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Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus

30 Dec 04 - 12:05 PM (#1367668)
Subject: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: Clinton Hammond

Dated 29/12/2004 5:06 AM
Subject: Hi

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Viruses found in the attached files.
The file release.zip: Virus identified I-Worm/Netsky.B. The attachment was moved to the virus vault.

Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.6 - Release Date: 28/12/2004

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Please clean up your act


30 Dec 04 - 12:08 PM (#1367672)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: MudGuard

So what?

You do not really think that Jeff sent that mail?

It is no problem to send an email with whatever you want as a (fake) sender.


30 Dec 04 - 09:28 PM (#1367674)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: GUEST,.gargoyle

Sick - ignorant - kittens.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


30 Dec 04 - 10:21 PM (#1367695)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: Clinton Hammond

I think it's as likely as not...


30 Dec 04 - 10:32 PM (#1367707)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: Jeri

Clinton, you have this annoying tendency to get pissed off about things you don't have a clue about and shoot your mouth off. It's getting pretty old. You don't care if you do anything that will help - you just want to hurt someone, anyone else.

Worms use addresses in the infected person's address book to stick in the 'From' field and possibly in the 'Reply To' field. Please discover a clue or STFU.


30 Dec 04 - 10:41 PM (#1367713)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: Clinton Hammond

I know how worms work... and it's just as likely that it came from Jeff as anywhere else...

So, you 'STFU', dolt

I posted this, on the off chance that Jeff is infected and doesn't KNOW it... Take your hurt little feelings that someone would DARE criticise ANYTHING you hold dear, and cram them up your back-side, if you can find room with your HEAD being up there


30 Dec 04 - 11:00 PM (#1367739)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: Stilly River Sage

Most often virus or worm-laden mail sent with a "sender" address listed is spoofing the sender. All you can presume from that message is that the computer that contains your email address also contains Pene Azul's address. There are a lot of computers that probably fit that description. Tsk tsking at Jeff is probably hitting an innocent party.

SRS


30 Dec 04 - 11:08 PM (#1367743)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: GUEST,Songster Bob

The fact that the message was blank and the subject "Hi" indicates that this was a worm-driven email from some unknown person's PC that contained both Jeff's and Clinton's email addresses. If Jeff had sent it, HE'D HAVE SAID SOMETHING IN THE MESSAGE, TWIT!

Sorry for shouting, but Clinton seems to have a cranial-rectal juxtaposition problem.

Bob


30 Dec 04 - 11:20 PM (#1367751)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: Jeri

Bob, some people go down to the local bar and comment on big, hairy, tattooed guys' mothers. Clinton has a go at people on Mudcat. Probably saves him a fortune in dentist bills.

Jeff knows a bit more about viruses and worms than average folks, and if the address is always spoofed, the person the e-mail appears to be from is just about guaranteed NOT to be the one it's from.

From Symantec's site:
The email has the following characteristics:

From: (Spoofed)


Note: This email address could be one of the addresses retrieved by the worm, as indicated in step 8.


31 Dec 04 - 06:52 AM (#1367946)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: GUEST

This began this way:

Clinton: Please clean up your act
Mudcats: blah blah
Clinton: I think it's as likely as not...

Jeri: Clinton, you have this annoying tendency to get pissed off about things you don't have a clue about and shoot your mouth off. It's getting pretty old. You don't care if you do anything that will help - you just want to hurt someone, anyone else. Please discover a clue or STFU

Clinton :I know how worms work... and it's just as likely that it came from Jeff as anywhere else...
So, you 'STFU', dolt
I posted this, on the off chance that Jeff is infected and doesn't KNOW it... Take your hurt little feelings that someone would DARE criticise ANYTHING you hold dear, and cram them up your back-side, if you can find room with your HEAD being up there


So who exactly stirred this up????? Clinton said please with his request. Jeri is the one who came in and started throwing insults around. Thus, escalating Clinton into defending himself. Jeri is the instigator and the individual who shot off her mouth, saying insulting things. But she believes she is always right.


31 Dec 04 - 06:55 AM (#1367949)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: wysiwyg

The thread title is pretty inflammatory, but I believe unintentionally so. A tactful title change might be:

"Jeff@Mudcat.org" emails Virus??

Perhaps CAH might consider requesting same via Help Forum?

~Susan


31 Dec 04 - 07:06 AM (#1367954)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: MudGuard

I know how worms work... and it's just as likely that it came from Jeff as anywhere else...

The part after the first "..." proves that the part before the first "..." is not true.


31 Dec 04 - 11:41 AM (#1368177)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: Bill D

Let's see how Clinton reacts when someone claims that HE sent a virus, based on a spoofed address. Jeff is about the most unlikely person I know to ALLOW a virus to be sent using his addy. It is as Songster Bob says.....


31 Dec 04 - 12:08 PM (#1368213)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: Clinton Hammond

Let's see... I'd take that as an indication that I should maybe check my PC, just in case it wasn't a spoofed addy... Better safe than sorry...

I certainly wouldn't take it personally, like so many sucky-babies here seem to want to...


31 Dec 04 - 12:32 PM (#1368245)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: GUEST,Frug

Hey come on guys...........keep on like this and some one will write a soap opera about it. Can't you just hear the intro?

Did Jeff intentionally infect Clinton or did Clinton already have worms ? Will Clintons hard drive eventually turn floppy ? Will Jeff ever be able to rid himself of this slur. Anyway who is guest and why is Gargoyle, what is a WYSIWYG and a MudGuard. Ultimately who gives a FRUG


31 Dec 04 - 02:02 PM (#1368322)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: Jeri

Let's see...if I really wanted to let someone know they might be infected with something, I'd tell them privately. You probably don't know what Jeff's e-mail address is though, so you had to have a public cow, saying 'please clean up your act', which doesn't actually suggest he ought to check, but assumes he IS infected. Then you back-peddle and try to claim "I posted this, on the off chance that Jeff is infected and doesn't KNOW it," which is a load. If you posted it for any reason other than to piss people off, I can't see the reasoning.

In my case, it worked, because of the 'last straw' syndrome. I shall go back to just thinking these things instead of sharing them with everyone. Sometimes, 'STFU' is the best possible advice for more than one person.

Bill, since the virus plugs in 'From' addresses from the same collected addresses it puts in the 'To' field, there's a very good chance Clinton's sending it to folks. I hope those people ask him privately instead of automatically assuming he really did it and accusing him in a public place. No, not really.

Frug, I think the soap opera idea is a great one. The only problem you'll run into is when somebody gets offended by your refusal to take the ridiculous stuff seriously, stomps their e-foot and informs you, "That is NOT FUNNY!" Then again, it would fit in just fine.


31 Dec 04 - 02:49 PM (#1368359)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: Clinton Hammond

"I'd tell them privately"

And I give a fuck how you'd do things why?

Oh... that's right... I don't...

Give yer stupid head a shake


31 Dec 04 - 04:17 PM (#1368424)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: CarolC

I can think of at least a handful of people who would send you an e-mail with no content and a virus attached on purpose, Clinton, but Jeff ain't one of them.


31 Dec 04 - 04:21 PM (#1368426)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: Peace

Out with the old and in with the new.


31 Dec 04 - 04:22 PM (#1368427)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: GUEST

Hammond, if you were half as decent a guy as Jeff is, you might almost be welcome here.


31 Dec 04 - 08:11 PM (#1368558)
Subject: RE: Tech: Jeff@Mudcat.org emails Virus
From: GUEST,.gargoyle

I was called on this week to "fix" a PC after it was upgraded to XP.

Clinton - WELL DONE!!! You had your shields-up and were aware to the situation before it could cause any damages. You also gave alert - to be alert. The holidays provide a prime target zone for neferious deeds.

Clinton your situation is another WARNING!!! Thank you for posting.

The "fix" referred to above - required restoring "lost" programs that had been backed-up. The "backup" unleased the dormant SASSER-B (worm) the owner became beligerant .... screaming that there had never been a worm before. An over-the-net ... anti-viral ... cost 10% of my services.

No matter, if it is ... sex, security, or the internet. Always BE SAFE and have fun, sing songs, and see that no-one is hurt.

Sincerely, (Clinton ... you did good)

Gargoyle