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18 Jan 05 - 12:48 PM (#1381411) Subject: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: saulgoldie I was sure that there was a thread about this or that someone else had mentioned it (as I did in the "Meet you in DC" thread). But anyway, here it is: http://www.notonedamndime.com/boycott/ I decided to make a larger statement. On "that day" I will send donations to the ACLU, Naral, TruthOut, MoveOn, and a few others whose help we will be increasingly relying on to get us through this terrible period. (I already sent my donation to the tsunami relief.) |
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18 Jan 05 - 01:33 PM (#1381444) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Wesley S The the thread titled "BLACK THURSDAY" |
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18 Jan 05 - 01:34 PM (#1381446) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Wesley S I was trying to say - See the thread called "BLACK THURSDAY" |
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18 Jan 05 - 01:42 PM (#1381456) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: GUEST Please also remember your local charities--especially the food shelves, which are pretty bare since the tsunami. It's important to help those who are really hurting as a result of the shrub bastard's policies, as well as those fighting his policies. |
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18 Jan 05 - 05:32 PM (#1381692) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Stilly River Sage I posted a link to this in that Black Thursday thread. I have my doubts about this boycott--it is a shotgun approach with a remedy that doesn't match the problem. SRS |
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18 Jan 05 - 05:38 PM (#1381696) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: wysiwyg On NODD Day, I'll sleep in and save my usual grocery money-- for the next day, when I'll spend it as usual with the neighbor who runs the grovery. His livelihood depends on the good will of us all in this little community, as we depend upon him to keep us provisioned. ~S~ |
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18 Jan 05 - 05:46 PM (#1381711) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Donuel http://www.angelfire.com/md2/customviolins/reagandime.jpg |
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18 Jan 05 - 05:48 PM (#1381714) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Kim C What Snopes has to say |
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18 Jan 05 - 06:04 PM (#1381735) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Stilly River Sage Thanks for the link, Kim. I like their term "slacktivism." It certainly applies to this non-event! |
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18 Jan 05 - 08:28 PM (#1381844) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: MarkS Didn't we go through this for the price of gas not too long ago? Didn't do a blasted thing to bring down the price of gas, but hey, if it makes you feel good, do it! Worst that can happen is that it makes you think about why you are doing it and maybe keeps you on focus. Mark |
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18 Jan 05 - 09:11 PM (#1381875) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Peace As with many forms of protest, it may serve to strengthen the resolve of those who participate. That's good enough for now, no? |
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18 Jan 05 - 09:37 PM (#1381893) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Bobert I day? Nah... Take out the big Bush supporters 365 day per year at a time... like we did in the early 70's in supporting the migrant laborers and Ceazer Chavez's grape boycott... 365!!!!... Bobert |
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18 Jan 05 - 10:15 PM (#1381911) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Stilly River Sage Okay, Bobert, you don't buy anything from Halliburton's catalog all year. Do you think you can resist that temptation? ;-) |
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18 Jan 05 - 10:30 PM (#1381927) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Peace True Bobert. I didn't eat a California grape for so many years it was unreal. The boycott had been over for three years before I found out. I love grapes. |
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18 Jan 05 - 10:33 PM (#1381932) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Bobert Haha...SRS... I'm sure we can find thru a simple Google search the folks who are givin' the big and un-reg'd bucks to the Repubs this weekend for the big Bush bash... They are a good start... Screw Halliburton... They're just thieves... Can't get tom 'um except thru the ballot box... which is rigged... Bobert |
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18 Jan 05 - 11:45 PM (#1381965) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: DougR I have been saving up since I heard of this idiotic scheme. I haven't bought anything for days. On Inaguaral day, I'm going to buy a new car, a new swimming pool, a new wardrobe, and I'm going tip all servers double for breakfas, lunch and dinner in fine restaurants! So what do you think about that, saulgoldie baby? DougR |
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19 Jan 05 - 12:09 AM (#1381989) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: LadyJean Someone is suggesting that people wear black on innauguration day. The point is, I think, to let dubya know that 51% is not a mandate. It's barely a victory. |
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19 Jan 05 - 09:25 AM (#1382242) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: saulgoldie DougR, I am not responsible for your behavior. You have demonstrated in your many posts that you are an unabashed Bush devotee, and no fact or testimony as to the suffering and destruction he has caused and will cause will sway you from that. But as others have suggested, I may temper my non-spending with regard to those who do not support the war and are not the fat-cat salaried golden parachute types. But I will also (for THAT day and all others) ramp up my conscious spending mindset so that I less and less support the bad guys. If you choose to support them, that is your karma. |
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19 Jan 05 - 09:27 AM (#1382243) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: saulgoldie And don't call me "baby" unless you are also sending flowers and buying chocolate...on some other day, please. |
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19 Jan 05 - 09:32 AM (#1382251) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Bobert Ahhh, Dougie. What kinda car you gonna buy? And where were the clothes you are buying made? Just curious... Bobert |
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19 Jan 05 - 09:52 AM (#1382260) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Once Famous saulgoldie, bubula, I am also going to spend money on "White Thursday" to support my local merchants and to take care of my family. I am quite sure your agenda will go quite unnoticed, but you will have some more money to buy a good steak for yourself the next day. |
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19 Jan 05 - 10:12 AM (#1382274) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Stilly River Sage Interpretation of the spending vs non-spending will certainly be skewed by those of us who haven't spent any money all week (and not much all month) after the spending over the holidays. It all has to balance out, and at our house, we're waiting for the last of the holiday bills to arrive. In anticipation of paying them off in a timely fashion I'm saving my cash and am going through my usual January frugal stage of finishing up leftovers, revisiting the cupboards and the freezer to draw down canned and frozen goods. It's that annual cycle to use last year's stocks and prepare to replace them with fresh. It has nothing to do with Dubya one way or the other. I'm not even dropping $20 to attend my local Democratic Party's non-Inaugural Ball tomorrow night, a party with the Great Depression as it's theme. SRS |
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19 Jan 05 - 10:39 AM (#1382299) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Once Famous SRS, why would anyone use the Great Depression as a theme for a party? Are people supposed to come to it and leave hungry? |
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19 Jan 05 - 10:52 AM (#1382309) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Stilly River Sage One could argue that democrats have experienced a great depression for a number of years now, Martin. They're gonna stay hungry for another four years, at least. |
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19 Jan 05 - 10:59 AM (#1382316) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Once Famous Well, they completely run Illinois. The Republican party is in complete shambles here and they deserve to be. |
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19 Jan 05 - 04:55 PM (#1382582) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Dani It's over???!! Dannit, I MISSED IT! We can eat grapes again?! My children don't know what they taste like: old habits die hard. Now we (I) eat local scuppernongs, and they suit just fine. Dani |
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19 Jan 05 - 06:15 PM (#1382648) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Clinton Hammond "Not One Damn Dime Day" What a stupid idea... |
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19 Jan 05 - 06:44 PM (#1382673) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Bee-dubya-ell Regarding the Snopes link Kim C provided above, while I do, in fact, pretty much agree with their analysis, I think they're stepping a bit outside if their bailiwick in offering that analysis before the protest has even taken place. Claim: Participating in a 'Not One Damn Dime Day' is an effective way to protest the war in Iraq. Status: Probably not. What they are doing is speculating and offering their opinion, which, though it may be a very educated opinion, is still just an opinion. Snopes's reputation has been built on trying to provide factual information to help prove or disprove the validity of certain things some people believe to be true. They are not proving or disproving anything regarding "Not One Damn Dime Day". Maybe, come next week they can say factually that the protest didn't work, but all they can possibly do at this point is to offer an opinion and, since many people look to them as an authoritative source for factual information, some people will automatically give Snopes's opinion the weight of fact. They need to just go back to debunking myths and rumors. |
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19 Jan 05 - 07:51 PM (#1382734) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Stilly River Sage Since there is apparently no legitimate measure that can be taken (no mechanism in place), and exit polls at stores and online web sales sites are likely to be spotty, I think their educated guess is a pretty good one. A few television stations will send cub reporters to the malls to ask silly questions of teenaged shoppers, and that will be the extent of it. SRS |
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19 Jan 05 - 08:18 PM (#1382751) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Peace The protest is between those who protest and their consciences. Will this change things? For those people it will. Sometimes that has to be enough. Dani: I have never eaten a scuppernong. The only time other than your post that I have encountered the word was in "To Kill a Mockingbird". What are they like? Sorry for the thread drift. |
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19 Jan 05 - 08:20 PM (#1382753) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: dianavan What will you be doing to protest SRS? |
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19 Jan 05 - 11:05 PM (#1382856) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Stilly River Sage Nothing. I've been bitching about Bush for 10 years, since he was governor of Texas, where I happen to live right now. A "protest" is a waste of my time because it won't accomplish one single damned thing. I'll continue to bitch about Bush and to make lucid arguments as to why he is so wrong for this country. He doesn't "execute the office of President of the United States," he is slowly executing the U.S. Along these lines, here's what a friend posted to a literary discussion list today:
essay in Orion about how we know what's killing our earth, but corporate minds do it anyway. i believe americans are really seriously losing the concept that food comes from earth. we are the most vulnerable people on this planet and are losing the knowledge and skills required to survive. can't eat a computer. I'm waiting to get the exact citation back on this, but Orion is here. Bush is definitely part of the problem, but we're letting him do it. So we have to stop being part of the problem, don't we? I'm not saying this to be rude or flippant, but I'm just not impressed by this act of not shopping. Not shopping. Like, how can I make it a day without going to the mall. I'll probably do some digging in my garden, the weather is supposed to be warmer tomorrow. I might just have to live off of that produce one of these days. SRS |
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19 Jan 05 - 11:46 PM (#1382896) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Once Famous dianavan promises not to buy new batteries for her vibrator on this day. |
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20 Jan 05 - 12:03 AM (#1382902) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: DougR Thought I might by a Hummer, Bobert. I hear it gets very good mileage. :>) DougR |
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20 Jan 05 - 08:04 AM (#1383085) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: saulgoldie Now see, Martin, that is what I am talking about. We are having a polite discussion here, with people weighing in on both sides and many in between and you go making a vulgar ad hominen attack on one of the participants. That does not add ANYTHING of substance, and makes you look like a boor. Hence my earlier inquiry. |
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20 Jan 05 - 11:29 AM (#1383243) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: GUEST,bbc at work Here's my day to support my country & its duly elected President. Gotta get some milk on the way home from work! Barbara |
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20 Jan 05 - 12:18 PM (#1383289) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Dewey On my budget every day is is the above day for me, shouldn't be too hard to live up to this one. Dewey |
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20 Jan 05 - 12:33 PM (#1383310) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: GUEST,mrr Oops - does it help that what I spent, accidentally, was gubmint money? I get food stamps and got lunch... |
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20 Jan 05 - 02:44 PM (#1383467) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Once Famous Oh, big deal saulgoldie. I'm not losing any sleep over it. BTW, I enjoyed a nice juicy steak for lunch today, as promised. |
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20 Jan 05 - 03:19 PM (#1383498) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: wysiwyg I'm protesting that no one gave ME one damn dime today! :~) ~S~ |
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20 Jan 05 - 03:55 PM (#1383534) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Once Famous There's no free lunch, you know. A dime doesn't buy much, anyway. |
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20 Jan 05 - 10:40 PM (#1383880) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: DougR Wow, brucie, so it was YOU who was responsible for the great grape crisis in California! I'm impressed. I hope you didn't start drinking French wine though instead of the California variety. :>) DougR |
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20 Jan 05 - 10:44 PM (#1383881) Subject: RE: BS: Not One Damn Dime Day From: Peace Naw, Doug. Muscatel for me. |
