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Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music

31 Mar 05 - 11:09 PM (#1448572)
Subject: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,Jean

Hi -

I am trying to find a copy of the sheet music for the song "Kilkelly". Does anyone know where I might find it? My friend and I were hoping to perform it together as one last hurrah with our friends before disbanding for grad school, but we can't seem to find anything but the lyrics.

If you can help please post here or reply at jeanimal209@yahoo.com

THANK YOU


01 Apr 05 - 07:30 AM (#1448849)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Willa

You might be able to use the midi from this thread to help you.
@displaysong.cfm?SongID=3394


01 Apr 05 - 11:34 AM (#1449093)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

E mail sent. I have the sheet music.


02 Apr 05 - 08:12 PM (#1450503)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

Sheet music sent as per e mail request.


03 Apr 05 - 06:03 PM (#1451157)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST

Thank you and Thank you!


17 May 05 - 06:22 PM (#1486855)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,sjrippe@earthlink.net

I am looking for the sheet music to Kilkelly, could anyone help me out?


23 Oct 05 - 08:20 PM (#1589324)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,trump@dreamscape.com

Could I get the sheet music for Kilkelly Ireland?
                   Natalie Trump


17 Nov 05 - 10:40 AM (#1607262)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Clare Morris for Sorcha
From: GUEST,dugiegemmill@aol.com

Sorcha, would it be possible for you to email me the music for Kilkelly, Ireland ? Thanks


17 Nov 05 - 02:42 PM (#1607440)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

OK, OK....I swear, I'm just gonna leave the scan in the computer.


17 Nov 05 - 02:46 PM (#1607443)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

PS...Am I the only person on the planet who has this music? LOL...


17 Nov 05 - 02:58 PM (#1607452)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: MMario

Sorcha - we have a midi available out on the mudcat pages - which with a little effort they can produce their own sheet music.

Also the ABC is at this thread and they can cut and paste that to concertina.net to get sheet music.


17 Nov 05 - 02:59 PM (#1607455)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

Well, the one to trump bounced. Looks like the other 2 went OK.


02 Dec 05 - 01:32 AM (#1618248)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,guest

I'm looking for the sheet music to Kilkelly as well, could someone please oblige? My email is kiljaeden12345@yahoo.com


02 Dec 05 - 08:56 AM (#1618439)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

OK....still in the computer.


02 Dec 05 - 09:00 AM (#1618446)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: MMario

Sorcha - maybe you *are* the only one with this sheet music....


02 Dec 05 - 09:45 AM (#1618499)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

It is beginning to get rather amusing!


21 Jan 06 - 06:28 PM (#1653113)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,angel22not@hotmail.com

If anyone could possibly pass the sheet music on to me I would love to perform Kilkelly for school competition and also perform for my grandmother is very proud of her Irish heritage. Thanks Jackie


21 Jan 06 - 07:30 PM (#1653128)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Janice in NJ

I never understood the popularity of this recently composed, overly maudlin song when there are so many truly wonderful and authentic songs of Irish emigrants. See for example all the wonderful numbers in The Irish in America collection by Dan Milner and Bob Conroy.


21 Jan 06 - 10:28 PM (#1653199)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Big Mick

Janice, this song is neither maudlin nor non authentic. I agree with you on Dan Milner's work (he does most of the collecting and reconstruction of the music he plays with Bob. Kilkelly is compelling because it is written from actual letters of Peter Jones Great Grandfather. I would say that makes it very authentic. As to the maudlin piece, once again it accurately describes the times and the troubles faced by Irish Emigrants in the US and the families left behind. I would agree that it is sung to death, and many of the interpretations lack depth. But the song is a jewel.

All the best,

Mick


21 Jan 06 - 11:24 PM (#1653222)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Jeremiah McCaw

For background on the song, try
Kilkelly
I've had a link to it on my own website (www.jeremiah.ca) for years.


22 Jan 06 - 11:08 AM (#1653445)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

I functioned.


22 Jan 06 - 12:07 PM (#1653490)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST

ICK! God, please let this long dirge go out of style soon!


22 Jan 06 - 07:21 PM (#1653862)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: John Hernandez

Mick is right that the song is based upon authentic letters, but he is also right that it has been sung to death. "Kilkelly" has become folk music's equivalent of "When Irish Eyes Are Smiling." I agree with Janice that it is overly maudlin, and I also agree with the anonymous guest who calls it a long dirge. Enough already. There are many better songs.


25 Feb 06 - 09:20 AM (#1678477)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,Elaine

Hi is it possible to get a copy of the sheet music please also? My email is summertimes1980@hotmail.com
Thanks
Elaine


25 Feb 06 - 09:40 AM (#1678486)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST

I do like this song, but I can't imagine why anyone would need sheet music for it. It is pretty bog basic - no more than four chords.


25 Feb 06 - 10:05 AM (#1678505)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

I'll get on it...


16 Mar 06 - 03:08 PM (#1695410)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST

Please send me sheet music too!!

Laurakeefe84@yahoo.com

Thank You


17 Mar 06 - 10:02 AM (#1696110)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

Good grief...OK....


17 Mar 06 - 10:52 AM (#1696185)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Arne

I agree with Janice that it is overly maudlin, and I also agree with the anonymous guest who calls it a long dirge.

Even hearing it for the 1000th time, it still chokes me up. Maybe a bit of repressed guilt ... we are the diaspora of the diaspora; my sibs are scattered across the U.S. and Canada, and our immediate family is the only one which left the "old country". And I haven't been back there since '84; my knowledge of the words "uncle", "aunt", and even "grandparents" is pretty much vicarious.

And now, as my parents themselves are in their late 70's, every next day they may well be gone, and we see them maybe once a year,

So when I hear the song, I keep saying I'll mend my ways and take more time for family ... and forget these promises promptly until the next time.

Moloney, O'Connell and Keane have one of the definitive versions, of course.

Call it maudlin, if you will, and just wait for the next song ... it'll be along in ten minutes or so. And I'm sure that there's some songs that really touch you that might leave me cold too. NP, there's plenty enough room for all. Overplayed???   Hardly. You want overplayed and maudlin and definitely non-Irish and non-authentic? You'd do better to set your sights on Uncle Shelby's "Unicorn Song" (definitely funny, tho). And go rail against "When Irish Eyes...."

Cheers,


17 Mar 06 - 12:10 PM (#1696261)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Jeremiah McCaw

O dear great & powerful Sorcha - yet one more request for a copy of the sheet music! Not for me - it's for a friend. Really.

jeremiah@bfree.on.ca


17 Mar 06 - 12:28 PM (#1696274)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

LOL!


18 Mar 06 - 12:44 AM (#1696679)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,thurg

This is a great song - inspired and well-crafted. Maudlin it is not. However, any song will drive you nuts if you hear it too often, and in less-than-inspired-and-well-crafted performances.

Bear in mind, however, that, as was mentioned recently on another thread, "overplayed" is relative - I, for one, have never heard "Kilkenny" performed live.


27 Mar 06 - 10:16 PM (#1704281)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,Scarhart

I too would love to get the sheet music. My address is scarhart @ chivalry.com. A recent visitor to Cantaria sparked my interest; all the comments in this thread have definitely added to that interest, just to hear what all the comments on both sides mean.

Thanks in advance,

- S


27 Mar 06 - 10:41 PM (#1704298)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: harpmolly

I too get choked up, though I recognize why people say it's maudlin. I guess I have a reasonably high maudlin threshold (as long as they don't sing it on "Celtic Woman" I can probably put up with it ;)).

My personal connection to this song is because when I got the chance to spend the summer in Ireland in 1994, when I arrived there was a call in from my mom telling me that my grandfather had been taken off dialysis and only had a few days to live. I adored my grandfather (and the feeling I believe was mutual) and for years it had been established that I would sing at his funeral. But this was my only chance to spend the summer in Ireland--if I went back, I couldn't afford to return. I had to make the decision pretty quickly, and after thinking about it, it seemed to me that my grandfather (who was of strong Irish descent) would not want me to give up the chance to get to know Ireland. I chose to stay. But that doesn't mean it didn't hurt like hell.

So, every time I hear, "And it's funny the way he kept talking about you, he called for you at the end;/Why don't you think about coming to visit? we'd love to see you again...", of course it feels pretty personal.

Argh. Combined with my harp playing/grandmother's deathbed story, I'm beginning to sound like a Hallmark Hall of Fame movie. I guess that would explain why I have a high maudlin threshold *sigh*. But it's all true.

Molly


28 Mar 06 - 09:06 AM (#1704574)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: JudyB

Hi Sorcha -

While you've got the file out, would you please send me a copy as well?

Thanks!
JudyB
ipbar @ verizon . net


28 Mar 06 - 02:46 PM (#1704891)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

Played it again Sam


28 Mar 06 - 02:48 PM (#1704894)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: MMario

you may have to change your name to Sor(yes I have the sheet music for Kilkelly)cha


28 Mar 06 - 02:50 PM (#1704895)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

Hey, both the above emails bounced.......


28 Mar 06 - 02:51 PM (#1704896)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: MMario

sorcha - if you cut and pasted they both have spaces that need to be taken out.


28 Mar 06 - 03:08 PM (#1704904)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

Oh.
Try again


28 Mar 06 - 03:18 PM (#1704908)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

Didn't bounce that time

SorchWhoHasKillkellySheetMusicNoChords


28 Mar 06 - 04:03 PM (#1704930)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: JudyB

Got it - thanks so much, Sorcha! Sorry I forgot to mention that I had inserted spaces into my e-mail address to at least make the little web-crawling worms work a bit to harvest my address to send me yet more ads for obscure growth hormones and really great deals to help starving widows move their millions of dollars.

Thanks again!
JudyB


29 Apr 06 - 06:42 AM (#1729817)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST

Please send me sheet music too!!

laari@haefft.de

Thank you :)


29 Apr 06 - 10:01 AM (#1729902)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

Handled.


04 Jun 06 - 01:56 PM (#1752819)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,Fiddling Filly

Hello! I've been searching for the past day or two to find music for Kilkelly. Is it possible someone could send me the sheet music? I have the words, and chords would be nice to have, whether they're on a seperate file or on the same file. My e-mail is fiddling_filly@yahoo.com. Thanks!
F.F.


05 Jun 06 - 10:38 AM (#1753301)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

LOLOLOL! Once more, with feeling....


08 Jun 06 - 04:52 PM (#1755775)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

Well, I sent it, and she never even said thank you.


18 Jun 06 - 09:21 AM (#1762739)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,pbjorndal@cs.com

Would like to find the sheetmusic for Kilkelly ireland. Thanks


18 Jun 06 - 05:33 PM (#1763116)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

ROFROFROF!!! Ok.


20 Jun 06 - 08:33 PM (#1765127)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: PNB

Thanks, I am forever indebted to you!


21 Jun 06 - 08:14 AM (#1765439)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: MMario

HOORAY! A reponse!


14 Aug 06 - 10:18 AM (#1809472)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,Lady Niniane

It's been a little while, so I'll stick another request in here.

Could I pretty please with honey mead have a copy of the sheet music for Kilkelly?

Send to mistressniniane @ gmail.com (watch the spaces)

Thank you very much.


14 Aug 06 - 01:39 PM (#1809599)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

ROF! Yes Ma'm.....on it's way.


14 Aug 06 - 04:24 PM (#1809746)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Lady Niniane

I got it! Thank you very much!

Let's see now - where's the virtual mead? Ah, there we go...

Okay, here 'tis - Cranberra honey flavour; hope you like it.


             ++++++
               * *
               | |
               | |
             /    \
            |      |
            |      |
            |      |
            --------


Lady Niniane


15 Aug 06 - 07:05 AM (#1810203)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,JimP

I'm really tempted to ask for the sheet music as well, just to pile on. To tell the truth, though, I really just want the chords. Since the Great and Mighty Sorcha's sheets apparently don't have them, I guess I'll just have to try and 'finger' them out on my own.


15 Aug 06 - 08:44 AM (#1810278)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

Standard E minor progression.....look in the Fakebook for either Road to Lisdoonvarna or Swallowtail Jig...just about the same chords.


15 Aug 06 - 09:23 AM (#1810302)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca

To make it easier, I posted the ABC from the thread mentioned above to theSession.org. Now whomever wants the sheet music, they can get it there. Kilkelly, Ireland.

Hope that helps


15 Aug 06 - 06:55 PM (#1810656)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

THANK YOU GEORGE!!!!!


15 Aug 06 - 09:00 PM (#1810743)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Ref

Uhhh...chords and words in RUS.


16 Aug 06 - 06:22 PM (#1811632)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca

You're welcome, Sorcha! (BTW, sorry to hear about your bow troubles). Ref, the words,/a> are HERE and the chords are HERE at the Mudcat. Don't have to locate them elsewhere.

For the newcomers, there is a box at the top right of the screen, which says, Lyric and Knowledge Search. It will allow a search of the information found in the Digital TRadition database of songs, AS WELL as the Mudcat Forum. Included are many tunes in MIDI format. In addition, if you look WAY UP, You can see a box that says Quick Links. Well, JUST BELOW that is a line that includes the word LINKS. if you click on that, you can locate information which many members of the Mudcat have found useful.


10 Sep 06 - 10:36 PM (#1831585)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Kilkelly Ireland
From: GUEST

HI, I found the lyrics at   www.kloosterman.be/topten-jones.php    I found it under Jim's name I think. Also sung by Jim brannigan. It sounds a little different from Paul Jones but it's there along with the words.
My Mother is a war bride from Inverness Scotland. She's never heard it before. At the age of 89 it hit home harder than I had expected. She cried and told me of the parralles in her life. She moved to NFLD Canada in 1945. Hope this helps you.

                                    Saxon_pg


09 Feb 07 - 11:10 AM (#1962295)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,craig

if someone has the sheet music for kilkelly ireland could they email it to me , that would be great

craigleonard2003@yahoo.com

Cheers


09 Feb 07 - 11:17 AM (#1962298)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: MMario

e-mailed craig the location.


20 Apr 07 - 07:21 AM (#2030868)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,paul mc cay

Hello there, just browsing through this page and i realised someone has the sheet music to kilkelly. I've loved the song for years now and im a bit tired playing the 4 chords. would it be possible for me to get a copy of the sheet music e-mailed to me please??

paulmccay84@hotmail.com

thanks a million !!


03 May 07 - 03:11 PM (#2042546)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: GUEST,Seth Hackett

I would also love to have music for this song; I can't find it anywhere else.

Thanks.

Seth Hackett
mchackett@gmail.com


03 May 07 - 08:45 PM (#2042794)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca

Sent e-mails to the two guys who can't click on my link above. I swear some people can't read English. 8-)


03 May 07 - 09:13 PM (#2042817)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Jeri

My personal feeling is that if people really want the music they can read the damned thread. If they ask a question, they can read the damned thread for the replies. I don't e-mail people who are too lazy to do these things. I don't e-mail people I don't know, PERIOD, unless I have some feeling that they're genuine. It's just too easy to wind up on spam directories, and people often get addresses by writing, "e-mail me at..."

If other people feel comfortable winding up in the address books of strangers who may be e-mail harvesters, who may send spam themselves, who may one day be infected by a data-harvester worm that collects your address, or who sends your e-mail address un-protected in the headers of messages to everyone in their address book, one or more of whom may one day be infected with a data-harvester worm, then it's their prerogative. It's not something I'm going to risk, though.


03 May 07 - 09:18 PM (#2042823)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca

Jeri, I don't worry about it, Jeri. I figure that some people are genuine. I did point out that they could have had the sheet music if they had read the messages in the thread.


04 May 07 - 05:24 PM (#2043484)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

Jeri, I've rather felt that way about this damn sheet music for a LONG time! Read the bloody thread!!! (There are days when I wish I'd never discovered it!--LOL)


04 May 07 - 08:07 PM (#2043556)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca

Got a reply from Seth Hackett saying he was looking for a "more complete" version. What does he mean by that?


04 May 07 - 08:09 PM (#2043558)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Sorcha

I haven't the FOGGIEST notion!!! We've got the melody, the verses, the chords....maybe he could just write his 'more complete' version???????


04 May 07 - 08:15 PM (#2043563)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Kilkelly Sheet Music
From: Jeri

He sounds like he wants an arrangment. I agree with Sorcha. Perhaps he can do some research or write his own. Most musicians I know want the bare bones so THEY can flesh it out.


21 Feb 08 - 05:06 PM (#2268934)
Subject: Chords Add: KILKELLY (Peter Jones)
From: GUEST,Reverand Dave

Wow! What a treat to find this thread. I did a Google search on Steve and Peter Jones after listening to their album just now that contains this song. I purchased it at the Bethesda Co-Op back in 1985 or so and it has always been one of my favorite albums. The stereo has been in storage for many years and it has been a real treat having it out again and listening to some of these rare gems. I wanted to see if they were still playing but couldn't find any current references to them or a website for them. Anybody know if they are still playing? I've been living in California for the last 20 years but do occasionally get back to the DC area and would love to hear them play again.

At any rate, they have all the lyrics to their songs as well as the chords on the liner notes to the album and this is what they have for this song. I've used the preview function to do my best to get the chords lined up with the lyrics.

Am                      C
Kilkelly, Ireland, Eighteen and Sixty,
      G                               Am
My Dear and loving son, John
                                                       C
Your good friend the schoolmaster Pat McNamara's
      G                                           Am
So good as to write these words down
         C                                     G
Your brothers have all gone to find work in England
       F                                 G
The house is so empty and sad
       Am                        C
The crop of potatoes is sorely infected
    G                            Am
A third to half of them bad
       C                                  G
And your sister Bridget and Patrick O'Donnell
       F                                  G
Are going to get married in June
         Am                        C
Your mother says not to work on the railroad
       G                                     Am
And be sure to come on home soon.

The rest of the verses repeat this pattern. The album says this song was "taken from letters written to our great-great-grandfather from his family in County Mayo".

If anyone knows if this album, or any other material by Steve and Peter, ever made it to CD, please let me know. My email address is david at vibrant-life.org