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23 Dec 04 - 06:49 AM (#1363938) Subject: Unusual bagpipes depicted From: pavane Walking around Oxford yesterday, I noticed a (carved stone!) gargoyle playing an unusual set of bagpipes. The pipes apparently have a chanter which is slung over the left shoulder, where I would expect a drone, and therefore seemed to be fingered 'upside down'. It also has three drones under the left arm. Does anyone know if this is an accurate representation of a type of bagpipe, or just a stonemason/carver's impression? |
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23 Dec 04 - 08:25 AM (#1364006) Subject: RE: Unusual bagpipes depicted From: GUEST Why not take and post a digital piccie? |
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23 Dec 04 - 09:06 AM (#1364025) Subject: RE: Unusual bagpipes depicted From: Wilfried Schaum If it's a gargoyle, maybe the stonecutter turned the world upside down? In a position as you describe them the bagpipes seem to be unplayable. |
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23 Dec 04 - 09:58 AM (#1364065) Subject: RE: Unusual bagpipes depicted From: pavane Don't have the facility for a digital pic at the moment, and would need a zoom, as it is high up on a wall. It doesn't look impossible, the chanter comes out at the bottom of the bag, and is directed upwards. The piper's arms are across his chest. |
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23 Dec 04 - 10:38 AM (#1364107) Subject: RE: Unusual bagpipes depicted From: GUEST,Ed Was it anything like this woodcut? |
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23 Dec 04 - 12:40 PM (#1364220) Subject: RE: Unusual bagpipes depicted From: pavane No, not at all. The chanter is pointing UPWARDS, and over the left shoulder, not downwards. That's what is so puzzling. |
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23 Dec 04 - 01:31 PM (#1364278) Subject: RE: Unusual bagpipes depicted From: Dave the Gnome Errr, Isn't the chanter pointing upwards on the woodcut? Over the left shoulder, with the drones under the right arm? Or am I altogether mad? :D |
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23 Dec 04 - 01:36 PM (#1364281) Subject: RE: Unusual bagpipes depicted From: Little Robyn The chanter in that picture is over his left shoulder and not playable. He seems to be fingering a drone! I reckon that was drawn by someone who had no idea how bagpipes work! Now, if you were a medieval stone cutter, would you want to have a model standing blowing in your ear while you worked? I think it must have been done from memory - and not accurate at all! Robyn |
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23 Dec 04 - 05:44 PM (#1364446) Subject: RE: Unusual bagpipes depicted From: breezy my mate Graham plays a bagpipe!- with one drone, a pupil of his made it at college 20 years ago and its brilliant. he will be mumming on Sunday in St Albans |
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23 Dec 04 - 07:30 PM (#1364522) Subject: RE: Unusual bagpipes depicted From: ThreeSheds Have a look at this link for more bagpipes http://annandave.org/Beverley%20Minister.htm |
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29 Dec 04 - 01:13 PM (#1366834) Subject: RE: Unusual bagpipes depicted From: pavane No, I can't see a similar one there |
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30 Dec 04 - 03:55 AM (#1367428) Subject: RE: Unusual bagpipes depicted From: treewind You could try emailing Julian Goodacre - he's been making all kinds of English pipes based on carvings like this and old pictures. However as Robyn suggests, some of those images owe more to artistic licence (or bad memory) than to knowledge or understanding of how pipes work. Anahata |
