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BS: Trans - Pennine Trail

03 Apr 05 - 05:33 PM (#1451134)
Subject: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail (UK)
From: s6k

Has anyone walked / cycled the Trans Pennine Trail?

In 3 months me and a couple of friends are planning to walk from Hull to Manchester and back again, along the trail.
we have 3 months to get our equipment together, and are also going on a couple of warm up walks to Hornsea along the old railway line soon

I was wondering if anyone had walked/cycled it and have any interesting stories or good things to see along the way?

cheers


03 Apr 05 - 07:21 PM (#1451196)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Ebbie

Interesting (although I have not traversed it). How long a trail is it?

There was a time when I planned to hike the Pacific Crest Trail from California into Canada. And of course the Appalachian Trail from Georgia into where? New York? is a popular longish walk too.


03 Apr 05 - 09:01 PM (#1451275)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Liz the Squeak

I've not walked it, nor anywhere near it, but there are some really good books by people who have.

I would recommend 'Pennine Walkies' by Mark Wallington as the funniest. ISBN 009 96141 1, published by Arrow paperback in 1997.

Good luck!

LTS


04 Apr 05 - 07:01 AM (#1451527)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: s6k

hi there, thanks

the official site for it is HERE

i think in total it is roughly 380 miles across, but we are just going to do hull - manchester which is about 110 miles, so 220 in total with the return journey.
Should take about 4 days each way, we are aiming to do 25 miles a day.


04 Apr 05 - 07:03 AM (#1451528)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Dave the Gnome

Love to join you on part of the way - Let us know your plans and I'm sure there are more than enough Mudcatters who will help spur you along! Me and Spot the dog will probably help on any bits within 50 miles of Manchester.

Cheers

Dave the Gnome


04 Apr 05 - 07:49 AM (#1451550)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Pied Piper

Good idea Dave, s6k let us know when and were and I'll join you for 10 mile or so.

PP


04 Apr 05 - 08:10 AM (#1451565)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Pied Piper

Map of the Trail and trails in our area.

PP


04 Apr 05 - 09:24 AM (#1451628)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: GUEST,The Beast of Farlington

Hey, when did S6K issue a GENERAL invitation? :-)


04 Apr 05 - 09:32 AM (#1451636)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Dave the Gnome

He didn't but he'd best know who his friends are when he crosses the border...

:D


04 Apr 05 - 10:11 AM (#1451666)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: HuwG

If necessary, I can give moral support etc on the Longendale / Hadfield / Broadbottom stretch.

For a modest gratuity, I won't serenade.


04 Apr 05 - 10:16 AM (#1451671)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Liz the Squeak

'S funny... I'd've thought that last named stretch would have been mine!

I think the dog aught to go all the way.... that'll teach the little beast not to whine for 'walkies'....

LTS


04 Apr 05 - 01:38 PM (#1451855)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: s6k

lol!

thanks for the replies... i will post more details when we finalize a date etc


05 Apr 05 - 03:57 AM (#1452360)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: GUEST,Paul Burke

"it is roughly 380 miles across"

That's what it says on the site, but to make it that, they must have taken a fractal path- the distance as the fly crows is about 160km, say 100 miles. The path must be like a mediaeval pilgrimage, two steps forward, one step back.

" but we are just going to do hull - manchester which is about 110 miles, so 220 in total with the return journey."

From what I know of the area between Manchester and Liverpool (which is quite a lot: I was brought up there) you won't be missing much.


05 Apr 05 - 03:58 AM (#1452361)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Les in Chorlton

Try to be near Chorlton on Thursday wher you will be welcome at Chorlton Folk Club:

Southwest Manchester Cricket Club
Ellesmere Road
off Wilbraham Road
Chorlton

About 2 miles from the trail!


05 Apr 05 - 08:48 AM (#1452520)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: GUEST

Why not bike it
If you knew where to borrow a machine like the Patriot with Sturmey Archer gears and stabilisers youd do it in no time


05 Apr 05 - 09:33 AM (#1452547)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: GUEST,padgett

goes round Barnsley from Penistone in to Greater Manchester etc and can go to Wakefield or Wombwell using paths around. Could take for ever ~ Folk clubs all around!!


05 Apr 05 - 10:30 AM (#1452593)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: s6k

we've now decided to do the entire trail, seeing as its probably a once or not-many-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

however we won't be doing the trail where the path veers off to leeds etc, we will be taking the straightest line through from hull to southport.
we are hoping to see some great things along the way, and if we are near Chorlton on the Thursday we will definately come to the folk club

this is all due in part to Ewan McGregor and Charley Boormans recent 'Long Way Round' trip which we have seen a bit too much of on dvd, not to mention ray mears programmes!


05 Apr 05 - 12:50 PM (#1452741)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Tannywheeler

Gosh -- you guys have all the fun.       Tw


06 Apr 05 - 06:59 AM (#1453443)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Noreen

To quote the site:
The length of the coast to coast route is approx 344km (213 miles) from Southport to Hornsea. The two north-south sections connecting Wakefield and Leeds, Sheffield and Chesterfield, and York take the total distance to approx 555 km (345 miles).


06 Apr 05 - 07:34 AM (#1453469)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Emma B

I can only echo Pauls remarks - there is some lovely countryside this side of the Pennines unfortunately the trail goes through the industrial part.......


06 Apr 05 - 08:27 AM (#1453496)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Dave the Gnome

As someone once commented whilst stood on the pennines. Look one way and it's full of hills and moors. Look the other and it's full of mills and h...

Not saying which way was which for fear of restarting the war of the roses:-)

Dave the (Lancastrian) Gnome


06 Apr 05 - 08:34 AM (#1453502)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: GUEST

Its Yorkshire that has the Hills and Moors


06 Apr 05 - 05:43 PM (#1453837)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: GUEST,John J

I cycled from Altrincham to York (for the York CTC Rally) a few years ago. It's a cracking route but I found that all of it was 'cycle-able' on a tourer so I had to use some sections of road. It is however eminently walkable.

I've walked, run, and cycled quite a lot on this (the better) side of the Pennines and have found it a great path.

You'll be OK on this side with Les & Dave the Gnome looking after you.....I'm not too sure about the Yorkshire side, although I believe they have electricity now.

Cheers,

John


06 Apr 05 - 05:49 PM (#1453842)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: greg stephens

I can see every point in walking out of Yorkshire into Lancashire. I'm not too clear what the point of walking back is.


06 Apr 05 - 06:51 PM (#1453911)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: s6k

yes! we have electricity!
also I'm sure that by the time we reach Manchester we won't see the point in walking back either... probably cos our legs will no longer work!!

I just found out a great little bit of info today too... the route goes straight through a town called Hadfield (you can see it on the map, before Manchester) this is the actual place that The League Of Gentlemen was filmed, so we will definately stop there and if we're lucky, buy a 'precious thing' from the local shop!!!!!!

I'm looking more and more forward to this journey by the day


06 Apr 05 - 09:09 PM (#1454024)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: HuwG

Unfortunately, the exterior shots of the "Local Shop" were actually filmed on the moors above Marsden, in West Yorkshire (nowhere near the trail).

However, there are plenty of other unspoiled scenes from the series around (although Pauline's "Restart Centre" is being converted into a night club).

I will be happy to stand you a drink in the "Mason's Arms" (where Creme Brulée played).


07 Apr 05 - 03:33 AM (#1454174)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: GUEST,John J

Are you intending to camp?

John


07 Apr 05 - 04:15 AM (#1454192)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: s6k

yep, we are taking tents and pitching along the trail.
we are getting the official maps sometime next week and then photocopy them so we can draw notes etc on.


08 Apr 05 - 12:30 PM (#1455454)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: GUEST,jOhn

Heloo, waht you going by feet for then?
why not go by bus, its quicker!


08 Apr 05 - 12:51 PM (#1455496)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: s6k

anyone can grab a vehicle and do it!

were gonna test ourselves to the limit with roughly 2 weeks in eachothers company. will we survive or will we kill eachother before the end?

im sensing a press release to be written!


09 Apr 05 - 12:24 PM (#1456262)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Les in Chorlton

You will be most welcome at Chorlton Folk Club but we have no campsites. Their is a YHA in Manchester in the Castlefield area near Deansgate.


11 Apr 05 - 06:25 PM (#1458411)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

oh


12 Apr 05 - 06:03 PM (#1459446)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: GUEST

Ah well then. Feresh.


13 Apr 05 - 07:20 AM (#1459831)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: s6k

last sunday we walked the hull-hornsea trail. it was nice. my legs were buggered by the end of it!
we will have to do it more


13 Apr 05 - 07:29 AM (#1459839)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Sttaw Legend

Well done that man - be on the look out for steam trains....

Is sweetpea joining you on your journey?


13 Apr 05 - 08:14 AM (#1459858)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Liz the Squeak

You may need to rethink the camping. There are large areas along the walk where camping is not allowed, particularly in those parts that cut through National Parks and other areas of outstanding natural beauty. Consequently, facilities are few and far between.

LTS


13 Apr 05 - 10:57 AM (#1460003)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: s6k

yeah we were thinking about that, we are going to check out whether there are enough places to stop etc. we will probably go by cycle one day 50 miles or so of the first part of the trail, to see whats about.

nay, sweetfia isn't joining us, but is welcome to


13 Apr 05 - 11:15 AM (#1460017)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: GUEST

If I remember rightly if it is actual National Park, as opposed to National Trust access land, you can camp anywhere. There used to be odd rules like the tent had to blend in but can't remember exactly. Worked fine for me in the Lakes until I had to pitch my green tent in a snowy field:-)

Worth checking out if things are still the same. Especialy considering the new countryside act, right to roam etc.

Cheers

DtG


13 Apr 05 - 04:32 PM (#1460330)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Liz the Squeak

Probably best to check... I was basing my info on the book I mentioned earlier, where the author says there is no camping on the moors. The book was written some time ago.

There are huts along the way though, where you can bunk down for the night, plenty of B&Bs and Youth Hostels but you'll need to phone ahead and book.

The Ramblers Association Forum gives the information that with landowner's permission, you can camp anywhere (posted March 2005), but I would really check that if I were you.

LTS


01 Jul 05 - 10:57 AM (#1513672)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Pied Piper

Got a date yet?

PP


01 Jul 05 - 11:15 AM (#1513684)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Paul Burke

If I remember rightly if it is actual National Park, as opposed to National Trust access land, you can camp anywhere.

I'm afraid this advice is almost on a par with "In England, it is customary to greet a lady by grasping her breasts with both hands and saying 'cor, what a bunch'"

Most of the national parks are farmed land or built up. In the areas that are moorland, wild camping is sometimes tolerated, but as likely as not you will get an irate landowner or gamekeeper waking you at 5am to complain. Some moorland areas are owned by the National Trust, and there's usually no one around to enforce their ownership rights.

The best advice is to get a list of campsites from the tourist board, and if you want to use b&b or camping barns, book ahead as they can be busy during the summer.


01 Jul 05 - 12:27 PM (#1513756)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Grab

Paul, I've never heard that put quite so well before! ;-)

National Trust unfortunately do have Land Rovers going around with wardens, not so much to keep people off as to travel between places. But if a warden happens to go past a tent, chances are you'll be out on your ear - especially in summer, when every drunken arsehole and his dog decides it'd be nice to camp on the moors by the road, strew the area with broken bottles and let the dog chase the sheep.

Some years back, about a week before Xmas, I camped next to the toilets at the bottom of Stanage Edge in the Peaks. A warden happened along and stopped to try and turf me out. Luckily I was on the loo at the time, so I just sat tight and said nothing while he wandered around calling "anyone here?" :-) Next morning he came along while I was packing. He said he didn't mind me doing it bcos I obviously knew what I was doing and wasn't leaving any trace I'd been there, but in summer he was forever kicking people off the hills.

Graham.


01 Jul 05 - 04:34 PM (#1513990)
Subject: RE: BS: Trans - Pennine Trail
From: Dave the Gnome

I'm afraid this advice is almost on a par with "In England, it is customary to greet a lady by grasping her breasts with both hands and saying 'cor, what a bunch'"

Lovely similie, Paul. I'll use it to take the piss out of someone who is trying to help as well if I may;-)

I am English, btw. Have been for the last 52 years. Have been a keen walker in and visitor to the northern parks for at least 35 of them. Have camped on top of many peaks in the peak district aside many lakes in the lake district and hidden up many a vale in the dales! I must say though I haven't done so for more than 20 years. Which is why I said Worth checking out if things are still the same. Especialy considering the new countryside act, right to roam etc. Which seems to have been missed from your cut and paste somehow. I cannot imagine it was ommitted just to get a cheap laugh so I guess it must have been technical difficulties:-P

Seriously though. Anyone realy know where the new right to roam legislation leaves us as far as camping, particularly in the wilder parts, goes? And even more seriously. Just when are you guys starting this walk?

Cheers

Dave the Gnome