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BS: Acadamia...

21 Apr 05 - 03:25 PM (#1467247)
Subject: BS: Acadamia...
From: beardedbruce

http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/04/21/academic.hoax.ap/index.html


21 Apr 05 - 03:47 PM (#1467261)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: GUEST


21 Apr 05 - 03:48 PM (#1467262)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: Jim Dixon

Acadamia -- isn't that where those nuts come from?

Seriously, folks, I once fooled around with a gibberish-generator program. You could have it first input any text, say, a Shakespeare play, and it would produce Shakespearian-sounding gibberish. Input a software manual, and it would produce software-manual-like gibberish. The language didn't even have to be English. Trouble was, the gibberish it produced was often ungrammatical, a dead giveaway. Sounds like the students have produced something a bit more sophisticated.

That program, or some version of it, is probably out on the Internet somewhere, available to be downloaded. If I could only remember what it was called....


21 Apr 05 - 03:52 PM (#1467264)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: GUEST

It is hardly surprising they got the paper accepted, it was on a non reviewed basis, accepted on receipt of their fee...

Generate your own article here


21 Apr 05 - 03:59 PM (#1467268)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: beardedbruce

"A second bogus submission -- "The Influence of Probabilistic Methodologies on Networking" -- was rejected."


21 Apr 05 - 04:08 PM (#1467276)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: Amos

BB:

I think that part of the forest is called Academia, after a site called Academe outside of Athens, where olive trees stood in groves and Socrates held fort IIRC.

Acadamia is an emless nut from the tropics, like some people I know.

A


21 Apr 05 - 04:11 PM (#1467278)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: beardedbruce

Amos,

I stand corrected as to the spelling. At some point in the future, I will learn to type, and spell, so that I might be able to approach the perfection shown by so many others here on Mudcat.

<*bg*>


21 Apr 05 - 04:19 PM (#1467289)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: Amos

OR you could just snack on those emless nuts, for twice the satisfaction at half the cost!


A


21 Apr 05 - 05:54 PM (#1467352)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: PoppaGator

The "conference" was pretty obviously not part of genuine academia, i.e., not a real university's event but a for-profit (and for-tax-writeoff) promotion. Not unlike the brand-X "Who's Who" publications that will list you if you buy an overpriced copy or two or ten.

Condemning the academic world on the basis of this story is not more or less valid than condemning the business world. Actually, these bogus seminars are business ventures, while they're not genuine academic events.


21 Apr 05 - 05:58 PM (#1467355)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: Peace

"Seriously, folks, I once fooled around with a gibberish-generator program."

President Bush is using the program.


21 Apr 05 - 06:13 PM (#1467367)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: Rapparee

Are you anti-Em?


21 Apr 05 - 07:19 PM (#1467405)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: JohnInKansas

I noted the "strange" term, but immediately rememberd that it's MACadamia that refers to nuts.

(Sorry Amos.)

Not surprising considering the source. There are at least three separate books in current circulation about the tradition of "grand pranks" at MIT. Most of the great ones have been kept "local," and one might question whether this invasion of "the outside world" may reflect a degeneration in the "ethics" of modern students (although welding the trolley to the tracks in front of the main entrance did have "regional" impact for a while).

Time for a bit of head shaking and a "tsk, tsk" or two, perhaps.

John


21 Apr 05 - 08:19 PM (#1467470)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: Ebbie

And therefore 'emless', JiK. (Not that he needs defending!)


21 Apr 05 - 09:46 PM (#1467558)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

I thought macadamias were asHphalted roads.


21 Apr 05 - 11:03 PM (#1467611)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)

Hey Amos mate, Does this mean Mac Donalds is sellin cheap nuts to students on or off campus?


22 Apr 05 - 02:18 AM (#1467683)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: dianavan

It doesn't surprise me that, "Florida took the bait". Floridians are well known for swallowing just about anything.

Myself, I prefer Hawaiian Macadamias.


22 Apr 05 - 04:44 AM (#1467743)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: Mark Cohen

Actually, John, it is academia that refers to nuts...as any college graduate will tell you.

I agree, Dianavan...I used to grow them.

Here's my favorite academic hoax -- from my alma mater, a few years before I got there.

Aloha,
Mark


22 Apr 05 - 05:34 AM (#1467767)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: Fibula Mattock

Happened on this side of the pond too...
http://www-ai.cs.uni-dortmund.de/FUNSTUFF/JAI/videa.html


22 Apr 05 - 09:22 AM (#1467944)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: John Hardly

Homer: How is education supposed to make me feel smarter? Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain. Remember when I took that home winemaking course, and I forgot how to drive?


22 Apr 05 - 10:50 AM (#1467987)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: GUEST,Stilly River Sage

Ah, well, this thread was bound to happen. For those of us employed in academia, sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.

SRS


23 Apr 05 - 08:41 AM (#1468750)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: The Fooles Troupe

Macademias are originally Australian! And the best varieties still come from there.


23 Apr 05 - 04:41 PM (#1468957)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: Mark Cohen

Shhhhh! Don't tell anybody, Foolestroupe...

Actually, one of the many reasons we stopped harvesting our mac nuts from our orchard on the Big Island of Hawaii is that the price plummeted, thanks to competition from the Aussies. I guess they finally figured out what a good thing they had growing.

Aloha,
Mark


23 Apr 05 - 04:47 PM (#1468962)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: Peace

If I had to choose it would be like this:

Macadamias
Cashews
Pecans
Walnuts
Brazils

However, toasted seeds do it for me too. So do goobers.

I plain like food.


24 Apr 05 - 01:34 AM (#1469125)
Subject: RE: BS: Acadamia...
From: Stilly River Sage

Heaven on earth: macadamias coated in Ghirardelli chocolate. You can buy them in jars in places like Walgreens.

SRS