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21 Apr 05 - 10:01 PM (#1467568) Subject: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Peter T. I am seeking a list or recommendations of disaster/emergency films to give to a class. Of course, there are all those disastrous disaster films, which are fun, but are there any you would recommend as interesting? I am looking for natural disasters, technological disasters, etc. Recommendations, insights, etc. would be welcome. A short list of examples is a mix of the crummy and the interesting -- San Francisco Krakatoa: East of Java A Night to Remember Lifeboat The Birds The China Syndrome The Perfect Storm Apollo 13 Help!! (appropriate, yes?)! yours, Peter T. |
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21 Apr 05 - 10:07 PM (#1467575) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Rapparee How about that one about the soccer team whose plane crashed in the Andes? Can't remember the name offhand, tho. |
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21 Apr 05 - 11:09 PM (#1467614) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: wysiwyg Yeah, they'll eat that one ALIVE! ~S~ |
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21 Apr 05 - 11:12 PM (#1467616) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Peace War Games The Andromeda Strain |
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21 Apr 05 - 11:32 PM (#1467627) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: GUEST,Shanghaiceltic When the Wind Blows By Raymond Briggs (of the Snowman Fame)it is about a nuclear winter and even though it is animated it is quite disturbing. |
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21 Apr 05 - 11:37 PM (#1467631) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Clinton Hammond The Core |
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21 Apr 05 - 11:44 PM (#1467635) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Bobert "Rodan", "Teranculla" were purdy okay fir their day... Then "The Ants" with Jeff Goldbloom was purdy good, too... OKay msay it wa the "The Flies" but it was definately a bug.... Amd what about that fluck about the bees? Hey, ther's one comin' out about locusts... Ya know what I'm thinkin' here? Well, folks is more scared about bugs than anything else... Okay, maybe dead reptiles like dinosuars... But why no movies about turtles??? Like I can see a 300 foot tall box turtle crashin' thru the streets of New York with folks runnin' & screamin' thru the streets... Nevermind... Bobert |
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22 Apr 05 - 12:33 AM (#1467657) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: robomatic Check this out, courtesy of National Geographic: Seconds From Disaster |
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22 Apr 05 - 01:23 AM (#1467672) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: catspaw49 Okay......lessee here....................... ***"Songcatcher"----Trust me on this; it's a fuckin' disaster. ***"Independence Day"----When the aliens blow up the White House, visions of Dumbya dance through my head. ***"On the Beach"----You'll always cry every time you hear "Waltzing Matilda" after you see this one. ***"Plan Nine from Outer Space"----Ed Wood's great disater film where aliens invade in paperplate flying saucers on strings. There are aliens and zombies and scenes which change from daylight to night to daytime with every camera angle. Voted the worst movie of all time, this turkey is a disaster film on many levels! Even the star, Bela Lugosi, had only one scene in this flick.....he died bfore any more were shot. Gawd, I love Ed Wood. ***""Dr. Strangelove (Or How I Learned To Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb)"----The ultimate comedy/disaster film. A great cast with some really inspired characters. When Slim Pickens rides the bomb down like a bronco, that alone is worth the price of admission. I don't know Peter......There are all the classic Poseidon/Iferno/earthquake things of course..........I'll think about it. Spaw |
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22 Apr 05 - 01:42 AM (#1467675) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: John O'L "No Blade of Grass" - Might be hard to find (pun noted but unintended). Made early seventies I think. Fiction, but very imaginable, very disturbing. |
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22 Apr 05 - 06:18 AM (#1467783) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: gnu There is a real life "Towering Inferno" about a building in South America. My memory does not allow me to recall the details but I believe it was in Sao Paulo. Aluminum wiring in an air conditioning unit started a fire which.... Aha! That second cup of tea woke me slightly.... try contacting the engineering departments of universities. That's where I saw this film. But, be warned, some are gruesome (a few threw up watching the building fire film I mentioned). I saw many "forensic" engineering films while at UNB and I am sure the universities will help you out. Emergency movies... try the EMO's. They must have training films. |
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22 Apr 05 - 07:00 AM (#1467811) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Peter T. Thanks for the hints. I suppose there are those firefighting films (Blowback? something like that, Ron Howard did). Anyone know anything old? The only one I can think of before 1940 is San Francisco. There must have been others. I keep thinking there were hurricane films (anyone seen Wind?) yours, Peter T. |
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22 Apr 05 - 07:32 AM (#1467834) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: wysiwyg "Blowback" is BACKDRAFT, but I don't think it fits yor criteria. ~S~ |
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22 Apr 05 - 07:53 AM (#1467849) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Susu's Hubby Some other good ones are: 1. The Day After 2. Operation Looking Glass Any of the Airport 7? movies. Hubby |
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22 Apr 05 - 09:10 AM (#1467925) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Wesley S The Day After Tomorrow - about a modern day ice age. And the Tommy Lee Jones movie Volcano. You should be able to rent both of those. |
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22 Apr 05 - 09:16 AM (#1467935) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: bobad I recall "The Lord of the Flies" as making an impression at that age. |
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22 Apr 05 - 11:09 AM (#1467999) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: GUEST The Poseidon Adventure King Kong ( don't know if that counts.) Seconded shanghai's When the Wind Blows ( one of THE best films, and an excellent accessible medium for school kids too). |
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22 Apr 05 - 11:26 AM (#1468013) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Clinton Hammond Deep Impact (1998) Armageddon (1998) |
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22 Apr 05 - 01:50 PM (#1468142) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Metchosin Silent Running with Bruce Dern. |
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22 Apr 05 - 01:57 PM (#1468148) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Metchosin and this about says it all...Silent Running |
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22 Apr 05 - 01:59 PM (#1468151) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Peace "Backdraft" is joke. |
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22 Apr 05 - 02:52 PM (#1468188) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Peter T. What is Operation Looking Glass? yours, Peter T. |
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22 Apr 05 - 03:27 PM (#1468232) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: open mike kOYANISQATSI--http://www.koyaanisqatsi.org/ AND pOWASQATSI--http://www.koyaanisqatsi.org/films/film.php HAVE SOME INCREDIBLE IMAGES SOME OF WHICH ARE DISASTEROUS http://www.philipglass.com/koyaanisqatsi-video.html http://www.dunvagen.com |
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22 Apr 05 - 04:39 PM (#1468304) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: robomatic I repeat look into the National Geographic Series "Seconds From Disaster" See above for link. Mondo Cane - Beautiful film, I think it's black and white, almost wordless, great soundtrack. Fail Safe - The original 60's Movie with Henry Fonda or the live televised version from the late 90's with George Clooney. An error sends an american bomber out to vaporize Moscow. Not played for laughs like Strangelove, which is also a great film. War Games - Cute but probably too stupid to show to kids these days. There was an incredible 'modernized' version of "A Christmas Carol" showing a nuclear future written by Rod Serling and shown in the 60's. Seven Days in May - General Burt Lancaster plans to usurp a chickenshit American President. Will his best friend Kirk Douglas betray him or America? Only Ava Gardner knows. Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Original BBC Radio Workshop version: The end of the Planet Earth and the happy-go-lucky days which follow. Orwell's 1984 depicts a possible future that could be thought of as a disaster. Notion of anti-utopia or dystopia. Related to Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" or the seminal "We" by Zamyatin. The Day After Trinity - Very Talky. Intriguing for people like me who are fascinated with the development of The Bomb. BBC did a wonderful series called "Oppenheimer" starring Sam Waterston in one of his greatest performances. I don't know where to find it unfortunately. |
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22 Apr 05 - 06:23 PM (#1468399) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Chris Green 28 Days Later The Quiet Earth (New Zealand, 1985 I think) and for a slightly more bad taste take, Delicatessen. |
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22 Apr 05 - 07:12 PM (#1468436) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Jim Dixon Testament is a good one. Sort of the same subject matter as "The Day After," but more thoughtful, less sensational, no special effects. The The Internet Movie Database (IMDb) has a "plot keywords" feature. Bring up any movie (e.g. "Testament") and click "plot keywords" in the left column, and it will bring up a list of words that are pertinent to the plot (e.g. "apocalypse," "radiation sickness," "nuclear war," "disaster"). Then click on any of those words and it will bring up a list of movies with the same theme. Here is the results list for "disaster." |
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22 Apr 05 - 08:32 PM (#1468483) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: McGrath of Harlow A serious movie about disaster would need to have the kind of respect for the scale of human suffering that is so markedly missing from pretty well all those jolly movies. There've been a few movies about the kind of thing that humans do to each other that measure up to that I suppose - mostly about war or the Holocaust. But I can't remember ever seing anything about a natural disaster with those qualities. Just wait till the Tsunami movies start rolling out, Brad Pitt and so forth. |
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22 Apr 05 - 09:08 PM (#1468510) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Donuel NO BLADE OF GRASS - TREMENDOUS AND PROPHETIC especially with the stop gene experiments Monsanto has done on grains and "accidentally" released into the gene pool. I have a copy. The Day After is a better production however. "is anybody out there? anybody at all... The disaster movie of the moment is the Discovery channel docu-drama on the eruption of the Yellowstone caldera. |
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22 Apr 05 - 09:26 PM (#1468516) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Gorgeous Gary Bobert - Hmmm...turtles...the only things that come to mind are "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" (irradiated turtles and two disasters of a movie, especially the sequel), or any of the "Gamera" movie (nothing like a giant flying turtle propelled by flames shooting out of its butt and other orifices!). gnu - Also, any civil engineering department should have the famous "Galloping Gertie" footage from the Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse in the 40's. Robomatic - Yeah, "Wargames" you save for computer classes so they can laugh at Matthew Broderick's bookshelf-sized CPU and disk drive and the modem you had to set the telephone receiver in! 8-) But seriously, I have a soft spot for the Irwin Allen classics. Also maybe "Dante's Peak" (liked it slightly better than "Volcano"). Also nobody mentioned "Twister" yet. -- Gary |
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22 Apr 05 - 10:09 PM (#1468551) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Amergin Threads. Very disturbing film. |
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22 Apr 05 - 10:56 PM (#1468583) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Metchosin Touching the Void is an interesting film as well. |
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23 Apr 05 - 05:14 PM (#1468980) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: GUEST,Peter T. How about forest fire films? Are there any good ones? yours, Peter T. |
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23 Apr 05 - 05:22 PM (#1468983) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Peace There are training films that deal with screw-ups firefighters have made; however, the results are pretty tough to look at. Burns that remove the ears, facial features, fingers, etc, sure make Backdraft look like junk. The last one I saw had a gal in the US going into a fire situation with 1) her bunker jacket open 2) no gloves on 3) no belaclava She was entrapped by flame in a grass fire. Later, they estimated she was in 800 degrees for about ten seconds. She's had lots of plastic and reconstructive surgery. (That's why I hate movies that give kids the impression firefighters are mocho idiots. We're not. BUT, we do make mistakes. Even Ladder 49 shows firefighters fighting fire with no gloves on. If we even thought of doing that our scene commander would tear us a new anal sphincter--on the spot.) Anyway, your local fire department might be able to help you with films that are at once instructive and real. Bruce |
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23 Apr 05 - 05:27 PM (#1468986) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Peace PS The film I mentioned above was a re-enactment. If anyone had seen the situation she was in they would have saved her from getting burned. The fire company had placed their truck in the path of the flame. Dumb. She got out to check out the fire and it went in behind her. Next thing she knew she was burning. (It also demonstrated the necessity to work in pairs. That way ya see for 360 instead of 180.) BM |
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23 Apr 05 - 05:39 PM (#1468990) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: katlaughing "Always" starring Richard Dreyfuss was an excellent forest fire one, imo, plus romance to boot. "Fahrenheit 451" How about "Bambi?" Well, it had a forest fire and disasterous loss of a mother!**bg** This page at Turner Classic Movies will get your started on 13 pages whcih came up when I did a search using "disaster." (Scroll down a bit to see the links.) While I wait for surgery I've been watching scads of old movies, too many to remember the names unless I write them down. If I think of any specific ones, I'll holler. kat |
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24 Apr 05 - 12:35 PM (#1469327) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: GUEST,Chip2447 I first saw this in the US Navy wqy back in the dark ages and have seen it since on the history channel and the military channel. While I don't remember the actual name of the film it should be easy to locate. It's not fiction and is a pretty serious disaster flick. Its the Flight deck footage of the Forrestal flight deck fire during the Vietnam War when a Zuni rocket misfired and set in a action a chain of events that lead to a major conflaguration. Also just recently The Discovery/History channel (I forget which), showed a fictional account of the Yellowstone Supervolcano. I believe that the show was entitled...duh...Supervolcano. Chip2447 |
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25 Apr 05 - 04:53 AM (#1469923) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Blowzabella White Squall - about a sail training ship which gets into very serious trouble - is one I always find disturbing and scary |
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25 Apr 05 - 06:36 AM (#1469984) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: HuwG In February this year, Channel 4 (in the UK) showed a drama / documentary, titled "Krakatoa". Being written by script-writers, with reputable vulcanologists and geologists allowed only a few out-of-context quotes, and the drama laid on with a trowel, thereby diminishing rather than emphasising the scale of the disaster, it missed the point a little. However, the computer-generated effects were good, and the way the diaries and oral traditions of witnesses to the eruption were well portrayed. It had presumably been made some time ago, but was shown in the wake of the Boxing Day tsunami disaster, with comparisons of the earlier and recent disasters. |
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25 Apr 05 - 01:15 PM (#1470268) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Jack the Sailor A Night to Remember (Ship wreck) Titanic (romanitcized shipwreck) War of the Worlds (invasion of Earth) That mini series about nuclear war in Lawrence Kansas, Key Largo (Hurricane) |
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25 Apr 05 - 06:47 PM (#1470572) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: SINSULL "Hurricane" is an early (30/40s) film that was remade recently and not nearly as well. "The Day The Earth Caught Fire" is an early nuclear disaster with a twist. The Russians and Americans both set off nuclear tests at the same time and throw the earth out of orbit. Great special effects and look for a pimply Nick Adams (or is it Steve MeQueen?). Spaw is right. "On The Beach" is a classic and would probably raise a lot of interesting discussion. Mass suicide is presented as the only option in the end. How about just showing footage of Sept 11th.? A documentary was done showing the first plane hitting a tower - it was filmed accidentally during some sort of fire department training film. |
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25 Apr 05 - 10:48 PM (#1470757) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: open mike it seems there might have been a movie made of the fire in the Oakland Hills in what was it? 1999? i recently read a book about a forest fire...called firestorm by Nevada Barr. i do not think it has been made into a movie. Also there was the book Young Men and Fire about a fire over 50 years ago where 13-15 fire fighters were burned over..Mann Gulch, Montana. I do not know if they have made a movie of it, but it was written my Norman Maclean, the fellow who wrote A river runs thru it. And James Keelahagn has an awesome song Cold Missouri waters. Norman's son John Maclean has researched the Storm King fire in Colorado where a similar number of fire fighters were killed a few years ago. There was a documentary on t.v. not too long ago..i think it was called fire on the mountain about Storm King and several other disasterous fires -- including the Chicago one supposedly started by mrs. murphy's cow kicking over a lantern in the barn and another huge one in Wisconsin at a lumber mill http://www.historychannel.com/ available in vhs annd dvd http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=43572 |
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26 Apr 05 - 10:36 AM (#1471216) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: HuwG I believe that the Mann Gulch, Montana incident was made into a film called Red Skies of Montana, also released under the title "Smoke Jumpers". |
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05 Jun 06 - 07:02 PM (#1753607) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: GUEST Hear they are making a 9/11 movie ? |
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05 Jun 06 - 07:19 PM (#1753622) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Clinton Hammond Already made.... Old news..... |
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05 Jun 06 - 08:22 PM (#1753672) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Alice An Inconvenient Truth http://www.climatecrisis.net/ |
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06 Jun 06 - 05:54 PM (#1754481) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Wesley S Yes - Oliver Stone made a 9/11 movie called "World Trade Center" Check here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0469641/ |
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06 Jun 06 - 07:00 PM (#1754524) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Uncle_DaveO I recollect TWO movies called The River. One, which isn't what you want, is a great movie, in India, having a lot to do with the Ganges. But that's not it. The second had the name The River also, I believe. It was about a young family (from Iowa?) dealing with a killer flood which engulfed their farm. A fine film. I just could be wrong about the name, but it was something like that. Dave Oesterreich |
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06 Jun 06 - 09:25 PM (#1754615) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: JohnInKansas More subtle disasters? The Manchurian Candidate Bad Day at Black Rock The first is sort of a "disaster narrowly averted." The second is one where you learn, slowly and subtly(?), that a disaster (on a small scale) happened - and nobody really noticed. John |
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07 Jun 06 - 10:47 AM (#1754983) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: Uncle_DaveO Has anyone mentioned A Perfect Storm ??? Dave Oesterreich |
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07 Jun 06 - 12:32 PM (#1755054) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: JohnInKansas DaveO - A Perfect Storm may have appeared after the original request here was satisfied (or abandoned), which may explain why it wasn't mentioned. (I don't think I saw it above, but the release date of the movie was fairly recent?). Note that the last half-dozen additions are the only ones less than about a year old. Earlier responses indicate some enthusiasm for the topic, but I suspect that some meaningful re-direction (i.e. thread drift to a currently interesting purpose) is needed to bring the thread back to life, should someone want that to occur. John |
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08 Jun 06 - 11:34 AM (#1755598) Subject: RE: BS: Disaster/Emergency Movies (serious) From: GUEST,bbc at work Peter, Has anyone mentioned "Grave of the Fireflies?" It is one of the most devastating movies I've ever seen. Check Amazon for reviews. best, bbc |