank you for that.


12 Nov 04 - 09:57 PM (#1325217)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: robomatic

There are more things out there to be believed than can possibly be true.


Think of that next time you pick a religion.


12 Nov 04 - 11:02 PM (#1325280)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: The Fooles Troupe

... or pick ON one...


13 Nov 04 - 09:18 PM (#1326136)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: GUEST,Chief Chaos

We had a camera system like that installed at our office building. It was motion activated to conserve film. But if you moved slowly it would never detect you. I'm assuming that at 300 mph it would have taken our cameras a more time to start (at less than a second in activation time)than it would take for the jet to actually pass their range.


13 Nov 04 - 11:48 PM (#1326194)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: GUEST,.gargoyle

We have more than one "chicken little" gathering at this watering-hole.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Kindred kind are gathering but they have yet.... to over-whelm the bullworks and enflame the masses.... keep spinning brucie, keep spinning, we all know McGrath....and soon we will know you.


14 Nov 04 - 01:44 PM (#1326553)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Peace

Gargoyle

We all know you, too.

Keep that in mind, pal.


14 Nov 04 - 04:43 PM (#1326688)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Wolfgang

It was the Pentagon itself using the attacks on the twin towers (of course they knew when it would come that's why no Jew was in those towers because they finance and control the US government) to test one of the new miniature nuclear devices and blame it on the terrorists. The part of the Pentagon blown up held the office of the only man in the Pentagon who knew that Osama Bin Laden is a half brother of G. W. Bush.

The plane and its passengers are held captive at that location where they have also shot the 'moon landing' film. Sometimes, if some of the prisoners are too homesick they are flown over some part of the USA in a new military craft using anti-gravitation for some spectacular flight manoeuvres. That gives rise to reports of UFOs. These reports are fueled by misinformation from the CIA who does not want anybody to know about the new weapons. The secret weapons program has the cover name 'mountain of pictures'.

Wolfgang


14 Nov 04 - 06:31 PM (#1326762)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: greg stephens

Wolfgang: how did you find this out? Fantastic, and it explains a lot of things. But you didnt mention Rosslyn Chapel or how the Cathars fit into the attcak.


14 Nov 04 - 06:32 PM (#1326764)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Peace

. . . or anything about Bohemian Grove, either.


14 Nov 04 - 07:09 PM (#1326793)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Rapparee

Jesus, the Germans are on to us!

Okay, they're all at a secret airbase outside Thule, Greenland, frozen in cryogenics chambers along with JFK, MLK, Marilyn Monroe, Janis Joplin, Hendrix, Elvis, and the crews of the nuclear submarines "Thresher" and "Seawolf." All of those who you think that died in the Vietnam thing are likewise frozen up there, because the Vietnam War was really done in a studio outside of Anaheim, California.

We also have the Holy Grail, the Book of Mormon, the Ark of the Covenant, and Noah's big boat there.

Now, at last, I can sleep soundly knowing that I have shared these truths with others.


14 Nov 04 - 07:23 PM (#1326809)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: mack/misophist

Wolfgang has developed an American style sense of humour! Poor fellow.


15 Nov 04 - 12:07 AM (#1326993)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Bill D

can I stop giggling uncontrollably now? Or is there more explaining where Amelia Earheart and Judge Crater are?....and hey! maybe that's why all these recent resignations at the CIA are happening!

and NObody has mentioned the famous Area 51.......ooops!


15 Nov 04 - 12:09 AM (#1326994)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Peace

Oh, heck Bill, I will. Area 51 doesn't exist.


15 Nov 04 - 12:11 AM (#1326995)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: chris nightbird childs

yuck...


15 Nov 04 - 09:52 PM (#1328076)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: michaelr

Just `cos you're not paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.


15 Nov 04 - 10:48 PM (#1328103)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Rapparee

I don't pay any attention to you. The voices in my head told me not to.


16 Nov 04 - 10:29 AM (#1328586)
Subject: RE: BS: 'Plane' that hit the Pentagon
From: Wolfgang

Addendum: 'Mountain of pictures' translated into German is 'Bilderberg'.

Wolfgang