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21 Nov 04 - 10:51 PM (#1334908) Subject: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: GUEST,.gargoyle Piggybackin on Mr. Rassmussen's most excellent Gutar thread
But a par-mutation of his thread. Are their excamples of Guitar bass riffs which are "signiture pieces accociated with particular groups.
I am thinking rock (Santana, Dead, Oingo, Doors, Starship, Messina) They are riffs that can stand alone in the piece and become ingrained in the group....so much so that one hearing them the audience immediatedly identifies.
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21 Nov 04 - 10:56 PM (#1334911) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Peace |
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21 Nov 04 - 11:14 PM (#1334920) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: GUEST,Songster Bob The first thing that comes to my mind is the bluegrassers' favorite "Lester Flatt G run," an octave run that starts on the low G and goes: G-A-Bb-B-D-E-D-G (the timing is not one count per note, and is hard to reproduce in text alone). If you've heard a bluegrass song, you've heard this run, or a permutation of it in another key. There are blues riffs that are bass motifs, like Leadbelly's opening to "Mr. Tom Hughes' Town," a riff he uses in other songs as well. I can't bring many others to mind, but I'm sure there are a bunch. And Maybelle Carter tended to play whole tunes in the bass notes, though these don't "count" as "riffs," to be honest. Bob Clayton |
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21 Nov 04 - 11:15 PM (#1334922) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: PoppaGator The Beatles' "Rain" was the first song on which I ever played electric bass. The bass part really seemed to be the heart of that particular number. After a few repetitions of a nifty little bass figure, there's a passage consisting of a single bass note played over and over. I think Paul McCartney is probably underrated as an innovative player on his adopted instrument. Not a technical virtuoso, but a lyrical and very original bassist. |
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21 Nov 04 - 11:23 PM (#1334926) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: PoppaGator Ooops -- is this supposed to be about bass riffs on the guitar, but not riffs on the bass guitar -- ?? But you did say "I am thinking rock"... :) When thinking of the Dead, the first bass riff that come to my mind is Phil's thundering underpinning of the lines "Coming/coming/coming around" in "The Other One." (Hope that's not a mondegreen -- I've never worried about understanding all those nutty lyrics, as many times as I've listened, as many versions as I've witnessed.) |
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21 Nov 04 - 11:39 PM (#1334936) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: chris nightbird childs Two words Ladies and Gentlemen... The Ox! |
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22 Nov 04 - 03:35 AM (#1335021) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: alanabit McCartney's bass on "Come Together" is the engine of the song. I also like Jack Bruce's simple, but essential bass line on "Badge". |
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22 Nov 04 - 04:08 AM (#1335037) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: s&r Folsom prison blues; Smoke on the Water I Shot the Sheriff Stu |
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22 Nov 04 - 04:14 AM (#1335042) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Paco Rabanne Andy Fraser of Free. He was most godlike in all their music. |
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22 Nov 04 - 04:14 AM (#1335043) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Scabby Douglas Beatles: Ticket To Ride |
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22 Nov 04 - 06:37 AM (#1335120) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Cluin Anything Luther Perkins did on John R. Cash's records. (there was actually only one riff and he played it on everything and by all accounts could STILL never get it right come recording time) |
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22 Nov 04 - 07:50 AM (#1335170) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Grab Cream: Sunshine of your love. Nancy Sinatra: These boots are made for walking Peggy Lee: Fever Elvis: Jailhouse rock Status Quo: Down down (and a bunch of others) There's a strong argument for the bassline in Procol Harum's "Whiter shade of pale" too (nicked from "Air on the G string"). Yes, there's a lead part, but the bassline is what makes it. Graham. |
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22 Nov 04 - 09:35 AM (#1335230) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Mooh Obladi Oblada (Beatles), How Many More Times, Dazed and Confused (Led Zeppelin)...Mooh. |
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22 Nov 04 - 10:18 AM (#1335247) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Scabby Douglas Another Beatles one: Lady Madonna Although if memory serves, it was substantively derived from a number called "Bad Penny Blues"... |
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22 Nov 04 - 12:08 PM (#1335349) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Chris Green Money by Pink Floyd. And it's in 7/4! |
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22 Nov 04 - 12:21 PM (#1335361) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Once Famous Detroit City by Bobby Bare Hard Ain't It Hard by The Kingston Trio (Opening notes) MTA by the Kingston Trio (also in the intro) Rebel Rouser by Duane Eddy Now that's what I call an eclectic grouping. |
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22 Nov 04 - 01:20 PM (#1335428) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Mooh I don't know if it's doubled on bass, but the riff to Crazy Train (Ozzie Osbourne et al) is in the bass range and is not only quite clever but makes a great exercise for both hands on the guitar. It's a real pleaser for the younger student too. Peace, Mooh. |
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22 Nov 04 - 01:21 PM (#1335430) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: GUEST,guest support mental health and avoid gargoyle threads. he is very sick |
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22 Nov 04 - 01:51 PM (#1335456) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Cluin Roy O's "Pretty Woman" |
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22 Nov 04 - 01:53 PM (#1335461) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: john c |
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22 Nov 04 - 01:59 PM (#1335468) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: john c Sorry 'bout that, chaps.......what I meant to say was - The White Stripes & Seven Nation Army. Top notch, honestly! And Macca WAS bloody good. And Ringo too. Trust me.... |
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22 Nov 04 - 02:31 PM (#1335505) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: chris nightbird childs That is actually a guitar, but.... |
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22 Nov 04 - 03:12 PM (#1335558) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Bassic "Meet me on the corner" by Lindisfarne. On the original record the Bass was right at the "front" in the mix. The second part of "The Chain" by Fleetwood Mac.........the famous bit used by the BBC for its intro theme for Fomula 1 Motor Racing coverage until they lost out in the bidding wars for the TV rights a few years ago. |
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22 Nov 04 - 04:52 PM (#1335678) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Justa Picker "A Remark You Made" - Jacko Pastorius / Weather Report |
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22 Nov 04 - 04:55 PM (#1335681) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Justa Picker ...from the "Heavy Weather" album (same one that has "Birdland".) |
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22 Nov 04 - 04:55 PM (#1335682) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Cluin Day Tripper |
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22 Nov 04 - 05:46 PM (#1335771) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: GUEST,Bob - a bassist how 'bout the lead into wherever I lay my hat, by Paul Young, played by Pino Paladino. He makes that fretless sing! |
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22 Nov 04 - 05:48 PM (#1335774) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Cluin Theme to Seinfeld Theme to Barney Miller |
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23 Nov 04 - 01:40 PM (#1336668) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Wesley S Headhunters by Herbie Hancock Lowrider by War Fire by Jimi Hendrix and the coolest bass riff of all time... Money by the O'Jays |
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23 Nov 04 - 06:30 PM (#1336987) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Richard Bridge Stones (perf) - Money. Albert King - Born under a bad sign. Steve Miller - Mercury Blues. Floyd - Heart of the Sun Plastic Penny ( oh God what was the name of their hit?) Tyla Gang - Yachtless Millions of different people - Good Morning Little Schoolgirl. 10 Years After (perf) - Help me Sly and Family Stone - Family Affair Chantays - Pipeline Duane Eddy - everything he ever did Shadows - Rise and Fall of Flingel Bunt Cream - Politician Cream - Sunshine of Your love Iron Butterfly - In - a - gadda - da - vida Stones - Satisfaction Mayall - the Stumble Elmore James - Dust my Broom Johnny Kidd (bass guitar, not guitar bass strings) - Shakin' all over Doors - Backdoor Man Doors - Whisky Bar There was a French hit in the late 60's "Did you ever see, sunlight, shining on the trees -----" I forget who did it, Killer riff in double time Nilsson - Jump into the Fire. Must be milllions.... |
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24 Nov 04 - 06:10 AM (#1337423) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Big Al Whittle intro of King of the road by roger miller |
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24 Nov 04 - 11:18 AM (#1337713) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: fat B****rd Dear Richard Bridge. The Plastic Penny's hit was "Everything I Am" ATB from the fB. Peter Gunn has gotta be the one. Scotty Moore said he played the lovely opening bass line (on Guitar)and sat out the rest of the session for Don't Be Cruel. Great riff though. Eh ?? |
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24 Nov 04 - 12:27 PM (#1337816) Subject: RE: Guitar - Bass Riffs as a 'Lead' From: Mooh Lots of good bass soloists too, like in the Who, the Atlantic Rhythm Section...maybe worth a Google...here I go. Mooh. |