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11 Jan 05 - 10:03 AM (#1376541) Subject: Wild Rover From: GUEST Do folkies still sing this song as i like to hear it now and then. |
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11 Jan 05 - 10:15 AM (#1376546) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: GUEST Yes. And so? Dave Oesterreich |
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11 Jan 05 - 10:16 AM (#1376548) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: MMario depends on the venue - there are places and groups that would not care to hear it - and other places and groups where it is almost demanded. |
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11 Jan 05 - 10:25 AM (#1376554) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: GUEST I have been to places where its not allowed.Thats why i asked with this thread. |
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11 Jan 05 - 11:43 AM (#1376610) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: Scooby Doo Your right guest in the Anchor in the MBS at Sidmouth you get a heavy fine for singing The Wild Rover |
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11 Jan 05 - 11:57 AM (#1376625) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: Big Al Whittle Places where the Wild Rover is not allowed......the mind boggles. I seem to remember Ron Kavana doing someting pretty useful with it last time I saw him. |
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11 Jan 05 - 12:25 PM (#1376659) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: Big Mick Everytime I create a setlist that doesn't include this song, I get so many requests that I have to sing it. Like other singers in the manner of the Irish, I am sick to death of singing it. But folks love the damn thing. I have never been banned from singing it, but I would never sing it in a singaround, unless forced to. Mick |
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11 Jan 05 - 12:32 PM (#1376671) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: Scooby Doo Happy belated Birthday Mick. SCOOBY |
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11 Jan 05 - 12:46 PM (#1376687) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: Big Mick Thanks, Scooby. |
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11 Jan 05 - 12:49 PM (#1376692) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: Schantieman It was done to death in the 60s & 70s, together with Ralph McTell's Streets of London and most aficionados (aficionadoes aficionadi?) wouldn't do it in a club these days. Every so often a tyro does it and we all join in though. Clive (who runs the Bothy) does it to at least two different tunes now and then. Quite good fun trying to sing one to the tune of the other. I've heard Mr Happy sing Ken Dodd's Happiness to the tune of Hughie Jones's Ellen Vannin too - that's quite a laugh! Steve |
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11 Jan 05 - 12:51 PM (#1376693) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: s6k I heard one of the best versions ever by Mudcats very own Muppet. It was a reggae version. that is amazing |
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11 Jan 05 - 12:59 PM (#1376704) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: Joe Offer I didn't know this song until about five years ago, when I learned it from my late friend Jim, an Englishman who was married to the woman who is now my life. Jim and I would sing it together raucously about once every two months, somewhat to the chagrin of some of the members of our woman-dominated song circle. I still sing it in his memory every once in a while, and I still love singing it. I can understand how some people think it's tired and worn, and a waste of time when once could be singing a thirty-seven verse ballad - but I think it's a fun song, and I wish I could feel free to sing it once in a while amongst the snooty purists. Don't think I'd want to sing it five times a month, but once every couple of months doesn't seem too often to sing (or hear) a song. -Joe Offer- |
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11 Jan 05 - 01:00 PM (#1376705) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: PoppaGator Some songs become so popular that they get "done to death," and sooner or later the general public tires of them. Or, at least, the *performers* who are expected to play/sing these songs lose their taste for them and come to dread the inevitable requests. "Wild Rover" is a good example, "Kumbaya" is another, and -- here in New Orleans, in the traditional-jazz category -- you have "When the Saints Come Marching In." There's a faded old sign posted on the wall at Preservation Hall: Requests: $5 Traditional Requests: $1 "The Saints": $10 The sign dates back at least to the late 1960s, when 10 bucks was a *lot* more money than it is today. |
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11 Jan 05 - 01:06 PM (#1376715) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: Big Mick Joe, I don't think the song is tired at all. I am just tired of singing it. I think it stems from my need to constantly introduce the crowd to other songs. There are only so many minutes in a performance, and when one is trying to introduce a certain song, or maintain a certain theme, it is a pain to have to sacrifice other songs to one that has been done to death. BUT .... and this is a very big BUT .... the crowd is in charge. I am there to entertain them, and if the request is from a number of folks, I feel obligated to give 'em what they want. I may have to sing it 15 times a month, but I am mindful that the audience members haven't heard it that many times. To them, the night isn't complete without it. It is a fun song. One just tires of it, as anyone would of any song that got sung as much as this one. Mick |
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11 Jan 05 - 01:13 PM (#1376721) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: Cats And you can always sing it to different tunes.... ride of the valkeries, try the savoy operas, away in a manger, or even Sweet Chiming Christmas Bells... I could go on all night, there again we did one year at the Swan in Sidmouth. Seriously though, There is a beatuiful Irish ballad version that's worth looking out. |
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11 Jan 05 - 03:45 PM (#1376882) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: McGrath of Harlow An Irish version of Wild Roiver? That'd make a change from the normal Norfolk version. How does it go, Cats? |
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11 Jan 05 - 03:52 PM (#1376885) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: GUEST,Martin Ryan MG of H: There's always "The Drogheda Wild ROver", - as collected from Mrs. Carolan, if I remember aright! Regards |
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11 Jan 05 - 04:03 PM (#1376905) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: GUEST If memory serves, Tommy Makem got the trad Irish version from his mother Sarah. Sean Cannon recorded a trad version on an early solo album in the 70's. Even if you listen to Luke Kelly's version in the 60's it still retained a trad sound, being sung as if in regret. It was only when the "clappy Handy" bits were added that it started to go downhill. I even remember Mike Whelans doing a blues version of it in Aberdeen in the early 70's...brought the house down...with laughter! |
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11 Jan 05 - 05:10 PM (#1376969) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: Joe Offer Hey, Kevin, in the U.S., "Wild Rover" is an Irish song. Americans don't know from Norfolk. They think it's in Ireland, or maybe Virginia. -Joe Offer- |
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11 Jan 05 - 05:43 PM (#1376995) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: radriano The Drogheda Wild Rover, mentioned by Martin Ryan above, is the same lyrics to a much more beautiful melody that suits the song better than the usual raucous melody. |
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11 Jan 05 - 05:58 PM (#1377014) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: Big Mick I have just searched Mudcat, and googled it, but I don't find the words or tune for "Drogheda Wild Rover". I see it referenced in several places but nothing more. Can anyone share it with us? All the best, Mick |
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11 Jan 05 - 06:58 PM (#1377054) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: curmudgeon I first heard, and subsequently learned, the Wild Rover in about 1962 from a recording by John Runge. It was a simple narrative song with no enthusiastic affronts. About twenty years ago, when I first met Lou Killen, he sang a very close variant and prefaced his presentation with a comment that he wished he'd never taught to "some friends." A similar text is in "The Singing Island," MacColl-Seeger . I rarely perform this song as the average audience will try to give it the clap -- Tom |
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11 Jan 05 - 07:14 PM (#1377062) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: breezy its a great song to perform anywhere, be fearless. Its entertainment as well. Put your own stamp on it. I beena wild most all of me life |
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11 Jan 05 - 07:16 PM (#1377064) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: breezy I been a wild ROVER most all of me life etc yes I did shout, sorry no offence intended |
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11 Jan 05 - 10:26 PM (#1377190) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: Kaleea Depends on what you mean by "folkie." I have attended many ceolis & sessions & "get togethers" where it is often sung &/or requested. |
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12 Jan 05 - 01:34 AM (#1377244) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: Joe Offer Hey, Birthday Boy Mick - see comments from Martin Ryan and Antaine in this thread. Martin says the lyrics posted are very similar to what the Press Gang recorded under the title "Drogheda Wild Rover." I think we have an alternate tune posted somewhere, but I didn't find it. -Joe Offer- |
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12 Jan 05 - 08:50 AM (#1377326) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: GUEST,Wolfgang I have a recollection of the Johnstons singing live and a capella a version with a different tune. Wolfgang |
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12 Jan 05 - 09:07 AM (#1377335) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: GUEST OK - DSo 'The Wild Rover' is considered old and hackneyed by a lot of Folk (define Folk how you will) but it IS one of the songs that will get an enthusiastic response in a 'General' entertainment environment And the same goes for 'Streets of London' by the way . |
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12 Jan 05 - 09:23 AM (#1377343) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: GUEST,Snuffy Words here and Alison posted the tune later in the same thread |
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12 Jan 05 - 11:48 AM (#1377379) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: muppett Hey S6k, I also do a Kyle Minouge version of it as well, the words fit well to the tune of I can't get you out my head (I think that's what its called), you know the one that's got the chorus, No,no,no, |
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12 Jan 05 - 05:14 PM (#1377696) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: EagleWing I sang it the other day at my local folk club. It was the first time I'd sung it for about 30 years so it came as reasonably fresh to me. Frank L. |
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12 Jan 05 - 05:29 PM (#1377705) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: GUEST,Lighter at work Just so our record of this song's history is complete: a good friend of mine attended Cork U. for a year in 1979-80, and when he came back reported that the chorus even then had been fitted out with rhythmic claps, often accompanied or replaced by the phrase "Right up your a***!" The voice of the folk. |
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12 Jan 05 - 07:36 PM (#1377743) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: Snuffy Or Kilt in places where you didn't dare say Arse |
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12 Jan 05 - 07:57 PM (#1377767) Subject: RE: Wild Rover From: Bob Bolton G'day GUEST ... and everybody else, A song I like as an alternative is one learned from Sally Sloane, who was a great traditional singer, here in Australia. I've posted it here at: I've Been a Wild Boy. Sally's traditional tune (as I note in the original post) was one that seems to have been popular in British folk clubs as a gentle reminder for all to go home, at the end of the night, as Here's a Health to the Company. (In fact ... you could sing the Wild Rover verses to that tune ... and have no chorus ... of course, that might get you lynched in some chorus-obsessed clubs! |
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15 Jan 05 - 03:14 PM (#1379549) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: McGrath of Harlow Here's an alternative to it the other day I made up in a thread about Minor characters deserving own song" when Don(Wyziwyg)T suggested the landlady might deserve to have her version of what transpired. So I thought I'd post it here, as more likely to come up, if anyone is ever looking for a song like this. In which case they are more than welcome to sing it. (Say where you got it from though, if anyone is interested.) The Wild Rover's Landlady I was stood at the bar when this pillock came in, And he asked for a drink without showing no tin. So I told him "Look chummy, this isn't a bank, If you want something free, just you go have a wash." And there's no tick, never, these words I repeat, If you ask me for credit, you'll be out in the street. Well he dips in his pockets, this ignorant sod, And he says "Loads-a-money" and he flashes a wad. So I tells him quite politely, "If you've money to spare, You are welcome to drink till you falls off your chair But there's no tick, never, these words I repeat, If you ask me for credit, you'll be out in the street." Well he drinks and he drinks, till he can't drink no more, Then he staggers around and he crawls out the door, Going home to his Mummy, to beg for a sub - There's some right bleeding nutters I serve in this pub. And there's no tick never, these words I repeat, If you ask me for credit, you'll be out in the street. With three options for the chorus, according to taste - the one I gave there, or Oh there's no tick never, in the Rover's Return, But you can drink like a fish if you've money to burn.. (The point being, that gets the Rover into the song - "The Rover's Return" incidentally being the name of a pub in the English soap opera, "Coronation Street".) Or No, No Never, Never no more - I never give nobody credit no more. Which has the advantage of being closer to the standard version, and therefore it might make it more acceptable as a substitute in response to a request for the Wild Rover. I intentionally put it in an English pub, in deference to the song's origins...(It'd take about thirty seconds for anyone to emigrate it to any other required nationality). |
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15 Jan 05 - 03:46 PM (#1379584) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Clinton Hammond I'll play Wild Rover when it's requested... and occasionally, when I've got up my head of steam and am stringing a few songs together, it'll worm its way in toward the end of 3 or 6 songs... The best way to sing Wild Rover in my book, is to the tune of Ghost Riders In The Sky.... But you can sing a LOT of the old cheese-ball songs to that tune... :-) |
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15 Jan 05 - 07:22 PM (#1379685) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: The Fooles Troupe ... including "Waltzing Matilda"... :-) (but don't ever call it "an old cheese-ball song" in public in Aust if you want to keep your front teeth!) |
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15 Jan 05 - 07:23 PM (#1379686) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Clinton Hammond One mans cheese is another mans beef... :-) |
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15 Jan 05 - 11:19 PM (#1379773) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Shanghaiceltic Regularly asked for at both the Blarney and o'Malley's in Shanghai. |
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16 Jan 05 - 03:20 PM (#1380026) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Pauline L Mick, I don't believe that *any* song would sound tired after being sung too often. One of my personal definitions of great art is something that you can return to time after time, and it's always fresh. I wouldn't consider Wild Rover great art by this definition, but some songs would qualify. |
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17 Jan 05 - 12:02 AM (#1380282) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: michaelr No Nay Never -- will I play, or sing, or accompany, or have anything to do with this piece of shite song. Or, for that matter, When Irish Eyes, I'll Take You Home Again, or any other of those Oirish evergreens. Even Danny Boy meets with my utmost reluctance. Why? Well, I guess I have a highly developed "corny" (or call it bullshit) sensor, and that kind of crap just doesn't get past it. Although I perform in public, I strongly believe that I should not sing any song I can't perform with conviction. If it's crap to me, I'd be deceiving my audience by pretending to perform it. Cheers, Michael |
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17 Jan 05 - 04:04 AM (#1380350) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: s6k so its your favourite song then ? |
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17 Jan 05 - 02:04 PM (#1380747) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Les in Chorlton The crapness is experienced by the listener or not as the case maybe. Sing what you like. I've sung the Wild Rover for many's the year I've sung it so often I'm sick up to here But now I have taken vows 20 and 4 I never will sing the Wild Rover no more No not much. |
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18 Jan 05 - 11:44 AM (#1381358) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Grab Clinton, I'm afraid I tainted the folk music pools of Windsor by doing "Wild Rover" to the tune of the Banana Boat Song at a song circle ddw took me to. Beware of that one at the Kildare House... :-) Graham. |
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18 Jan 05 - 03:23 PM (#1381566) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Clinton Hammond I have head that one before, but not 'attached' to you mate... so yer in the clear I'd imagine... "Now I've been a folk-singer for many a year *hic* Can ya... *hic* sshhhling The Wild Rover?", is all that I hear So I think I'll retire and live on the dole Where I won't have to sing The Wild Rover NO MORE!" Is the verse I use at the end... it almost always get a really good laugh from the crowd... |
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18 Jan 05 - 03:28 PM (#1381576) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Pistachio Last time I heard the tune the words had been re-written about a tired 'Rover' motor car( .....as I recall) And it's no, nay, never no, nay, never, no more will I buy and old rover, no never, no more! >>>> ----<<<< It's ages since I sang the song with the 'clappy' bit but whatever, it does always 'seem' to go down well, albeit infrequently. PS I too have heard the magic Muppet 'reggae' version.'Whitby forever' |
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19 Jan 05 - 08:15 AM (#1382192) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: VIN Yes it's bin done a lot over the years but i still like the song. Alex Campbell used to do a grand version, yay oh yay! |
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19 Jan 05 - 09:04 AM (#1382227) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: GUEST,Davy I drove a landrover for many a year, and I haven't worked out how to get it in gear...... |
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19 Jan 05 - 11:19 AM (#1382336) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: GUEST,davy Sing it well and folk enjoy it.....so I'm told! |
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28 Jan 05 - 08:40 AM (#1391164) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: GUEST,Tommy T - Denmark Even in Denmark is it still a popular song, both in english and in Danish. The Danish words if anybody wants it: Jeg har været på valsen, men nu er det slut med at bruge hver øre på damer og sprut. Så nu vender jeg hjemad med masser af mønt, for det´ sket med det liv og en andet begyndt. Så´ det slut med at ture - åh - åh -åh med at ture min ven, nu ta'r jeg aldrig mere på valsen igen. Jeg gik ind på det værtshus, hvor jeg plejed´ at komme, og sagde til tjeneren: "Min lomme er tom". Jeg bad om kredit, men han svarede nej, der er snese af kunder, der´ bedre end dig. Så´ det slut med at ture - åh - åh -åh med at ture min ven, nu ta'r jeg aldrig mere på valsen igen. Jeg stak hånden i lommen, hev frem alt mit guld, men se baren, jeg stod ved, var bugnende fuld. "Du kan få alt på klods - både i pose og sæk". "Du ka´ rende mig der, hvor min ryg, den blir fræk". Så´ det slut med at ture - åh - åh -åh med at ture min ven, nu ta'r jeg aldrig mere på valsen igen. Jeg tar hjem til de gamle, jeg be´r dem en bøn, om at modta´ og tilgi´ deres vildfarne søn. Og hvis de vil tilgi´, jeg tror nok de vil, tar jeg bare på valsen en en´ste gang til. Nu' det slut med at ture - åh - åh - åh, med at ture min ven, nu ta'r jeg aldrig mere på valsen igen. |
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28 Jan 05 - 11:20 AM (#1391323) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: GUEST,Davy It loses in the translation just a tad. |
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28 Jan 05 - 06:14 PM (#1391756) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: davidkiddnet Billy Connelly was recorded saying that he went into a club and saw "Three wooly jumpers singing the Wild Rover". This indicates that you have to wear a wooly jumper to sing it properly. I see those thick natural white ones from the Western Isles with spirally motifs up the front. It's impossible to sing that deep philosphical song without one - I mean three. |
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29 Jan 05 - 06:44 PM (#1392685) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: GUEST,Chanteyranger It's a popular pub song for good reason. It's very tuneful, rollicking, and fun to sing along with, hand-clapping section and all. Yes, hackneyed to many performers and to discerning music enthusiasts. If it's requested, singing it is like giving a gift to the people who request it. Chanteyranger |
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30 Jan 05 - 04:48 AM (#1393001) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Les in Chorlton Like all great music it has a life of its own. I'll go to St Peter confess what I've done And hope that he'll pardon this song stealing bum If he'll forgive me and open his door I never will slay the Wild Rover no more |
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30 Jan 05 - 06:09 AM (#1393029) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T There must be something very special about a song that has been performed so often that almost everyone seems to hate it, and yet can still hold the attention of so many people in a serious music discussion forum. I wish I was likely ever to write one like it. I always sing it, if asked, but then the only requests I ever refuse, or ignore, are the ones which end with the word "off". Don T. |
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30 Jan 05 - 06:56 AM (#1393062) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Davidkiddnet, Yeah, those cable knit Arran sweaters are probably the most practical clothing ever invented for a fishing/farming community, whose winters are white and six feet deep, and summers are mostly wet, and very windy. Due to the very high lanolin content of the local wool, they are quite windproof, and almost completely waterproof as well. They became very popular in the fifties and sixties, and very much associated with traditional folk music, probably because the singers in that part of the world are regarded as a well loved national asset. Wish that were so further south, where the sweater has become part of the misconception of folkies, in the community at large ( as witness Mr. Connelly's remark). Don T. |
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30 Jan 05 - 07:25 AM (#1393077) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: stallion Its the only song my brother sings and if, when we are in his car, he starts singing it it makes me cringe, i have to join in to drown out his awful voice. Yes often requested and if it is what the paying public want then perhaps you have to give them it but o lord it is a labour. Damien at our regular haunt does a rap version which is good. |
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30 Jan 05 - 09:15 AM (#1393153) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T My friend and musical partner in the duo "Sic Transit", has solved the Wild Rover problem in his own unique fashion. A particularly fine keyboard player, and a gifted mimic, he will serve up a version to fit any occasion. He has written about a hundred parodies, all following the original story, in the exact style of just about any singer from Carthy to Cash, and Louis "Satchmo" Armstrong to Cliff Richard (spit). These came about as a result of a challenge to produce one per week for three months, and resulted in 3 - 4 per week until the challenger surrendered 9 months later, and begged him to stop. A medley of these forms a popular part of our act at folk clubs. Don T. |
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30 Jan 05 - 10:09 AM (#1393194) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: woodsie Wild Rover - a truly great folk song. It has it all. But tis a cryan' shame that the good Captain Beefheart says never received a penny in royalties. Is there no justice? |
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30 Jan 05 - 02:04 PM (#1393408) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Peter Kasin Don T, that's hilarious. I'd love to hear a version sung in the style of Gov Schwarzenegger. Chanteyranger |
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30 Jan 05 - 02:23 PM (#1393434) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Chanteyranger, I'll suggest that one, and see what results. If any of you guys are going to Sidmouth this year, you'll find us both in the front bar of the Bedford, and you can hear for yourselves. I'll be the one with "Wysiwyg" printed acroos the scratch plate of his guitar. Hope to see you there. Maybe you might even stretch a point and invite us to do a spot for you in the middle bar one day. Relax! I'm only joking. Don T. |
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30 Jan 05 - 03:40 PM (#1393511) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Strollin' Johnny Those 'thick cable-knit Arran sweaters' are actually Aran sweaters - one 'r' only - and are nothing whatsoever to do with the Western Isles, they originate from the Irish island of Aran, not the Scottish island of Arran. That's what I've read but I expect that, as usual, some smart-arse will tell me I'm wrong! LOL! S:0) |
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30 Jan 05 - 09:53 PM (#1393849) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Peter Kasin I've been to Aran Island, taking a Ferry over from Clare, and have seen people seling their home-knitted Aran sweaters. You've got that right, Strollin' Johnny. Chanteyranger |
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30 Jan 05 - 10:36 PM (#1393868) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: GUEST,Folkiefrank Strollin' Johnny ,you called it right, and if anyone remembers that far back, thwy were the stage uniform of the Clancy Brothers, even at their re-union concert circa 1990(?) !! |
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31 Jan 05 - 06:12 AM (#1394073) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Strollin' Johnny Thanks guys, my heart's bursting with pride! Got something right at last! (LOL!) S:0) |
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31 Jan 05 - 05:28 PM (#1394798) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Peterr It's one of the songs you can use to get a pub audience's attention back after you've sung two or three of the ones YOU want to sing. I really like the tune the Dransfields used - similar to the usual but slower and with the odd flattened note - minor key or modal or something I don't understand. Must ask the musical theory brains of the household. |
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20 Mar 08 - 01:46 PM (#2293770) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Kim C Okay, so I'm 3 years late on this, but maybe I'll get extra points for using the search and not starting a new thread. ;-) Anyhow, Mister and I do this song a lot, as apparently it's hugely popular with reenactors. We have the Holding Up the Other Half of the Sky (or whatever it's called) CD, which uses a melody similar to "Her Mantle So Green." So we got to wondering. . . which melody for this song is older? |
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20 Mar 08 - 02:36 PM (#2293815) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: RTim It depends what version you mean? I have started singing a version collected in my home county of Hampshire in England, which has a very different tune to that of the more commonly known song, and I believe that this is also being sung by fellow Mudcatter - Brian Peters, and by Paul Sartin; in fact Paul has recorded it with a choir on the re-issue of Folk Songs from Hampshire on Forest Tracks Records. http://www.forest-tracks.co.uk/folk_music_pages/folk_music_folksongs.html Tim Radford |
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20 Mar 08 - 02:53 PM (#2293828) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: GUEST,Jonny Sunshine I'm not proud, I'll sing the Wild Rover if I'm being paid handsomely ;-) Actually I wrote a song where I nicked a couple of lines (for ironic effect), not until afterwards did I realise the tune was pretty similar too. I'm sure there's plenty more versions out there that haven't been done to death yet. |
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20 Mar 08 - 03:04 PM (#2293837) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Maryrrf It will very likely be requested in pubs and the audience seems to enjoy it. It's a reliable 'crowd pleaser'. We do it when we play in pubs because we're there to please! |
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20 Mar 08 - 03:24 PM (#2293864) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: michaelr No, nay, never. |
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20 Mar 08 - 03:27 PM (#2293868) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: GUEST,The Mole Catcher's unplugged Apprentice Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? no, nay, never, no more!! damn beaten to the punch *LOL* Charlotte (now I can't get the stupid tune out of my head) |
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20 Mar 08 - 03:36 PM (#2293877) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: skarpi jabb we still do , in Icelandic , sounds a little diffrent |
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20 Mar 08 - 03:51 PM (#2293891) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Jim Carroll Missed this one first time round. For me the song was kicked to death by The Clancy's and all the other singing pullovers, until I came across the one from Pat McCardle, Mary Anne Carolan's brother - beautiful reflective version, far more in keeping withthe sense of the song: Wild roving I'll give over, wild roving no meor. And I ne'er will be called the wild rover no more. Jim Carroll |
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20 Mar 08 - 03:53 PM (#2293895) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: JedMarum There are certain songs that generation after generation keeps asking for. Wild Rover is one of them. I play it every time it's requested (within reason) - only in the Pubs, though. |
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20 Mar 08 - 04:00 PM (#2293902) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Big Al Whittle I still sing it to myself in the breaking hours of dawn, when one is alone with ones innermost feelings. The words of of this young man so far from home and his loved ones never fails move me deeply. Over the yaers I have changed the words slightly. |
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20 Mar 08 - 05:07 PM (#2293965) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: RTim The Alternative version text: WILD ROVER. I've been a wild rover for many a long year IÕve spent all my money boys in fine girls and strong beer, So for my part I will lay up my money in store And ItÕs never will I play the wild rover no more. Chorus Wild Rover, Wild Rover, Wild Rover no more, And ItÕs never will I play the Wild Rover no more. I callÕd at some an ale-house I usÕd to resort, The liquor was good, but my money was short: I askÕd them to trust me, but their answer was nay, Such a customer as you, my boy, we can have any day." Then I pulled out my handfuls of money straightway It was only for to try them to hear what theyÕd say, YouÕre welcome kind sir to liquor of the best What I told you before was only in jest." Oh no I replied that never will be, IÕll see you all hanged if I spend one penny; For a man thatÕs got money, he may sing and may roar, But a man thatÕs got none must be turned out of doors. You should see the landlady, at ease in her chair, With her ruffles round her wrist, fine curls in her hair, ItÕs got by our money boys, that you very well know, And for to maintain them - we are fools if we do. ----------------------------------------------- From Henry Lee of Whitchurch - May 1906 (H346) From Frank PurslowÕs Constant Lovers page 109 Verses 3 & 4 based on version via Wiltshire and Alfred Williams. Tim Radford |
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20 Mar 08 - 05:44 PM (#2293998) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego "The Wild Rover" "Finnegan's Wake" "The Moonshiner (any one of 'em)" "Brennan on the Moor" "The Wild Colonial Boy" "Rosin the Beau" Any one or all, along with many others, could be considered overdone, hackneyed or stale - on either side of the great pond. But every one, done with integrity and great vigor, and in the right place and time, is still entertaining and valuable - and fun! |
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20 Mar 08 - 09:15 PM (#2294161) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Big Al Whittle I went into an alehouse I ordered some rum I said to the lanlady - show us your bum Then in walked the Landlord His name it was Giok He said, buy us a Guiness I'll show you me ..... Then in walked the the barmaid,her name was Annie And now And this song I will bring to a closure About all the perils Of indecent exposure |
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20 Mar 08 - 11:31 PM (#2294231) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Seamus Kennedy I find it interesting how a song about temperance has been perverted into a drinking song. Oh well... Seamus |
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21 Mar 08 - 05:41 AM (#2294292) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Big Al Whittle 'I find it interesting how a song about temperance has been perverted into a drinking song.' Pervertted......? as Rod steiger said in No Way to Treat a Lady - it doesn't mean you're not a nice person! |
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21 Mar 08 - 05:46 AM (#2294295) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Mr Red I have been known to sing the "Wild Shrover" on Pancake Day. I'll get my coat................ |
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22 Mar 08 - 04:50 AM (#2295001) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Jim Carroll Guest TJ Agree totally with your sentiments, though I do believe that all too often vigour takes the place of interpretation. Apart from Finnegan's Wake I can think of beautiful versions from source singers, of all the songs you mention. Would add 'Black Velvet Band' and 'Johnny I Hardly Knew You' to the list. Jim Carroll |
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22 Mar 08 - 02:34 PM (#2295297) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Les in Chorlton It's not the songs fault, is it? |
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22 Mar 08 - 03:34 PM (#2295344) Subject: RE: Wild Rover - do folks still sing this song? From: Tim Leaning Hey dunno about it getting sung much but havent stopped humming it since I spotted this thread. At least its not the bloody spice girls this time. |