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Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)

13 Feb 05 - 11:23 AM (#1408119)
Subject: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg

I can't tell if this is the same song mentioned by this title in other threads, but a clip of what I heard is HERE.

I'm also interested in any other songs on that CD that are not in my Patterson book, "Shaker Spirituals."

Thanks,

~Susan


13 Feb 05 - 11:56 AM (#1408139)
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: Malcolm Douglas

If you mean the Lay me Low recorded by the Albion Band back in the 1970s (and mentioned briefly in some past threads), then it's the same song as the clip; though that's too short and indistinct to tell if the words differ. The 1978 label just says "arr. Tams"; no indication as to where he got it.


13 Feb 05 - 12:06 PM (#1408150)
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg

Malcolm, I don't know if that is the same song. In any event, you don't have the Albion item?

~Susan


13 Feb 05 - 12:44 PM (#1408193)
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: masato sakurai

Possibly the same as the version in Andrews' The Gift To Be Simple (p. 119):

X:1
T:Lay Me Low
M:3/4
L:1/4
K:C
e2 (d/c/)|\
w:Lay me_
M:2/4
L:1/4
d2|\
w:low,
M:3/4
L:1/4
e2 (d/c/)|\
w:Lay me_
M:2/4
L:1/4
(c/A3/2)|\
w:low_,
M:3/4
L:1/4
{A}c2 (A/G/)|
w:Lay me_
M:4/4
L:1/4
({G}A3/2c/) c2|\
w:low_ low
M:2/4
L:1/4
e2|\
w:Where
M:3/4
L:1/4
e d c |\
w:Moth-er can
M:4/4
L:1/4
d2 d2|\
w:find me,
M:2/4
L:1/4
e2|\
w:Where
M:3/4
L:1/4
e d c|
w:Moth-er can
M:4/4
L:1/4
(c3/2A/) A2|\
w:own_ me,
M:2/4
L:1/4
({A}c3/2A/)|\
w:Where_
M:3/4
L:1/4
A G G|\
w:Moth-er can
M:4/4
L:1/4
({G}A3/2c/) c2|]
w:bless_ me.


13 Feb 05 - 01:28 PM (#1408232)
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg

Once again, my friend Masato, you bring my heart's desire. That is indeed it, and in the version I heard, I note they have done what I do-- adjusted the lyric for a theological shift: Where MY LORD can...."

Thank you my friend!

~Susan


13 Feb 05 - 01:50 PM (#1408259)
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg

Masato, on the CD, the song appears to be attributed Addah Z. Potter. Does Andrews give any details as to time, place, and "author" (recipient) of song?

Thanks especially for the ABC. I'm having fun trying to re-time it as a MIDI more in line with the recorded interpretation, for congregational singing.

~Susan


13 Feb 05 - 02:34 PM (#1408299)
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: Malcolm Douglas

The tune Masato quotes is essentially the same as the online clip which, as I indicated, is the same as used for the Albion arrangement. John Tams may have modified the words a little (my copy is vinyl and the record deck is buried under books at the moment); I think that "Where Mother can find me" became "Where no one can find me," but it's some years since I've listened to it.


13 Feb 05 - 05:01 PM (#1408431)
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg

Thanks, Malcolm. I didn't realize earlier that you meant that the tune seemed the same. Interesting lyric use of it!

~S~


13 Feb 05 - 05:17 PM (#1408447)
Subject: ADD: Lay Me Low (Tams)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Tams rendering:

LAY ME LOW
(arr. Tams)

Lay me low, lay me low, lay me low,
Where no-one can see me
Where no one can find me
Where no one can hurt me.

Show me the way, help me to say
All that I need to
All that I needed you gave me
All that I wanted you made me
When I stumbled you saved me.

Lay me low---

Throw me a line, help me to find
Something to cling to
When the loneliness haunts me,
When the bitterness taunts me
When the emptyness eats me.

Lay me low---

http://www.coopeboyesandsimpson.co.uk/lay_me_low.htm

Wysiwyg, could you please post the lyrics from the cd if you have the time?
It will be interesting to see and compare the Shaker song.


13 Feb 05 - 06:30 PM (#1408537)
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg

Q, I don't have the CD yet but I will post them when it arrives.

~S~


14 Feb 05 - 03:56 AM (#1408990)
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: masato sakurai

Susan, here's Andrews' comment:
    39. LAY ME LOW

A "gift song" received by Addah Z. Potter of the New Lebanon Church order on April 15, 1838. One of many songs of humility and "mortification" written during the manifestations, this piece has a curious American Indian quality, slow, soft and plaintive. The tune is modal.


14 Feb 05 - 04:16 AM (#1408997)
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: masato sakurai

"Lay Me Low" (Kevin Siegfried) sung by the Stonewall Chorale.


14 Feb 05 - 08:00 AM (#1409109)
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg

Thanks, Masato! And that recording is longer and clearer than the Amazon clip.

~S~


14 Feb 05 - 08:00 AM (#1409111)
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: wysiwyg

PS, I ordered the Andrews book.

~S~


19 May 14 - 07:40 PM (#3627239)
Subject: RE: Lyr/Tune Req: Lay Me Low (Shaker?)
From: NigelParry

Here you go, Youtube;

http://youtu.be/X2Gx27jRbYo