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09 Apr 05 - 02:53 PM (#1456407) Subject: Andy Irvine - Portugese Guitar From: Les in Chorlton Does anyone know how Andy Irvine tunes that Portugese Guitar he plays? Does he use a pick or play finger style? |
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09 Apr 05 - 03:08 PM (#1456426) Subject: RE: Andy Irvine - Portuguese Guitar From: John MacKenzie Well it's a 12 string so I assume that he tunes it in one of the various different 12 string tunings. Even with conventional tuning it will sound different because of the shorter scale. Gitare de Fado Giok |
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09 Apr 05 - 03:33 PM (#1456450) Subject: RE: Andy Irvine - Portuguese Guitar From: Bob the Postman If the instrument in question is a guitarra he might be using the traditional fado tuning which is: bb, aa, ee, Bb, Aa, Dd (1st to 12th string). Information from guitarra maker's site |
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09 Apr 05 - 05:41 PM (#1456549) Subject: RE: Andy Irvine - Portuguese Guitar From: Les in Chorlton The reason I raise this question is having just seen some Fado in Portugal I was surprised by the finger picking technique, which looks and sounds so complex, and wondered if Andy used it or had one of his own, so to speak. |
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09 Apr 05 - 06:31 PM (#1456583) Subject: RE: Andy Irvine - Portuguese Guitar From: John MacKenzie The Portuguese use a finger pick that is a sort of extension of the finger nails, see the picture on this page Portuguese guitar Giok |
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09 Apr 05 - 06:37 PM (#1456586) Subject: RE: Andy Irvine - Portuguese Guitar From: Les in Chorlton True enough it's that finger and thumb double motion that seems a bit un - Irish. So what did Andy do that is so effective in Planxty? |
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09 Apr 05 - 06:56 PM (#1456603) Subject: RE: Andy Irvine - Portuguese Guitar From: John MacKenzie Ask Brendy he can do it to a T. G |
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14 Apr 05 - 12:28 PM (#1461168) Subject: RE: Andy Irvine - Portuguese Guitar From: Les in Chorlton Anyone? |
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14 Apr 05 - 01:44 PM (#1461254) Subject: RE: Andy Irvine - Portuguese Guitar From: RiGGy When he stayed at the Black Gate in Newcastle with Stefan & Liz Sobel in '71 when I was there, he tuned it regular except with the high E dropped to a D. Riggy |
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14 Apr 05 - 02:25 PM (#1461294) Subject: RE: Andy Irvine - Portuguese Guitar From: Leadfingers And of course Bill Caddick played his Bottle Neck on Waiting For The Lark !! |
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14 Apr 05 - 05:44 PM (#1461490) Subject: RE: Andy Irvine - Portuguese Guitar From: breezy I thought Andy used a plectrum most of the time , and flat picks. |
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14 Apr 05 - 05:51 PM (#1461499) Subject: RE: Andy Irvine - Portuguese Guitar From: GUEST,Allen He generaly plays mandolin in Planxty. |
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15 Apr 05 - 02:27 PM (#1462331) Subject: RE: Andy Irvine - Portuguese Guitar From: Zhenya Andy Irvine's website Scroll down a bit on the page this takes you to, to the section titled "My instruments" for some info. |
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15 Apr 05 - 02:32 PM (#1462340) Subject: RE: Andy Irvine - Portuguese Guitar From: Les in Chorlton thanks Zhenya, that looks traly interesting |
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22 Apr 05 - 04:12 AM (#1467723) Subject: RE: Andy Irvine - Portuguese Guitar From: Brendy Thanks Giok :-) Andy is contactable enough, and although his tunings are on his webpage, he wouldn't be averse to the odd e-mail showing interest in what he does. I was talking to him and Donal Lunny after the Planxty gig in Belfast in January; Andy comes over my neck of the woods regular enough. They're nice people, so don't hesitate to contact, if you need a bit of clarification. B. |
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14 May 05 - 09:08 AM (#1484882) Subject: RE: Andy Irvine - Portuguese Guitar From: GUEST,not all strings I don't think Andy used ALL 12 strings, I thing he strung it up using only 8 strings, as there weren't too many mandolas around in the 60's to choose from. I think he tuned it gdad, as he tuned his mandolin. Maybe he tuned it like his sobell mandola, as it was two frets longer he tuned tuned it two frets up from the mandolin and capoed alot ! He also used the waldzither, usually 9 strings but never strung up the 9th ! Pictures here and more info here portuguese mandola |