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11 Jan 05 - 08:41 PM (#1377118) Subject: Tech: MS Word fonts From: michaelr I want to print out a list of fonts installed on my computer because I can never remember what many of them look like, but I can't seem to find a function in Word that will let me do that. Can anyone help? Thanks, Michael |
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11 Jan 05 - 08:57 PM (#1377131) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: Q (Frank Staplin) There are so many. Some are impractical. I clicked on the list and printed out a line in each font that I thought I might use at some time, for greeting cards, etc. The list is buried somewhere- never used it. Printing function for the list? Dunno. |
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11 Jan 05 - 09:13 PM (#1377145) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: Bill D one way...get a program like X-Fonter, on this page which has a feature to print an 'overview' of the fonts. (This version is free)...It will print the list and/or the fonts in their format. |
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11 Jan 05 - 09:45 PM (#1377161) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: Mary in Kentucky Bill, while we're at it -- I need a specific font in order to make a webpage - I want to copy my client's logo. I can't find it. I haven't asked him what it is, probably won't know, and I'm not sure how his signmakers would feel if I asked them. I went to one of your sites (I think) that was a font detective - list the characteristics of the font and it would identify it - but it wasn't there. Any other good sites? Did you post a lot of links once? (I remember that you "used to be" a fontaholic! ;-) |
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11 Jan 05 - 10:34 PM (#1377198) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: GUEST,Russ Create new blank word document Start / Settings / Control Panel / Fonts Tap [Print Scrn] Key Goto word document Edit / Paste Print word document with screenshot |
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12 Jan 05 - 12:03 AM (#1377228) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: JohnInKansas It depends on which version of Word you are using, but in newer versions, in Word you can go to Tools - Customize, and on the Options tab there is a check box you can set to display font choices in their own font. With this box checked, when you click on the Font dropdown list to select a new font, you'll at least see the name of the font in that font. The caveat is that you may not be able to read the name of some of the several "symbol" fonts. This option may not be available if you're using one of the older versions of Word. If you happen to have installed Adobe Type Manager (which is needed to use Adobe Type 1 or Type 2 fonts) you can open Type Manager, and on the "Sets" tab select the fonts you want to print, then File - Print - sample sheet. Type Manager can print all the font types, TrueType, Type1, etc. It does print a separate sheet for each font, so if you select all the fonts you've got, you'll kill a whole forest worth of paper. (Newer versions of Word allow 32,767 fonts per single document, you can have more "installed" if you don't use them all at the same time.) John |
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12 Jan 05 - 12:05 PM (#1377399) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: PoppaGator I recently discovered that my home computer does NOT have a C:\Windows\Fonts folder -- my fonts are scattered among several different font folders assigned to different programs. Any suggestions for sorting this out? Coincidentally, I use nearly-identical PCs at work and at home. Both are Dell Dimension 2400s with the XP "home edition" O/S. Both were purchased in late 2003 and both have dual CD drives (read-only and read/write) and no floppy drives. I bought my own unit with a software bundle, but I'm pretty sure my employer bought my workstation (along with several others) without any software installed except for the O/S. That probably explains why the fonts are installed differently. I prefer the way they're organized on my at-work PC; any suggestions on how to (first) FIND and (then) reorganize ALL my home-PC fonts? |
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12 Jan 05 - 12:29 PM (#1377426) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: Bill D Mary...yes...I used to collect fonts with a passion, and have thousands squirreled away on CDs. I have not kept up with the sites in awhile, as they change a lot.. You can, of course, do a search on types etc.but you might look for weeks comparing them.. the easiest way, if you have a picture of the one you want, is to post it to the newsgroup alt.binaries.fonts, where they have requests for font IDs everyday, and generally do well if it is known at all.....all this assumes YOU have access to binaries newsgroups.....If not, you could send ME a picture, and I could post it and see what happens. |
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12 Jan 05 - 12:36 PM (#1377431) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: Bill D just a note about printing..not everyone has Word, and that Adobe thing gets pretty complicated....but that X-fonter program has an option in its print routine to 'start a new print job ever 5 pages' as well as to select which ones to print and whether to include the name...etc.. pretty neat features. There may be better, but not all programs are free. |
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12 Jan 05 - 01:09 PM (#1377452) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: TheBigPinkLad This is a good place to go to ID typefaces: http://www.identifont.com/ And this is a good source of free typefaces: http://www.1001freefonts.com/fonts/afonts.htm Pedantic perhaps, but font does not equate to typeface. Typeface = Baskerville, Times, Garamond, Arial, etc. Font = 12 point, italic, bold, etc. |
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12 Jan 05 - 01:09 PM (#1377453) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: mack/misophist Be careful! Don't delete a font just because it seems unnecessary. Many are used for required indicators. |
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12 Jan 05 - 01:26 PM (#1377476) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: Mary in Kentucky Thanks Bill, that's on the back burner for a few days, but I may try that. I used X-Fonter last night to print out all the fonts installed on my computer, 225 in all. It took 23 pages, but I think it's very useful for the stuff I want to do. BPL - your first link may be the one I already tried. I'll check out the second one and bookmark it if it's fast and easy to use. *******Note to other fontaholics and graphics players***** You can create nice curves in logos by using some of the Arabic (or is it Persion?) fonts. |
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12 Jan 05 - 01:26 PM (#1377477) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: PoppaGator Mary in Kentucky said: "I need a specific font in order to make a webpage - I want to copy my client's logo." Please note that readers of your web page will not view *text* in the original/desired typeface unless they have the font in question installed on their machine. Your best bet would be to include the client's logo as a .gif or .jpg or other *graphics* file; this will assure that everyone who surfs to the page will see the logo as intended. (Unless there's a way to *embed* a font in a web page, similar to what you can do when creating a PDF.) I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the *only* fonts you can use on a web page with any assurance they will be seen all or most viewers are Ariel/Helvetica, Times [Roman](or Times New Roman), and Courier (or equivalent monospaced "typewriter" font). If any unknown font pops up, the local user's computer automatically uses Ariel for all sans-serif fonts (Helveitica if it's an Apple), Times for all serif fonts, and Courier for all monospaced fonts. Then there are a couple of obscure sans-serifs installed on all Win98-or-later machines, but not necessarily on Macs & older Wintels -- Trebuchet and Verdana. Used on a web page, these fonts will be viewable by *most* surfers, but not all. THEN -- mack/misophist said: "Don't delete a font just because it seems unnecessary. Many are used for required indicators." Are there any such fonts BESIDES the aforementioned Ariel, Times, and Courier? |
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12 Jan 05 - 01:29 PM (#1377479) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: Mary in Kentucky I want to duplicate the logo in a graphics program, make a gif out of it. I've used photos in the past, but that's sometimes difficult. |
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12 Jan 05 - 01:37 PM (#1377487) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: TheBigPinkLad Mary, you said You can create nice curves in logos by using some of the Arabic (or is it Persion?) fonts. I'm looking for a program that will wrap text around the outside of a circle easily -- which do folks consider best for doing that? |
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12 Jan 05 - 01:43 PM (#1377493) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: Bill D PoppaGator...there are a number of fonts that should not be deleted see this site. (A lot depends on the current OS you have, but there is no reason to delete any of these with Win98 or NT or XP...etc... |
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12 Jan 05 - 01:46 PM (#1377498) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: GUEST,Den PoppaGator makes some very valid points. I am a professional Graphic Designer and I have to say that it really curdles my milk when I hear about people trying to reformat someone else's work. Mary if you find out who the original designer of the logo is I'm sure they would have no problem sending you a copy of the logo in jpeg, transparent gif or whatever file format works best for the particular application. You should never try to recreate or reinterprete someone elses art without their permission. Even though your client owns the logo he/she may not own the creative rights. The bottom line is you should never mess with a logo when it is so much easier to work with the original. Logo police, over and out. Den |
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12 Jan 05 - 02:15 PM (#1377518) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: Bill D BPL...I found this analysis of a technique in commercial program...I don't know that I have anything free which will do it...still poking about. |
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12 Jan 05 - 02:33 PM (#1377531) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: TheBigPinkLad Thanks Bill |
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12 Jan 05 - 02:39 PM (#1377536) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: JohnInKansas PoppaGator - Check to make sure that you are viewing hidden and system files. (Win Explorer - Tools - Folder Options - View tab) The Windows\Fonts folder is the default location for fonts used by Windows and by Windows compatible programs. Your folder may just be hidden. (It may also be tagged as a "System Folder" and will probably have the "Read Only" attribute set.) You install a TrueType font for Windows use by pasting it into C:\Windows\Fonts, and you "remove" it by deleting it there (or cut there and paste somewhere else so you can put it back if you want). Some individual programs may contain font files in their own folders, and you should probably leave them alone; but the only "approved" way to make a TrueType font available to all Windows programs is to have it in the C:\Windows\Fonts folder. In WinXP, Win Explorer, you should be able to do a search for filenames including *.ttf to find all the TrueType fonts on your C:\ drive (be sure to include hidden/system and subfolders.) You can Ctl-A to select them all in Search Results, Ctl-C to copy, and then go back to folders view and paste all of them into a "Font_Archive" folder if you'd like to have a single place to look when one gets lost. You may have duplicates, and for "collection" purposes keeping the one with the most recent file date usually works okay. John |
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12 Jan 05 - 02:46 PM (#1377543) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: Mary in Kentucky Thanks Den, that makes sense. I just wondered where this info is because it is used on trucks, buildings, business cards, signs...etc. Once before I had a graphic designer make a logo in tiff format - and it turned out to be unusable (actually it probablyw wasn't her fault, just limited choices, none of which the client liked) - so I'm a little skeptical of working with people I don't know. |
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12 Jan 05 - 02:57 PM (#1377558) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: Mary in Kentucky BPL - I'm not ignoring your question - as you can see, I'm just a player in graphics, certainly not a pro. I use Paint Shop Pro, and it just lets me rotate words. (still in a straight line at various angles) For wrap, I think you can use Microsoft Word (word art) and get some wraps, not sure if it would be the circle you want. |
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12 Jan 05 - 03:09 PM (#1377570) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: PoppaGator Thanks to mack and John for clearing up a couple of things for me. I used to be in the typesetting business before going bankrupt in the late 80s, when the last of our large clients went the "do-it-yourself" route. At the time, we were holding the bag for a *large* investment in previous-generation technology (minicomputer-based front end system, digital phototypesetter, copy camera, photochemical processors, etc.) and I was in no position to buy a micro (Mac at the time, Mac-or-PC later) to continue doing the same work with new tools. I've since worked (briefly) as a Mac/QuarkXPress operator, and (for the last decade) as a tech writer, sometimes using MSWord on the PC to approximate "real" typography. But I've never gotten as solid a handle on the inner workings of microcomputer graphics and page-makeup as had upon several older generations of graphic production technology. |
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12 Jan 05 - 03:50 PM (#1377613) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: TheBigPinkLad Thanks Mary. I've tried both those programs but the results are less than acceptable ... very amateurish. It looks like I'm going to have to lay out big bucks for something. |
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12 Jan 05 - 07:18 PM (#1377736) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Hi TheBigPinkLad I'm looking for a program that will wrap text around the outside of a circle easily I use a couple of programs which will do something like what you're asking. What were you using it for? CD label printing? If so, you might look at Avery's Design Pro. In its label producing capabilities is something called Round Text, which might be what you are aiming for. Another possibility if you have Micro$oft Word. There is a feature within it, called Word Art. It has a variety of shapes to put the text into, including Circle, Button, Circle or Button with Pour. Plus many others. Once you have the desired shape, you can put rotate it as well. See the quickie tutorial in the link above. But unfortunately you seem to have tried the Word Art and it didn't do what you wanted. Could you tell us a bit about what you're trying to do? |
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12 Jan 05 - 07:48 PM (#1377757) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: JohnInKansas While I understand that a lot of folk here would prefer to do without Microsoft entirely, those interested in typefaces and fonts may find some interesting info at Microsoft Typography I note that the front page links to Tools and Utilities, and mentions a "Web Embedding Fonts Tool." I haven't looked at it, but it sounds like something that may be of interest. Microsoft almost insists that you use TrueType and/or OpenType fonts in Windows. (There's help at the link for the minor differences between those two.) Those of us stuck with printshops that insist on it still have to get Adobe Type Manager to use Type 1, but the trend is for even the most recalictrant printers to be more willing to use TrueType. It's still good practice to ask before doing a layout, if you deal with someone who may have a large investment in one kind or t'other. John |
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12 Jan 05 - 07:53 PM (#1377760) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: michaelr Whoa there -- MAJOR thread creep! :-) Bill D -- thanks a lot, X-Fonter is just the ticket. Ya'd think there'd be a function in Word that coul do this, wouldn't you? Damn Microsoft nerds... Cheers, Michael |
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12 Jan 05 - 08:19 PM (#1377799) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: Mary in Kentucky BPL - I had another thought. I used PSP to draw a large blue, filled circle. Then I wrote the words "MUDCATTERS UNITE" around the circumference. I had to write each letter individually and then rotate it - about 5-10 degress each time going around the circle, using type size ~20. It's not too bad. I guess it depends on the type face, etc. if you want it to look professional. |
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12 Jan 05 - 08:28 PM (#1377806) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: Bill D nice trick, Mary! a bit tedious, but if you only have to do it once, I guess it is an option... (some programs will rotate by single degrees, some only in larger jumps.) (glad it worked, michaelr)...I LOVE my freeware!) |
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13 Jan 05 - 12:55 AM (#1377953) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: JohnInKansas In many drawing/drafting programs, the usual way to create "text on an arc" is to place a single letter and then create a "circular/polar array" duplicating the letter at equally spaced intervals around an arc - or around a complete circle. You then "edit text" to change each individual copy of the letter in the array to the appropriate different one. This will sometimes work in simple graphics programs if they have a "copy array" or "create array" function, and if it does it is a little easier than placing each character and then rotating each one separately. Some photo-editing programs allow you to "distort" things, and you can type straight line text and then "warp" it to freehand shapes. If you don't see a way to do what you want in text instructions in your program, you might look for "warp" or "distort" functions in your help files. If this method works, it's usually easier to create and bend the text in a separate image, and then copy it onto your other artwork after the bending is done. It's the same method used to take the "love handles" off of Uncle Fred to make him look a little more studly in the family photos. John |
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13 Jan 05 - 12:34 PM (#1378146) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: Bill D well, John's mention of 'distortion' programs reminded me of one I have. Originally in German, it now has an English interface. It is called AnmanieSMP and by creating an image of a piece of text (with a screen capture program) this is what I did with it. It would take lot of work with the various distortion features to get a real circle, or symmetrical shape, but if you just want to play, it is neat! (Before, I have used it mostly on pics of people, to create caricatures ....like Mona Lisa with a frown) |
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13 Jan 05 - 01:32 PM (#1378218) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: TheBigPinkLad Thanks for the advice (and apologies for hijacking the thread). I've tried most of the methods mentioned. Very tedious though they are. This is kinda what I'd like to create ... (A href="http://www.thelogocreator.com/Tutorials/badge/index.html">logo in Bill's earlier link)I was hoping there would be some method like 'type, then click here' sort of thing. |
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13 Jan 05 - 01:34 PM (#1378219) Subject: RE: Tech: MS Word fonts From: TheBigPinkLad damn! warped blickie ...not gonna be my day is it ... Bill's logo |
