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12 Feb 05 - 08:28 PM (#1407731) Subject: BS: Will progressive Wis Sen Feingold run? From: GUEST He is already looking like he will be doing an exploratory committee by 2006... Feingold for President? |
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13 Feb 05 - 05:29 PM (#1408466) Subject: RE: BS: Will progressive Wis Sen Feingold run? From: Stephen L. Rich Let's hope so! I've heard that the Republicans just might run Senator McCain next time around. That would certainly keep things interesting. Stephen Lee |
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13 Feb 05 - 07:00 PM (#1408558) Subject: RE: BS: Will progressive Wis Sen Feingold run? From: GUEST It would, wouldn't it? But McCain is very much an outsider from the current neocon administration. The neo-cons detest him. Who do you suppose the neocons will want to run in 2008? It can't be Cheney, because everyone is too afraid of him to vote for him. He looks scarier than Frankenstein. So the question is, could two "outsider" senators succeed in getting both party nominations in 2008? I kinda doubt even one can, though Feingold stands a much better chance now that Dean is in at the DNC, than McCain has with that other Kenny boy at RNC. |
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13 Feb 05 - 07:21 PM (#1408586) Subject: RE: BS: Will progressive Wis Sen Feingold run? From: Stephen L. Rich Good point. |
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14 Feb 05 - 01:45 PM (#1409513) Subject: RE: BS: Will progressive Wis Sen Feingold run? From: DougR Cheney won't run because he's already announced that nothing could persuade him to. "Four more years and I'm out of here!" As to Feingold, I devoutly hope he runs. DougR |
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14 Feb 05 - 01:46 PM (#1409515) Subject: RE: BS: Will progressive Wis Sen Feingold run? From: GUEST |
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14 Feb 05 - 01:53 PM (#1409528) Subject: RE: BS: Will progressive Wis Sen Feingold run? From: curmudgeon But what do you think about McCain, Doug? |
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15 Feb 05 - 01:40 PM (#1410687) Subject: RE: BS: Will progressive Wis Sen Feingold run? From: DougR I am not a fan of McCain. DougR |
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16 Feb 05 - 12:25 AM (#1411483) Subject: RE: BS: Will progressive Wis Sen Feingold run? From: GUEST,Auggie (who ate my Cookie?) As someone who has watched Feingold 'up close and personal' from here in his own state I can predict that 1) if you nominate him, he will run a tremendous campaign 2) if you elect him, he won't do what you expect He's personable, perhaps even charismatic, intelligent without coming off as condescending, quick-witted, extremely independant, and extremely liberal. A true maverick (and one blessed with horse sense rather than a horse face) I think he'd nonetheless be a hard sell nationally at this point in his career. He's quite far left at a time when the DNC is talking about moving more to the center to recapture/retain republican-leaning voters, and he's from a small state (electorially) that's traditionally voted democratic anyway. While it's important to remember almost no one gave him a snowball's chance of winning the senate seat he now holds back when he first ran for it, still I'd have to say it's more likely to see him in the #2 slot, if at all on the '08 ticket. If you like the traditional Democratic party line, you could do a whole lot worse than this guy. |
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16 Feb 05 - 08:32 AM (#1411675) Subject: RE: BS: Will progressive Wis Sen Feingold run? From: GUEST I respectfully disagree with you Auggie. The Democrats were thrown out of power when they moved to the center, and that is why they aren't winning elections. They steadily lost their own party base through attrition and apathy, which caused many liberal voters to not vote. The same thing happened to the conservatives back in the Goldwater era. People forget that Goldwater lost, but Richard Nixon won, by the largest margin of victory since FDR. I don't think Feingold's liberalism is a hindrance at this point, because the Democratic party isn't going to regain power until it moves back to the left, and starts working on capturing the votes of the centrists fed up with the Republicans dismantling the government, and driving truck loads of money into the coffers of their corrupt shadow establishment AND their own liberal base, whom they abandoned when they moved far to the right with Bill Clinton. John Kerry didn't lose the race because he lost the center. John Kerry lost the race because he didn't have the liberal left voters supporting him. |
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16 Feb 05 - 08:36 AM (#1411677) Subject: RE: BS: Will progressive Wis Sen Feingold run? From: GUEST,jim tailor I don't know about that commonly-held wisdom that moving to the center was the Democrats undoing. If there were no term limits, Bill Clinton would still be president. |