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18 Dec 04 - 09:41 AM (#1360357) Subject: BS: Land Of The Free From: Greg F. Clueless. 44 percent of Americans want to restrict civil rights of Muslim- Americans; results called "disturbing" By WILLIAM KATES, Associated Press First published: Saturday, December 18, 2004 ITHACA -- Nearly one in two Americans believe the U.S. government should restrict civil liberties for Muslim-Americans, according to a nationwide Cornell University poll on terrorism fears. The survey also found respondents who identified themselves as highly religious supported restrictions on Muslim-Americans more strongly than those less religious... |
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18 Dec 04 - 10:14 AM (#1360366) Subject: RE: BS: Land Of The Free From: frogprince Please, let this fall apart under examination somehow; a survey with badly worded questions, or something... |
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18 Dec 04 - 10:27 AM (#1360367) Subject: RE: BS: Land Of The Free From: Amos I join you in your prayers, frogprince. Just some kind of yellow journalism, the sad result of too many Republicans peeing in the snow. A |
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18 Dec 04 - 10:55 AM (#1360386) Subject: RE: BS: Land Of The Free From: Little Hawk Like a dog, they fervently want the World to know: "I was here, and I run things around here!" |
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18 Dec 04 - 11:03 AM (#1360392) Subject: RE: BS: Land Of The Free From: SINSULL Ithaca, NY is the home of Manur Rafizadeh, an Iranian who has owned a bottled water plant and a dairy farm since the 70s. The natives have never been pleased. |
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18 Dec 04 - 11:03 AM (#1360394) Subject: RE: BS: Land Of The Free From: SINSULL Mansur |
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18 Dec 04 - 12:09 PM (#1360437) Subject: RE: BS: Land Of The Free From: kendall "There is nothing as scary as ignorance in action" Goetha' When I was a boy during WW2 we had a bakery in town owned by a man named Derksen. People thought it was german and stopped trading there. Damn fools didn't know he was a DANE!! |
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18 Dec 04 - 12:09 PM (#1360439) Subject: RE: BS: Land Of The Free From: dianavan Yes, it does depend on how the question was worded. Do they also agree that civil liberties should be restricted for all Americans? Seems to me that civil liberties, in general, are not valued by many Americans or they wouldn't be putting up with the invasion of privacy that is prevalent today. |
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18 Dec 04 - 12:25 PM (#1360453) Subject: RE: BS: Land Of The Free From: Ebbie It's being covered all over the place. "Forty-eight percent of Americans said the group's rights shouldn't be restricted. The survey, which was commissioned by the Media and Society Research Group at Cornell's Department of Communication, is based on 715 telephone interviews. It has a margin of error of 3.6 percent, Cornell said in a statement on its Web site." From a Different Site |
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18 Dec 04 - 01:09 PM (#1360491) Subject: RE: BS: Land Of The Free From: InOBU Hey! Let's make this a Music Thread!!!! Home of the Brave and Land of the Free Words by Lorcan Otway, tune Dark Ships in the Forrest (more or less) all rights resv. By Bennington's fields in the steel light of dawn crouched by a stone wall, where I knew they'd come on Musket primed for a foe from far over the wave in the land of the free and the home of the brave In this fledgling nation, just learning to fly we rallied to Shays vowing live free or die George Washington's killers chased thousands like me our crime being brave, our intent to be free In tobacco fields my mother's labor pains brought me to the life of the lash and slave chains I fled north to Canada from slavery to the home of brave and the land of the free See Crazy Horse riding now over the plain To greasy grass battle, a victory to gain From Yellow Hair's murders his people to save the Lakota live free in the home of the brave In a dark prison cell, I barely can see Hans Yoder who lies bruised and tortured like me We Quakers and Amish no Great War will fight We bravely sought freedom from tyranny's might With great grandfather's musket I offered the fight to a coward in a jet plane who struck in the night My forefathers in these mountains like me made Afghanistan home to the brave and the free So now in these days when the banners all wave ask yourself what is freedom and where are the brave have courage to stand with the brave and the free when your nation strays from the path of liberty |
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18 Dec 04 - 02:25 PM (#1360550) Subject: RE: BS: Land Of The Free From: Bill D funny problem, ain't it...if you profile and persecute people based on religious and racial/cultural grounds, you end up making life miserable for thousands of perfectly honest, nice folks...but if you are fair, reasonable people and give everyone the benefit of the doubt, you allow the few bad ones to easily bide their time and do damage at their leisure. The REAL problem, my friends, is buried so deep in human nature and superstition and fear that we are not likely to ever solve it. What, me? cynical?...nawwwwwwww... |
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18 Dec 04 - 06:29 PM (#1360761) Subject: RE: BS: Land Of The Free From: Little Hawk Just because people will fight for what they see as their own civil liberties does not mean they will stand up for somebody else's civil liberties if that someone else happens to be black, Muslim, leftist, Injun, long-haired, gay, etc... "Not on your nelly!" as Frank Burns used to say. Nope. "Civil liberties is only fer them whut thinks jest like I do! Meanin'...the RIGHT way!" |
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18 Dec 04 - 07:11 PM (#1360787) Subject: RE: BS: Land Of The Free From: Rapparee Dear God. Not again. When will they ever learn, oh, when will they ever learn? |
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18 Dec 04 - 07:41 PM (#1360802) Subject: RE: BS: Land Of The Free From: number 6 It was in USA Today also. This is scarry .... no, they will never learn |
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19 Dec 04 - 06:16 AM (#1361008) Subject: RE: BS: Land Of The Free From: GUEST,kendall America is no longer the land of the free, but it sure is the home of the brave. |