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20 Mar 05 - 02:43 PM (#1439070) Subject: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Sorcha Trying to find out just how old an egg needs to be before it will peel properly when hard cooked. Firecat didn't know, so she asked Badger. He waid, just put the hen in the pot and don't worry about it. NOW, I want to know what would happen if the hen was really about to lay an egg and you did put the hen in the pot???? Would you get a hard cooked egg? |
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20 Mar 05 - 02:44 PM (#1439073) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Clinton Hammond We really gotta find you a hobby don't we sorch... ;-P |
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20 Mar 05 - 02:48 PM (#1439078) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: John MacKenzie Eggs are soft as they are laid, but only for a second or so, so if you boil the hen you're obviously going to get a soft boiled egg. Giok ¦¬] |
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20 Mar 05 - 02:51 PM (#1439079) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: gnu If you boil a hen without cleaning it, I would think the feathers would be the firth problem. |
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20 Mar 05 - 02:52 PM (#1439081) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Rapparee My grandma used to do that a lot. She raised hens and even a rooster or two in the backyard chicken coop. Got lots of eggs and the occassional chicken for Sunday dinner. She'd grab one of us kids (usually my youngest brother, Ted) and we'd catch a chicken for her. Then we'd hold it while grandma cut off the chicken's head with her little red hatchet. She'd draw the bird, pluck it, and roast it with a stuffing of sage, home-made bread, and I don't remember what all. As for putting the hen in the pot, I sort of suspect that you'd get an egg. A plain old egg, uncooked and uncleaned, and a messy pot. That is, assuming you could keep the ol' hen in there to start with. They can get right feisty. Now, if you put a fire under the pot, I can't tell you what might happen, except that you'd be giving the hen one heckuva hot foot. |
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20 Mar 05 - 02:56 PM (#1439084) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Sorcha Well, I'm not planning to try it, but yes, kill and pluck.....would the egg pop out when you killed her? |
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20 Mar 05 - 03:00 PM (#1439085) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Ebbie That reminds of a long lost memory. Once in awhile my mother was mistaken when she culled the hens for non-layers and while we were butchering we'd find several neatly formed and encased eggs in the egg tract. As Rap said, the shells are soft and leathery- kind of like turtle eggs - until they've been exposed to the air. Oddly the eggs are formed from the outside in- the shell gets larger and larger until it is ready for the trip. Mom was always rueful- laying hens were a prized commodity. |
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20 Mar 05 - 03:05 PM (#1439086) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Sorcha Thank you Ebbie. Can you recall if the eggs in the tract were edible? |
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20 Mar 05 - 04:18 PM (#1439132) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Ebbie I don't know if they were edible. For all I know, Mom added them to omelets, but I don't really remember. I do remember opening one with a knife just to see what was inside. It was mainly yolk, as I recall. |
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20 Mar 05 - 04:29 PM (#1439139) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Sorcha This page says that unlaid eggs are used for things like biscuits, baby food etc. Also tells the horrors of 'battery hens'. I didn't know they were de beaked! |
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20 Mar 05 - 05:12 PM (#1439164) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Rapparee My grandma never debeaked her chickens. Nope, she used the beaks in the morning oatmeal -- which is why my grandpa often felt a bit peckish. |
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20 Mar 05 - 05:18 PM (#1439168) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Bill D to Turkey in the Straw "Oh, we had a little chicken, and it wouldn't lay an egg, So we poured hot water up and down its leg. And the little chicken cried and the little chicken begged, And the little chicken layed a hard-boiled egg." |
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20 Mar 05 - 05:19 PM (#1439169) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Ebbie hah hah, Rap. Reminds me of the old joke: (from the kitchen: Mama, do I have to eat my egg? (from the other room.) Yes, of course. Eat your egg and let's have no more fuss about it. (Silence, then): Do I have to eat the beak too? |
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21 Mar 05 - 03:36 AM (#1439446) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: John MacKenzie Sounds like 'the curate's egg' cartoon from Punch. Giok |
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21 Mar 05 - 10:52 AM (#1439690) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: GUEST,MMario yes the eggs in the tract would be edible. Yolks are fully formed before they break free of the ovaries and enter the oviduct. The whites and shells are then formed around them as they descend the tract. |
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21 Mar 05 - 01:50 PM (#1439820) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Ebbie Debeaking is not generally quite as horrendous as it sounds in that article. Basically, the premise is to remove the 'pecking' part of the upper beak. It is done because chickens tend to pursue any bare or bloody spot on neighboring chickens often pecking the flesh to the bone. A de-beaked chicken looks odd because the the ends of the upper and lower beak no longer meet but I have never heard anyone suggest that it remains painful, and I'm not sure how anyone would know. It is certainly no more painful to perform than the de-horning of a bovine. |
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21 Mar 05 - 01:59 PM (#1439822) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: GUEST,MMario correctly done de-beaking is as painless as trimmiing your fingernails. |
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21 Mar 05 - 05:16 PM (#1439949) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Firecat I blame dad for this! |
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21 Mar 05 - 05:31 PM (#1439960) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Col K Firecat, You blame Dad for everything. |
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21 Mar 05 - 05:35 PM (#1439968) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Sorcha Well, I thought it was a valid question, and I found out the answer! So there! I can't help it if I'm just weird! |
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21 Mar 05 - 10:23 PM (#1440190) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Rapparee My brothers and I once fed my grandma's chicken on gunpowder and nitroglycerin. Them ol' hens'd lay an egg, and the explosion would boost 'em clean into orbit. Then we collected the eggs to use on the Fourth of July, only Uncle Jack tried to fry up some for breakfast. The least said about that the better -- but the poor guy did give one burp and blew himself pret' near to St. Louie. They scrambled a whole wing of jet fighters at Scott Air Force Base when he showed up on radar, too. |
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21 Mar 05 - 10:32 PM (#1440201) Subject: RE: BS: Hens and Eggs...What If.... From: Bobert Put 'um in cold water before peelin'.... |