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24 Mar 05 - 03:37 AM (#1442293) Subject: miserable From: mindblaster Why are traditional (english) folk session players such a miserable lot? Funny 'cos their music is usually uptempo joyous stuff. But there they sit, with long faces, their beards dipping into their real ale. Try and drum up a conversation and all you'll get is a look of bewilderment or if your lucky a contentious grunt. Come on folks cheer up! |
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24 Mar 05 - 03:49 AM (#1442305) Subject: RE: miserable From: Dave Hanson sod off. eric |
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24 Mar 05 - 04:51 AM (#1442325) Subject: RE: miserable From: GUEST, Hamish Harumph! |
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24 Mar 05 - 04:54 AM (#1442327) Subject: RE: miserable From: Leadfingers Come on , Eric , you're not at a session now ! Mindblaster , we look serious at sessions because most of us have to concentrate too hard on what we are playing , and we dont talk while we are playing because , being mere males (Most of us , anyway!) we have difficulty doing two things at the same time . Sometimes , I have trouble walking and talking at the same time !! |
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24 Mar 05 - 06:11 AM (#1442365) Subject: RE: miserable From: Sttaw Legend Nowt so funny as FOLK |
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24 Mar 05 - 06:13 AM (#1442367) Subject: RE: miserable From: Davetnova I'm not English, I'm allowed to be grumpy. |
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24 Mar 05 - 06:37 AM (#1442381) Subject: RE: miserable From: GUEST,Bill the Collie You should toddle along to our Investment Group - some truly magnificent curmudgeons there. Treasure them. |
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24 Mar 05 - 07:08 AM (#1442416) Subject: RE: miserable From: jacqui.c 1. Most of them will be listening to the person singing to check that they get the words and the tune right. 2. How would you feel when yet another Child ballad of 48 verses gets going? 3. The beer's the thing! Mindblaster - what sessions have you been going to? I've only ever been to one that might come close to your description. Most are one hell of a lot of fun! |
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24 Mar 05 - 07:15 AM (#1442426) Subject: RE: miserable From: Dipsodeb It must be the company your keeping LOL |
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24 Mar 05 - 07:59 AM (#1442463) Subject: RE: miserable From: A Wandering Minstrel try offering to get in a round and see how quickly they will brighten up...;) |
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24 Mar 05 - 08:50 AM (#1442509) Subject: RE: miserable From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Hi Mindblaster, I'm not a traddie myself, but I do run a club, and perhaps I can help. I would say that you will be unlikely to get a response if you are talking while someone is performing. They are passionate about their love of music, and will be giving all their attention to that. Not, I hasten to add, checking on the performance, but simply enjoying the song and, of course, being polite and respecting the performer. If, however, you received that response in the interval, then I would say you were unlucky to have chosen a club which doesn't deserve your support. It certainly would not happen at my club, and I don't find it happening at the many clubs I visit. Please don't stop going to folk clubs, as I think you will find that the majority are good fun, but I would suggest that you strike off your "To visit" list the ones that do turn out as you describe. Don T. |
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24 Mar 05 - 06:38 PM (#1443009) Subject: RE: miserable From: mindblaster No - this is a club I have gone to for years. I would never try to speak when the musicians are playing, I have also got many a round in. |
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28 Mar 05 - 04:57 PM (#1445614) Subject: RE: miserable From: GUEST This sounds like a session not a club. And it must be instrumentalists, not singers. We had some in our local for St Patricks night - not a "group", but about a dozen regular attenders at the monthly session there. They sat in a corner (not the separate room they usually occupy) and played irish jigs and reels all night. They never smiled, never engaged (or even acknowledged) the other customers they were supposed to be entertaining. A singer is always trying to communicate with his/her audience, but these "serious musicians" play only to please and impress each other, and despise the very concept of an "audience" And there won't be much real ale in a session. Singers will knock back gallons of the stuff in an evening, but instrumentalists know that their capabilities decline rapidly after the second pint. So low alcohol lagers, or soft drinks are the order of the day. Joy has no place in music making and must be eliminated. Leave it to those toadying charlatans who prostitute their sacred art by singing to people who have not been initiated into the exclusive priesthood. |
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29 Mar 05 - 02:52 AM (#1445715) Subject: RE: miserable From: GUEST Ooh a contentious grunt.. what I wouldnt do to get a contentious grunt... |
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29 Mar 05 - 10:33 AM (#1445840) Subject: RE: miserable From: GUEST,breezy not all session instrument players are as you describe. 99.9% maybe |
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29 Mar 05 - 10:49 AM (#1445856) Subject: RE: miserable From: GUEST,Rapaire If I'm playing, I find it hard to either talk or sing or do much else at all at the same time. Of course, I do play a trumpet. |
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29 Mar 05 - 02:43 PM (#1446081) Subject: RE: miserable From: treewind That's the reason why we like to play in sessions - so we can avoid having to make conversation! Anahata |
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29 Mar 05 - 02:50 PM (#1446088) Subject: RE: miserable From: Rasener Didn't know you were miserable Anahata :-) Les |
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29 Mar 05 - 02:55 PM (#1446095) Subject: RE: miserable From: Once Famous mindblaster What you describe is the complete opposite of the bluegrass players in America. They are joyous to be with, have a great time playing together and enjoying comraderie. |
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29 Mar 05 - 05:44 PM (#1446280) Subject: RE: miserable From: woodsie Exactly! But for some reason the ebglish session players have always got these long faces and dont welcome strangers. |
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29 Mar 05 - 05:48 PM (#1446286) Subject: RE: miserable From: mindblaster I would never try and talk to somebody while they are playing - I'm talking about trying to communicate with these people when they first arrive, or when they are at the bar, or in the break. They will always accept a pint, mind you a lot only drink lemonade. Don't get me wrong, the music is great, but why are the players miserable? |
