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12 Dec 04 - 02:25 PM (#1354848) Subject: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute.? From: punkfolkrocker Hi.. My wife has recently insisted i indulge her nostalgia whims with a couple of DVD boxsets of early Beverly Hillbillies episodes.. ..big disapointment..!!! just same as current UK satellite TV reruns.. the vital origional theme song is missing and has been replaced with generic banjo soundlibrary music.. I presume there must be some kind of legal rights / money conflict.. though cant find any explaination. the song is a integral part of this classic comedy series.. and we justifiably feel downright cheated.. obviously, i've managed to download an mp3 for her.. but i'll be buggered if i rip the DVDs and re-edit every episode to restore the origional theme song to its essential place.. so does anyone know the exact story and details of why the song is being excluded.. |
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12 Dec 04 - 04:52 PM (#1354947) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute.? From: Ebbie A small segue here- Jerry Scoggins, the man who sang the song on the TV show, died at the age of 93 last Friday. |
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13 Dec 04 - 08:50 AM (#1355517) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute.? From: John MacKenzie Come listen to my story bout a man named Jed A poor mountaineer barely kept his family fed The one day he was shootin' at some food When up through the ground came a'bubblin' crude Spoken:- Oil that is, black gold Texas tea. Well next thing you know old Jed's a millionaire An' his kinfolk said better move away from there Said California's the place you ought to be So they loaded up the truck and they moved to Beverly Spoken:- Hills that is, swimmin' pools, movie stars. Etc. My favourite character was Miss Hathaway, and apropos of another thread there was a cat called Marmalade too. Giok |
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13 Dec 04 - 08:57 AM (#1355524) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute.? From: InOBU Sorry I don't have info about the theam song, but for Giok... when I was a ween, at the Downtown Community School in New York, a wee communit school in New York, Miss Hathaway, was passing on the street, we were all HUGELY impressed and lined up to say hello to her. What a wonderful person, she realized how much it meant to us, the Beverly Hillbillys was in its first run and BIG, she went down the line and shook hands, spoke to each of us, and assured us, yes it was really her. I still remember it with such joy, Cheers Lorcan |
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13 Dec 04 - 08:57 AM (#1355525) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute.? From: InOBU that should read, wee communist school... |
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14 Dec 04 - 07:42 AM (#1356449) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute.? From: Bernard The legal answer is lapsed copyright licenses. The show and the theme tune have separate copyrights and are licensed for use separately... In common with a few other old TV series which have been revived, when the show wasn't being aired, the licences to use the material lapsed, and when they decided to renew the licenses it wasn't deemed commercially viable to renew the licenses for both the show and the theme tune... Interesting, because it would involve a fair bit of post-production work to remove all traces of Messrs. Scruggs, Flatt and Scoggins! |
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14 Dec 04 - 08:20 AM (#1356477) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute.? From: GUEST Miss Hathway ran successfully for congress, did you know? I think she died not long ago. Does anybody have the parady lyrics that are about the 1,100 pund feral hog? It's called: The Ballad of Hogzilla and is sung to the tune of Beverly Hillbillies or the Ballad of Jed Clampet as it is sometimes called. I've heard it on the radio once or twice and would LOVE to have the lyrics. I think it goes something like this... Well listen to a story 'bout a piggie who was overfed... something like that. Maybe we can write our own. There's another Hogzilla parody out an about to the tune of Kentucky Moon keep on Shining. Hogzilla is sooo kewl. Nobody seems to believe he's for real BUT...carcasses of 900 pound feral hogs have been found frequently. The meat's no good to eat so they usually get shot, burned or buried. I believe in Hogzilla..not Santy claus..but Hogzilla. |
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14 Dec 04 - 12:49 PM (#1356763) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute.? From: Juan P-B And at the end........... Well, now it's time to say "Goodbye" to Jed and all his kin They would like to thank you folks for kindly dropping in You're all invuted back next week to this locality To have a heapin' helpin' of their hospitality Hillbilly that is.... Set a spell.... Take your shoes off! |
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14 Dec 04 - 01:23 PM (#1356795) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute.? From: Nerd Yes, we had this discussion about the "Robin Hood" TV show, too. Same deal: the theme song was not licensed for the DVD releases! |
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14 Dec 04 - 01:33 PM (#1356797) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute.? From: Little Robyn Y'll come back now. |
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14 Dec 04 - 05:10 PM (#1356973) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: Hollowfox There might be a copyright hangup on the theme song, as I seem to remember it being credited to Flatt & Scruggs. Extra points to anyone who remembers them doing a guest star appearance on one of the episodes. |
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14 Dec 04 - 05:15 PM (#1356979) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: Cluin I remember. |
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14 Dec 04 - 05:17 PM (#1356982) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: Once Famous So do I. Actually they did about one guest shot a season. |
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14 Dec 04 - 05:58 PM (#1357012) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: Bernard I remember, too! Dazzling white outfits and big hats!! |
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14 Dec 04 - 06:11 PM (#1357021) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: GUEST,JTT It says "Press here to hear theme": http://www.pcperspectives.com/hillbillies/ but it's the one at the *end* of the show, not the beginning. There seems to be a CD: The Beverly Hillbillies by Original Soundtrack Format: Compact Disc - see all formats Released: 09/28/1993 Label: Fox UPC: 078636631325 I found it on mysimon.com |
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14 Dec 04 - 09:36 PM (#1357143) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: GUEST,Hogzilla fan yes, all well and good but..what about Hogzilla? |
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01 Jan 05 - 07:56 PM (#1369054) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: GUEST,Russ (UK) I don't think they took too much time in re-editing these episodes to exclude the theme, they basically made a begining and end with generic music and just cut it on the begining and end (rather crudely too) you can hear just after the opening credits a crappy pop in the sound (not even a fade!) and then....strangley on a couple it follows with a brief instrumental of the theme tune as some episodes of tv programes start, but they couldn't cut this out as dialog starts before the music stops!. One thing i do remember about the begining though that's missing is that originally you say Jed shoot at the ground a Crude oil started a bubbling! (am i right?) but they just use a shot of them in the car driving through beverly hills with that awful generic music! It's a Shame really as this was the main thing anyone remembers! |
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01 Jan 05 - 08:15 PM (#1369072) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: pdq Actually, 'Miss Hathaway' did not win her bid for the U.S.House of Representatives. Buddy Ebsen did a political spot opposing her where he said "she's just too liberal!". She never spoke to Ebsen again. Here is some more from 'the net'... "Nancy Kulp was born in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania on August 28, 1922. She graduated from Florida State University with a bachelor's degree in journalism and continued her education at the University of Miami, but in 1951, she left Florida for Hollywood, where she had aspirations of a career in television journalism. After only three weeks, she was given a plum role in the movie, The Model and the Marriage Broker. Other acting jobs soon followed incluing parts on "I Love Lucy," "The Red Skelton Show," and "December Bride" to name a few. From 1955 to 1959, Kulp starred as pith-helmeted neighborhood bird-watcher, Pamela Livingston, in "Love That Bob," a popular 1950s sitcom starring comedian Bob Cummings. In 1962, she landed the role of Jane Hathaway, the sex-starved perennial spinster, on "The Beverly Hillbillies." She remained with the show until its cancellation in 1971. In 1967, she received an Emmy Award nomination for her role, but lost out to Shirley Booth for "Hazel." Kulp, who changed the spelling of her last name from C-u-l-p so as not to be confused with fellow actor Robert Culp, didn't work much after the series ended in 1971. Following her success on the Hillbillies, Kulp could be seen as a guest star on a few television shows and performed on Broadway in Mornings at Seven. She appeared in the 1981 made-for-TV sequel, The Return of the Beverly Hillbillies, along with Ebsen and Donna Douglas. In 1984, she sunk her life savings into an unsuccessful political campaign to win the seat for the Ninth Congressional District in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives. Reportedly, she and Buddy Ebson had a difference of political opinion over the election and neither spoke to the other afterwards. After her defeat, Kulp worked for Juniata College in Pennsylvania as an Artist in Residence. She was married at one time to Charles Dacus, but divorced him by the time she won her Hillbillies' role. At the age of 67, she reportedly admitted to being a lesbian saying in reponse to the question "Do you find that opposites attract?" ..."I find that birds of a feather flock together." Nancy Kulp died of cancer in 1991 at her home in Palm Desert, California." |
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02 Jan 05 - 08:19 AM (#1369298) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: GUEST,Dave Roberts, Salt Town poets When these Beverley Hillbillies shows were first shown on Granada TV in the North West of England in the early 60s, the opening theme was intact, but the end was very crudely cut off with a simple caption reading THE END. Granada used to employ this abrupt and unprofessional method of ending most imported shows. We never heard the closing theme (or even suspected its existence) until the shows were repeated years later. I imagine the show sounds/looks very odd without that distinctive theme and incidental music. |
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03 Jan 05 - 11:17 PM (#1370602) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: GUEST,Tom T The song was written by Paul Henning. As mentioned above, Jerry Scoggins sang the lyrics on the TV show. Lester Flatt sang on the record. Lyrically, the only significant difference on the recording was the spoken part at the very end, where Mr. Flatt says, "Beverly Hillbillies, that's what they call'em now. Nice folks. Y'all come back now, y'hear?" Mr. Flatt was leery of the project at first, his concern being that the show would make fun of country people. One of the producers convinced him by explaining that the hillbillies would always end up outsmarting the city slickers. Lester Flatt (guitar) and Earl Scruggs (banjo) were both veterans of Bill Monroe and His Bluegrass Boys. Before Scruggs, no banjo player could play fast enough to keep up with Monroe's band, using the traditional frailing or "clawhammer" playing style. At home in North Carolina, Scruggs developed a unique three-finger style of playing that employed finger picks on his first two fingers and thumb. It made it sound like he was playing at a thousand miles and hour. That's what your hearing on the 'breakdown' portion of the song (the fast part with no lyrics.) Somebody brought Scruggs to audtion for Monroe, who immediately hired him, and the band turned Nashville on its ear. Bill Anderson tells the story that backstage at the Grand Old Opry, when Sam McGee heard Scruggs made his debut, he looked forelornly down at his banjo and said, "Well, I think I'll take mine home and build a hen's nest in it!" Like many musicians over the years, Scruggs burned out from Monroe's ruthless tour schedule and left after about 18 months. Flatt also left a short time later, and convinced Scruggs that they should form their own band. Flatt and Scruggs and the Foggy Mountain Boys were inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame in 1985. Earl Scruggs is still performing. He even made an impressive appearance on the David Letterman show a couple years ago, backed up by his son Randy, Vince Gill, Marty Stuart, and commedian Steve Martin, who plays a pretty mean banjo! Tom |
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22 Mar 05 - 08:56 AM (#1440455) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: Dave'sWife National Geographic Documentary Confirms Hogzilla's Existence Only lyrics I ever found about Hogzilla were these and I can't say for certain these are the ones that were circulating back when the photos of him were first hit the web: To the tune of Beverly Hillbillies: Well, listen to a story 'bout a Piggy who was overfed til' a farmer in Alalapha done shot that sucker dead Hogzilla was his name and he weighed in at half a ton but now his carcass is just a bunch of rottin' bacon pork that is... what a waste... There simply HAS to be more verses than this! I 've also seen the first line quoted as : "this here's the story 'bout a piggy what was overfed" as well as a version where the farmer line has the actual farmer's name, Ken Holyoke or somesuch. |
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19 Feb 06 - 08:57 PM (#1673391) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: Nigel Parsons Dave's wife: Needs a little attention to scansion if you want to sing it to the original. Well, listen to a story 'bout a Piggy who was overfed til' a farmer in Alalapha done shot that sucker dead Hogzilla was his name and he weighed in at half a ton but now his carcass is just a bunch of rottin' bacon pork that is... what a waste... Now, listen to a story, 'bout a pig was overfed. (lose two syllables) til' a farmer in Alalapha done shot that sucker dead Hogzilla was his name and he weighed in at half a ton But now he's been reduced to a pile of cheap bacon (lose two syllables) Cheers Nigel |
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19 Feb 06 - 09:52 PM (#1673427) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: GUEST,Dale Then there was Uncle Dave Macon's reaction to Scruggs' banjo style. (paraphrasing here, imperfect memory at work) "He plays the banjo pretty good, but he's not one damn bit funny." |
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19 Feb 06 - 10:09 PM (#1673439) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: GUEST,Gene the tune to the song is not original... i ran across an old 30s tune that it was probably patterned after... have it somewhere---but don't recall where at the moment... |
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26 Feb 06 - 09:21 AM (#1679271) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: kendall Come and listen to my story 'bout a man named Bill, A poor president barely kept his critics still Then one day he was wondering what to do In through the door come a bumbling crew Kids, mostly, non smokers Stephenopolis... |
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26 Feb 06 - 10:03 AM (#1679293) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: Mr Happy Come and listen to my story 'bout a man named Jed Couldn't find a toilet so he went behind the shed Couldn't find no paper so he used some leaves and grass Along came a bumblebee and stung him on the grass!! |
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26 Feb 06 - 08:47 PM (#1679864) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: dick greenhaus re quotes about Earl: Frank Profitt said, "I'd like to be able to play like him, and then not do it." |
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08 May 07 - 08:24 PM (#2046581) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: GUEST,Bookworm I don't know about the Beverly Hillbillies, but the Ballad of Hogzilla can be found at http://balladofhogzilla.zoomshare.com Bookworm |
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08 May 07 - 09:09 PM (#2046608) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: oldhippie There is this parody: The Killaloe Rastaman Rick Reimer (with gratitude and apologies to Lester Flatt and Earl Scruggs) Come, we tell you little story about a guy named Bob A proud Rastaman, didn't want to steal nor rob But he had to feed his family, things were getting hard So he plants a little ganja in his backyard Pot, that is, Acapulco Gold, Sensi tea Well, the first thing you know, those plants are getting tall The neighbours come and suss-suss-suss and look over the wall They said "Hey, Bob! Growing ganja you can't do!" He loaded up his seeds and he moved to Killaloe. Hills, that is, swimming holes, shooting stars. Well, the folks in the hills liked having Bob around He grew the finest ganja from here to Wilno town He lived in the woods, didn't do no-one no harm And the buds on his plants grew as thick as your arm. Well, there's just one little mix-up about life in Killaloe There's way too much police, with not enough to do When rastaman grows ganja it just takes a little time Till Johnny Law comes to the scene of the crime Felony, that is, helicopters, tazer guns. Well the police find so much ganja, that they can hardly wait They build a great big fire and begin to eradicate They tell Bob: "You're lucky we don't charge you for your sin!" Only trouble is, police are standing downwind From the ganja fire, that is, second-hand smoke, munchies big-time. Well, the police get high and they forget to look around They get their lights a-flashing and they leave for Pembroke town They eat all the food that Tim Horton's can provide Every doughnut shop got a cruiser outside Well, the folks in the hills, they smell the ganja fire They look upon the burning field and cry and cry and cry Says Bob: "I got a secret tucked up under my hat. I got three more fields bigger than that!" Well, the moral of the story is very plain to see You needn't be an Einstein to fool the O.P.P. If you are only conscious and prepared to stand tall Babylon systems surely must fall! |
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08 May 07 - 09:31 PM (#2046617) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: M.Ted Since this thread has been dredged up again, it gives me a change to correct a statement from TomT's post above: "Before Scruggs, no banjo player could play fast enough to keep up with Monroe's band, using the traditional frailing or "clawhammer" playing style." Actually, Dave "Stringbean"Akeman, who played banjo with the Monroe band before Flatt, kept up pretty well. Different technique, though--and it is Scruggs 3-finger style that is the characteristic bluegrass sound. |
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08 May 07 - 09:47 PM (#2046633) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: JedMarum Great song! Where does clawgrass fit into the banjo story? |
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08 May 07 - 10:31 PM (#2046658) Subject: RE: Beverly Hillbillies theme song dispute? From: Metchosin Well my swinging slug song wasn't quite up to Killaloe Rastaman, but at one time I thought it had promise.... Mighty Hermaphroditey (to the tune from the Beverly Hillbillies) Oh I'm mighty Hermaphroditey and I leave a slimey trail And I don't know how to tell my horny head from little tail But it doesn't really matter for each paramour I find, Slip-sliding down the garden path is also gender blind. Well that's the way we romp and play, yes, me and all my kin So kindly spare the salt and beer it'll surely do us in And remember in the garden, when you see that silver line, Our speeds not slow, as swingers go, some think it's 69. |