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BS: Last rites given.... (pope)

01 Apr 05 - 12:18 AM (#1448602)
Subject: BS: Last rites given....
From: Shanghaiceltic

I read that Pope John Paul II has been given his last rites. I am not a Catholic nor a christian but I feel somewhat saddened that a man who had such charisma is about to pass on. For him it will mean a release and probably a thankful one.

I was based in Scotland when he made his one and only visit there at the beginning of his papacy and I was struck by his strength of character and vitality.

Though I could not agree on many things he said in his life I still thought the man had that 'something' which set him apart.

The same is true of the Dalai Lama, a man who seems to exude an aura of power but also one of compassion.

Any other people you can think of who have that capability?


01 Apr 05 - 12:34 AM (#1448604)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST,hmmmmm

.. should be an interesting dilema
if the Pope slips into a vegative coma
for the next 10 or 20 years...


01 Apr 05 - 12:42 AM (#1448607)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: Ebbie

Interesting question. I agree further- sometimes I have met someone in my life who, for whatever reason (whether because of personality or politics or being related to someone they knew), did not like me or feel comfortable with me while I came away feeling that the person was an extraordinary human being (Not BECAUSE s/he didn't like me!). It made me aware that sometimes being liked is not important; it is more important that one sees the other person clearly.

I feel the same way about the pope. I too am not Catholic but I have met some priests whom I love and feel in the presence of something godly when I'm with them. And I know that when he dies there will be many bereft people in the world. (Although I have never understood: When so many religions teach that the afterlife is much better/grander/wiser than life here on earth, why do they regret anyone's death????)


01 Apr 05 - 12:47 AM (#1448610)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: mg

well, don't know what the official word is on purgatory, but Catholics of my age believe(d) in purgatory..so a great immediate hereafter does not await you..but rather a mini-hell, with a fairly long duration. mg


01 Apr 05 - 01:10 AM (#1448619)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: Stilly River Sage

We saw this pope a couple of times when he was visiting New York City in 1979. Stopped traffic all over Manhattan, and when he went down to the Battery to address a crowd in the park they literally closed the entire New York Harbor. I worked out at Ellis Island, and we could go up on the roof with binoculars and look over at the Battery to see his white figure and the crowds. And every time we went on the roof, a helicopter appeared from seemingly nowhere to keep an eye on us.

It will be a momentous event when it happens. Juxtaposed as it probably will be, between Terri Schiavo and Prince Rainier, it could be a really odd or unusual spring as far as world opinion and politics and the discussions that take place.

SRS


01 Apr 05 - 02:15 AM (#1448645)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: Liz the Squeak

Guest Hmmmm - it is unlikely that will occur as he remains fairly lucid and has refused a feeding tube.

Although I disagree with some of his teachings and certain life choices he has chosen to deny Catholics, I have a great deal of respect for him. He was selected to be Pontiff in a time where the early teachings of the Catholic church have very little relevance to the majority of the world, but he chose to uphold those teachings and stayed faithful to his beliefs. He travelled the world in the early years of his appointment, more than any other Pope had, He has encouraged a greater communication and understanding between Catholic and Protestant, he has remained firm in his faith and I have no doubt that St Peter is making a space for his representative when he finally comes home.

LTS


01 Apr 05 - 06:29 AM (#1448775)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: catspaw49

It's not that I want to dis the Pope as a man, but as part of "Religion"..................well.............

So Christ and Moses show up in New York City and take a ride around town on their way to St. Patrick's Cathedral. They see the South Bronx and cruise through Harlem and see people sleeping in boxes all over town. Arriving at the cathedral they are overwhelmed with the pageantry of it all as high mass is underway in their honor. The Pope has flown in especially for the occasion and Christ remarks to Moses that perhaps one of the rings the Pope is wearing might be worth enough to feed and clothe several families for years. So that's it then isn't it? What would Christ and Moses think?   If you profess to be a man of god and you own more than one suit of clothes while somebody in the rest of the world has none.....you're a shyster man....a con artist with captive audience."
An excerpt from the works of stand-up Philosopher Leonard A. Schneider......aka, Lenny Bruce (one version of a part of the bit he called "Religions, Inc.")

Spaw


01 Apr 05 - 06:37 AM (#1448783)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: George Papavgeris

Agree with the sentiments, spaw, yet -

...he was a newborn baby once, and his parents loved him, I expect.
And he was a toddler, probably fell off his bike and hurt himself.
He may even have fallen in love as a youngster.
As a young priest he very likely was full of ideals and a wish to change the world.
As an adult he did his best. I might not agree with all his decisions (I don't, as a matter of fact), but hey...
...he was a newborn baby once.

So this non-Catholic feels sad. For the baby.


01 Apr 05 - 06:45 AM (#1448794)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: Ron Davies

He tried his best. Stood for some good ideas, some not quite so good. But on average better than a lot of the "leaders" elsewhere.


01 Apr 05 - 07:20 AM (#1448837)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: catspaw49

Man, that's beautiful El-G! Very nicely done.

Spaw


01 Apr 05 - 07:25 AM (#1448845)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: katlaughing

He may be a great person, but I cannot mourn the loss of someone who imposes such teachings as he does on the *faithful.* (I know it's his job and he may have done it admirably.) In my opinion, there is no comparison between him and the Dalai Lama.

Thanks, Spaw, for the excellent analogy.

It will be interesting with the three very prominent cases along about the same time.

LtS, as of yesterday, he was on a feeding tube: "Pope John Paul II is being fed through a nasal tube in an effort to boost his caloric intake, according to a statement from the Vatican.

The 84-year-old pope needed better nutrition to regain his strength, Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls said."

I know public figures are fair game for news stories, but, again, I feel the details should be private and there must be more news in the world than five-minute updates on this on every news channel there is. Let the poor man have some dignity and peace without the constant angst-ridden reports from some pundit standing outside, parroting whatever press release has been handed them.

My apologies for any offence.

kat


01 Apr 05 - 07:35 AM (#1448857)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: kendall

Why do we mourn the death of an old Christian? If you believe in paradise, what's to mourn?


01 Apr 05 - 07:44 AM (#1448868)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: freda underhill

I understand what you mean, ebbie, about disagreeing with someone but admiring them.

some people just radiate charisma - yes, i strongly disagree with some of the pope's attitudes, but i know he tried very hard to be a pure representation of what he thought his faith was about. and he brought a lot of comfort and inspiration to a lot of people.

I have a friend who is very strong minded, sometimes totally off the wall. he is a very powerful person, very smart, does a lot of good. when i say powerful i mean his presence, his personality. he is quite powerless in his personal situation. he is someone i admire greatly, for that humour and warmth.


01 Apr 05 - 07:59 AM (#1448885)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: George Papavgeris

Kendall,

I think as a rule we mourn our own loss of something; in this case a leader, a good man, or just a human. Also, even if we believe that there is a better life after this one for the departed, we sometimes mourn the loss of opportunity for them in this life (death of a child or young person). So I don't see faith and mourning as mutually exclusive.


01 Apr 05 - 08:01 AM (#1448889)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: freda underhill

..and for the lack in our own lives, because we no longer have that person with us.


01 Apr 05 - 08:27 AM (#1448920)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: Rapparee

It's not "Extreme Unction" or "Last Rites" anymore. It's called something like the "Anointing of the Sick" and it's intended to impart spiritual strength to accept whatever comes and, hopefully, to help the person get well.

As for the "life choices he has chosen to deny Catholics" -- well, many, many, many Catholics around the world have chosen to deny his denials. The official positions of the Catholic Church and the actual practice of Catholics can be miles apart. As an example, consider the gap between the teaching of the Vatican on birth control and the actual practice.
(Yes, I'm quite aware that Humani Vitae was written two Popes back -- I'm just using this as an example.)

As a friend of mine, an Emeritus Professor at a Catholic college, once said, "We try not to let our Church interfer with our Religion."


01 Apr 05 - 08:30 AM (#1448925)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: Roger the Skiffler

I wonder if he made a living will?....
Any bets on Ian Paisley being the next Pope?


(Well it IS April 1st!)

RtS


01 Apr 05 - 08:44 AM (#1448944)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST

I don't respect the pope, any more than I respect Tony Blair. Both are Catholic political leaders. People "respect" the position of authority because that is what they are taught to do, so they "respect" the people that fill those positions by default, really. It has to do with the reptilean brain. Once it's programmed to think a certain way, that's it.

Hence, the pope is "respected" by millions of people who's lives he never touches. Go figure.


01 Apr 05 - 08:45 AM (#1448946)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: freda underhill

reptilian brain?


01 Apr 05 - 08:45 AM (#1448948)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST

If only the pope's death would result in an end to the royal papacy.


01 Apr 05 - 08:54 AM (#1448960)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: robomatic

If only posting as a nameless GUEST would result in something better than cheap comments from cowards


01 Apr 05 - 10:19 AM (#1449045)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST,Crystal

I'm not a christian but I have a lot of respect for the pope and I hope that if he is dying he is permitted to go with dignity.


01 Apr 05 - 10:52 AM (#1449064)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST,Father Dougle

i felt much sadder


when i was surprised to hear of the sudden death

of Father Ted


01 Apr 05 - 11:12 AM (#1449082)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST

Yah--I was really bummed when I heard about Father Ted too.

Apparently, one can still appoint bishops and archbishops, even though one has received last rites.

What a miracle.


01 Apr 05 - 11:23 AM (#1449090)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: Stilly River Sage

I agree with Garrison Keillor, who a couple of months back on A Prairie Home Companion said "the death of an old man is not a tragedy."


01 Apr 05 - 11:30 AM (#1449091)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST,Devout Whovian

anyway...


so whats all the fuss about..??



dont Popes regenerate into a new one..


.. a bit like Dr Who ?????



..isn't it just as exciting to see

who'll be the next one..


.Richard E. Grant ..??


01 Apr 05 - 12:11 PM (#1449137)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST,harpgirl

Godspeed to a beloved world spiritual leader. He was anti-war and that's good enough for me!


01 Apr 05 - 01:03 PM (#1449215)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: McGrath of Harlow

"Let the poor man have some dignity"

I can't imagine anyone showing much more dignity than John Paul has demonstrated in these last few appearances.

There seems to be a presumption sometimes that dignity is tied up with not being dependent on other people, and not being weak and vulnerable. I think that's about 180 degrees off the truth.

Obviously there's nothing sad about what's happening. Except in the older sense where "sad" means "serious", and is appropriate for an occasion when we are drawn to think about serious things, like our own mortality, and the time left to us, and what we are going to do with it.


01 Apr 05 - 01:58 PM (#1449272)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST

No, I don't agree with that interpretation either. If one lives a full life, with health and wealth like yer man in the Vatican had, the Christian view is one should REJOICE at the death, because it is a return to You Know Whoville.

What is it with people who are obsessed with seriousness in these cases? He is an old man. He lived better than most royalty on the planet lives. Why shouldn't we rejoice that he is being released from his earthly burdens and suffering?

There are some truly morbid folks both terrified of and obsessed with death.

Which I think is pretty whacked, unless it is happening to you and yours, IMO.

I consider all this "oh how sad" stuff to be a phony act.


01 Apr 05 - 02:01 PM (#1449275)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST,MMario

in the last half hour reuters announced the Pope's death - and the Vatican has denied it.


01 Apr 05 - 02:03 PM (#1449278)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: gnu

My mother told me yesterday that JP would pass at approximately 3PM AST (our local time) today. I just heard he has passed but no official announcement has been made. Spooky.


01 Apr 05 - 02:39 PM (#1449317)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: gnu

Vatican has denied reports of death (CNN).


01 Apr 05 - 02:54 PM (#1449335)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: catspaw49

Ya' know I always thought that Benny Hill would have made a good pope. He looked real good in the get-up. Come to think of it, so does Dom DeLuise and he's still alive!!!

Spaw


01 Apr 05 - 03:13 PM (#1449358)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: gnu

Celebration and mourning:

For all who pass, we celebrate their life. We also rejoice in their final peace. However, we are human. We cannot help but feel sad at OUR loss, at what WE will miss because of this departure.

As for JP, most Catholics know at least a little bit about him. He has been a great leader of our religion. Whether you agree with the religion or not, it's difficult to disagree with his leadership and his devotion to bring the religion forward. If he has not done so fast enough for you, you don't understand the religion.

PS - The ring thing... if anyone is hungry, anyone, they can get food, clothing and shelter at the Catholic Church... no questions asked, no strings attached.


01 Apr 05 - 03:14 PM (#1449360)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: gnu

Benny the first!! And last!! Hehehe.


01 Apr 05 - 03:33 PM (#1449380)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST

Actually, I disagree with your assessment of the pope's effectiveness, gnu.

I have a sister in law, who is a nun, and heads up the religion department at a major Catholic university. She didn't like the pope either. In fact, she and many American Catholic progressives like her, think this pope was TERRIBLE for Catholicism. He was extremely conservative, and did all he could to turn back the tide of Vatican II. As to being an anti-war pope, puhleez! He sure wasn't anti-war when the war was on the poor in Latin America, that's for sure!

He didn't even bat an eye when Archbishop Romero was assassinated.

So, don't go lecturing to the world that we "must" admit anything, just to agree with YOUR opinion of the pope.


01 Apr 05 - 03:53 PM (#1449398)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: gnu

I just talked to Mum. She said she knows he has passed but the announcement will not be made until all Cardinals have been informed personally and they begin to make their way to the Vatican. Rather matter-of-factly. I asked her what she was having for supper... fish of course, but no wine, as she's been having dizzy spells. Hmmmm.

Guest at 03:33 PM... don't put words in my mouth. By doing so, you only undermine your own post. Oh yeah... poof, you're a Fairy.


01 Apr 05 - 04:01 PM (#1449405)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: PoppaGator

A big part of the drama and concern over the death of a Pope is anticipation of the next Pope. For the first time in centuries, it's not a likely bet that it'll be an Italian Vatican insider. The surprise election of JP put an end to that monopoly.

It probably will be another conservative type, though. Progressive Catholicism as practiced in the US and Western Europe may well continue to be more and more marginalized, valued as a major source of income but ignored/suppressed when it comes to theology, scholarship, etc.

The Church is thriving in those parts of the world where it is most conservative, notably in the southern hemisphere and "third world." An African Pope is still probaly unlikley, but don't be surprised to see a Latin American get elected.


01 Apr 05 - 04:13 PM (#1449418)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: gnu

My vote, if I had one, would not be for a Card. I would vote for one of The Flying Fathers. Man, them guys can play hockey! That's what we need - a Pope that can skate and body check with the best of them.


01 Apr 05 - 04:18 PM (#1449426)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: Amergin

As pope he has known and assisted in the cover up of the pederast clergy. He is responsible for the pain and suffering the rapes have cost, if for no other reason than he is the Pope, the leader of his religion.


01 Apr 05 - 04:23 PM (#1449427)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: Once Famous

As a non-Christian, I admire the Pope and feel he was a true person of good.

Those that ridicule him and what he stands for, please remember, when it's your turn to go, good chance no one will give much of a damn and do any praying for you.


01 Apr 05 - 04:24 PM (#1449429)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST

Ah PoppaGator, this pope is Polish, not Italian.

gnu, does your mum work at the Vatican, seen you seem to be suggesting she has a direct line to what's going on there?

The passing of the torch is always rife with political intrigue.

Like how did pope, this very day, manage to appoint 17 bishops and one archbishop?

Kinda makes ya go hmmmmmmm....


01 Apr 05 - 04:31 PM (#1449437)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST

People damn well better not be praying for me when I go. I'll haunt them if they do.

Keep your damn religious "faith" and persuasions away from me.


01 Apr 05 - 04:33 PM (#1449440)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: gnu

Now your posts are putting words in the mouths of others. As for my mum, re-read my posts and don't try to put more words in my mouth. In case you are not the previous Fairy... poof, you're a Fairy.


01 Apr 05 - 04:34 PM (#1449442)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST,oirish

betting odds ??


Pope Bob Geldof ???


Pope Bono ????


Pope Graham Norton


01 Apr 05 - 05:03 PM (#1449470)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: gnu

Bono. Now, there's a Pope.


01 Apr 05 - 05:51 PM (#1449507)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: open mike

how is the decision for the next pope made?
election? appointed? sworn in by previous pope on his death bed/\?
is the choice democratic? theocratic? declard by God? what?
or is there a child somewhere who has been being groomed for the job?


01 Apr 05 - 05:54 PM (#1449510)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST

Elected by the cardinals.


01 Apr 05 - 05:54 PM (#1449511)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: gnu

Election.


01 Apr 05 - 05:57 PM (#1449514)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: gnu

I wonder... if Bono is elected Pope, what colour will the smoke be?


01 Apr 05 - 05:58 PM (#1449515)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: Dave Swan

I just looked this up. The succession of the Pope
D


01 Apr 05 - 06:08 PM (#1449532)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: SINSULL

From a radio news program:
People have been renting buildings with a view of the Vatican for over ten years now in anticipation of being on the roof to see the white smoke announcing the election of a new Pontiff.

And Spaw is worried about how many people could be fed and clothed on the price of his ring? Millions of dollars for a ten second view of a chimney. Unbelievable! Until you remember the millions spent on views of Times Square and the "ball" for the Millenium celebration, I guess.

I disagreed strongly with John Paul's conservative view of Catholicism but respect him and wish him an easy passing.


01 Apr 05 - 06:15 PM (#1449540)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: PoppaGator

GUEST, I know the Pope is Polish. His election as the first non-Italian in, like, forever, was a surprise and "broke the mold" for all future conclaves. Re-read what I wrote.

Are you correct in your assertion the "he" appointed a bunch of bishops and cardinals today?

I wouldn't be surprised, actually. The Pope has long been a figurehead as far as day-to-day operations are concerned, and the clique that runs the Vatican is notorious for how jealously they weild their considerable power. The possible scenario of a semi-comatose JP hanging on to life ~ and nominal authority ~ for weeks/months/years, a la Ms. Schiavo, would provide a field day (well, more than one day, certainly) for that conniving bunch.

Despite the power of the "invisible" rulers of the Vatican, the Pope himself has tremendous influence and is probably the one World Leader with the greatest personal power of all. JPII, for all his faults and shortcomings, seems to me to have been a basically positive force throughout his tenure.


01 Apr 05 - 06:36 PM (#1449560)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST

Vicar of Rome is the pope's stand-in for mass, and I'm not sure what all else.

Apparently not just the appointments. ABC is reporting he made the papal appointments, said mass, the stations of the cross, and blessed the Black Madonna's (the Polish icon at the Vatican) gold crown. Busy day for a guy who is supposedly on death's door.


01 Apr 05 - 07:20 PM (#1449593)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST,mg

all told it would take an hour. No problem for il papa. mg


01 Apr 05 - 08:29 PM (#1449660)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST

Where exactly was it you lost the plot there mg?

JP is the first celebrity pope. He packed 'em into stadiums, but couldn't get 'em into the pews. That's the true failure of this papal run. His conservate attack on Vatican II reforms, his cashing in on celebrity, his barnstorming to every country, pumping out the propaganda about the "transparent papacy" and all that crap didn't do jack to reverse the trend of the people bleeding from the church in the first world, and the superstitious traditionalists from the third world flocking to him as a "mystic" claiming to be on the side of the poor (in his Italian designer shoes that apparently rivalled the Imelda collection) to hitch their git along to.

Just because somebody has a title, doesn't mean they are deserving of our respect. That is just as true (and probably more so with religious political leaders) for a pope as it is for a president or prime minister.


02 Apr 05 - 12:15 AM (#1449759)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: mg

Oh guest...I am a little confused about what the reforms of the Vatican II were...true, we have to be nice to Protestants now, and sing ugly songs..but we still aren't supposed to get divorced even in bad situations, still not supposed to use birth control in tragic situations. Still have a culture of celibacy that gets twisted into child abuse situations. So I personally would use the word reform lightly. He's a good guy, a decent man, and that is good enough for me. I remain confused about such issues as the Virgin Birth, but common decency does go a long way. mg


02 Apr 05 - 12:45 AM (#1449769)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: Liz the Squeak

Poopagator, Mary G, that's just what I was trying to say. He may not have had the best ideas, he may have actioned ideas that I personally don't agree with, but he had the strength of character to remain faithful to his ideas and see them through.

(Personally, I suspect a lot of the more conservative stuff was on advice from the Vatican Mob.... he seemed to be much more liberal when he was first elected....)

LTS


02 Apr 05 - 08:50 AM (#1449947)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST

Happy to see you all are content to admire and respect world leaders stuck in the Middle Ages.


02 Apr 05 - 09:13 AM (#1449958)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: Greg F.

I don't see what the problem is- soon as he's unconscious and unable to communicate, stick a few tubes in him and keep him artificially alive. We can have this Pope around for a couple more decades, at least!

The official Catholic view as applied re: Terry Schiavo should be good enough for the Pope as well, no?


02 Apr 05 - 10:48 AM (#1450029)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given....
From: GUEST

Yah--they can keep propping him up in the window on Sundays, like they've been doing for months now too.


02 Apr 05 - 12:28 PM (#1450116)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: GUEST

Spot on MG, more of the same disgraceful pig-minded blather from the left crowd


02 Apr 05 - 01:09 PM (#1450142)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: GUEST

Why am I not surprised that Mary Garvey doesn't know what was reformed by Vatican II, yet still calls herself a Catholic?


02 Apr 05 - 01:14 PM (#1450144)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: GUEST

BTW, it's the 40th anniversary of Vatican II. But then Mary, since you don't pay much attention to your mother church, you probably didn't know that either.

You're one of the followers of the Mel Gibson Pre-Vatican II Holy Pontificating Church of the Hollywood Hills, perhaps?


02 Apr 05 - 01:22 PM (#1450148)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: Peace

On a bad day, Mary Garvey has more class than you do. Get fooked.


02 Apr 05 - 01:29 PM (#1450161)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: GUEST

You bet. And I anxiously await hearing her reasons why the Englightenment fooked up everything, and why she believes Gehenna is located in the parking lot of the beauty shop across from Woodside Hospice in Pinellas Park, Florida.


02 Apr 05 - 01:35 PM (#1450167)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: gnu

Then PM her. Oh yeah, you can't, because you don't exist. Poof. You're a Fairy. Puck off.


02 Apr 05 - 01:36 PM (#1450169)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: Peace

LOL

Knows yer Bard, dontcha.


02 Apr 05 - 01:42 PM (#1450174)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: GUEST

Naughty, naughty boys. All Good Catholics know that Saturdays are for the Joyful Mysteries. On your knees, and give me 10 decades, NOW!

2-3-4...


02 Apr 05 - 01:43 PM (#1450176)
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From: gnu

Knows some manners, anyway. A'course, I'm just a good ol' boy... NNWW. BTW, did you ever answer my question about the Cobb Lund Band? Ere ye a redneck or a roughneck? You'd better hire him on, cause he's gonna scrape up twenty dollars and pull the dragons from the town. Weird Al could have a field day if he would just read my lyrics.


02 Apr 05 - 01:45 PM (#1450179)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: Peace

When in doubt, read the directions.


02 Apr 05 - 01:53 PM (#1450189)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: GUEST

Q: So, is The Rock Peter, or Peter's faith?

A: Feed my sheep.


02 Apr 05 - 02:02 PM (#1450196)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: gnu

"All Good Catholics know that Saturdays are for the Joyful Mysteries." You mean, like, how can so many Catholic Irish play for ManU at one time? Especially that young Irishman Renaldo. I'd like to know where he gets those football magnets for his feet... there's a Joyful Mystery! And, speaking of mysteries, how the hell did Keane get that striking foot back? It's like he's been resurrected! What a game today.

Hey, it's my way. You have yours, I have mine. I'll bet JP would enjoy the highlights. It was an excellent game.


02 Apr 05 - 02:11 PM (#1450204)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: dianavan

He was true to himself. He lived his life they way he thought was right.

I hope somebody says that about me someday.


02 Apr 05 - 02:18 PM (#1450211)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: GUEST,Ophelia

gnu, I humbly thank you, well, well, well.


02 Apr 05 - 02:20 PM (#1450212)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: gnu

You already have, many times through your posts here at the Café, and, good on ya for it.


02 Apr 05 - 02:27 PM (#1450220)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: GUEST

I am but mad in craft.

                   --Yours, from the border of madness


02 Apr 05 - 02:58 PM (#1450247)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: gnu

You already have, many times through your posts here at the Café, and, good on ya for it... dianavan. (Just to be clear.)


02 Apr 05 - 02:59 PM (#1450248)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: gnu

Gone.


02 Apr 05 - 03:37 PM (#1450275)
Subject: RE: BS: Last rites given.... (pope)
From: mg

Lux perpeatua luceat eis. mg